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Kilkee 2014

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  • #152
    peter kern
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    Are you supposed to cover your nipples with this tattoos ...


  • #153
    damo80
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    peter kern wrote: »
    Are you supposed to cover your nipples with this tattoos ...

    No peter that's what the stickers are for :)


  • #154
    promethius
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    MOD SNIP

    There's the results this guy always lightning quick with them


  • #155
    tunney
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    promethius wrote: »
    MOD SNIP

    There's the results this guy always lightning quick with them

    And fantastic for altering them to fit an agenda.


  • #156
    promethius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    tunney wrote: »
    And fantastic for altering them to fit an agenda.
    Can you explain?


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  • #157
    littlemsfickle
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    littlemsfickle wrote: »
    On crutches, so unlikely to make much of an impression :rolleyes:. Eimear Fitzmaurice will def be one to watch in the future - saw her in one of the trim castle duathlons and she was very impressive. What about Joyce Wolfe? I think Katie Cooke, Rachel Glendon, Joyce Wolfe for the podium. Don't know what order.

    Ah well, two outta three ain't bad :cool:


  • #158
    Green&Red
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    Results


  • #159
    tegerman
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    Congrats to Carolyn Hayes, over half an hour off her time last year.

    Thats some serious progress.


  • #160
    RacoonQueen
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    10-15 min improvement for me. My run was horrendous and slower though :(


  • #161
    Fazz
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    Great race as always, fantastic day and course epic as ever.

    Limerick Tri Club did a lot right and this race is certainly worth of national champs.

    Draft Marshals way too lenient was the only negative imo.


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  • #162
    mossym
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    mossym wrote: »
    according to his twitter feed thornton's achilles is shot. may or may not be the truth but if it is would hurt his chances. between him and aaron if it's not i reckon

    ladies, the go tri crew will be out to make a big hit on a local race, anna crooks and carolyn hayes to be there or there abouts

    i've got the lotto numbers too if anyone is interested :)

    great race but agree with Fazz's comments above. unfair to those who try to race legally to see those who intentionally and blatantly break the rules and get away with it


  • #163
    bryangiggsy
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    Cracking race, Cracking weather, Cracking weekend...

    Was talking to one of the TI guys afterwards. Next year they going to age group wave starts...like Athy and Athlone.....because of the numbers and the narrow country roads....Makes sense imo.


  • #164
    tunney
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    bryangiggsy wrote: »
    Cracking race, Cracking weather, Cracking weekend...

    Was talking to one of the TI guys afterwards. Next year they going to age group wave starts...like Athy and Athlone.....because of the numbers and the narrow country roads....Makes sense imo.

    Really? And how does that work in Athy and Athlone?

    The real problem is at this stage everyone knows the rules are not enforced, that the clubs don't want their race to be the one that the mass DQs happen at and the the marshals and TI do not have the testicular fortitude to act.


  • #165
    bryangiggsy
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    tunney wrote: »
    Really? And how does that work in Athy and Athlone?

    The real problem is at this stage everyone knows the rules are not enforced, that the clubs don't want their race to be the one that the mass DQs happen at and the the marshals and TI do not have the testicular fortitude to act.


    It works because you dont have the fastest athletes going in the first wave. Abilities are spread out over all the waves therefore you do not see the level of drafting at these races that you would see in others. It is because the rules that are not enforced at the other races that these races work better in that aspect.
    I saw mbikes breaking up packs on Saturday.. penalties should have been handed out straight away.. but i also saw situations were you had 20 to 30 bikes strung out over 300 to 400 m...how do you police that? too many bikes on a narrow course.


  • #166
    EC1000
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    tunney wrote: »
    The real problem is at this stage everyone knows the rules are not enforced, that the clubs don't want their race to be the one that the mass DQs happen at and the the marshals and TI do not have the testicular fortitude to act.

    I partly agree. The clubs don't (and shouldn't have) any say in what penalties are enforced. From my own involvement (having been on both sides of the fence), penalties go from the TOs to the penalty board without interference from RDs. In any event, until mass disqualifications occur, things will not change.

    As an aside, I witnessed the most blatant episode of cheating so far in Kilkee where I was overtaken by a bike that had another sucking his wheel. I sat behind them for about 5 minutes and each time we would meet a motorbike official (and there were lots to be fair), the wheel sucker would pull out as if he was about to overtake. As soon as the bike was gone he tucked back in and continued drafting. After 3 such incidents (he knew the rules and knew exactly what he was doing), I pulled up alongside and f'd him out of it. He was done about 2 mins later by a motorbike official which photographed him and carded him. I have his name and number but have not seen any way to check if he was penalised or not - the penalties don't seem to be on the results. Is there any way to check?


  • #167
    MD1983
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    tunney wrote: »
    Really? And how does that work in Athy and Athlone?
    .

    i think it works quite well in Athy, not as many packs thats for sure, better spread of abilities makes it less likely for packs to form. a person who is determined and sets out to cheat will probably find a way in most races though


  • #168
    mossym
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    EC1000 wrote: »
    As an aside, I witnessed the most blatant episode of cheating so far in Kilkee where I was overtaken by a bike that had another sucking his wheel. I sat behind them for about 5 minutes and each time we would meet a motorbike official (and there were lots to be fair), the wheel sucker would pull out as if he was about to overtake. As soon as the bike was gone he tucked back in and continued drafting. After 3 such incidents (he knew the rules and knew exactly what he was doing), I pulled up alongside and f'd him out of it. He was done about 2 mins later by a motorbike official which photographed him and carded him. I have his name and number but have not seen any way to check if he was penalised or not - the penalties don't seem to be on the results. Is there any way to check?

    I was sitting off the back of one group on the way out on Saturday, group of about 8 to 10 in a peleton. Had been travelling faster than them, came up on them, but with no way to pass. Held back 10m looking for an opportunity, was behind them a few minutes. Motorbike official comes up beside me, with a passenger on the back. Passenger nods at me as if to say you’re okay, as they catch the group in front the passenger pulls up a camera and quite obviously starts photographing the numbers, as they passed the riders they said something to the riders and they started to break up. Pretty sure they photographed most of the numbers, but not a single card.

    As soon as it broke up their speed dropped off completely, and I started sailing past them. Told a few of them as I went past I was delighted they were done for drafting. Unanimous reply was to tell me to “f^&k off ya c&^t”

    Expected that, but why would these guys ever stop if nothing is done? Even if they get retrospective penalties now they have their original time, they’ll say nothing and ignore the penalties.


    Did anyone see the 40 second news report on the TI site? I only saw a quick glimpse, but even that seemed to show lots of cyclists in a very short space, if their video promotions are showing it then why wouldn’t people think it’s acceptable?


  • #169
    EC1000
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    Think the shot that I saw online was of the first hill just outside town. With literally hundreds joining the route in the space of a couple of mins, I think it it inevitable that the first hill was bunched up. No excuse for such large groups after that climb though...


  • #170
    tunney
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    bryangiggsy wrote: »
    It works because you dont have the fastest athletes going in the first wave. Abilities are spread out over all the waves therefore you do not see the level of drafting at these races that you would see in others. It is because the rules that are not enforced at the other races that these races work better in that aspect.
    I saw mbikes breaking up packs on Saturday.. penalties should have been handed out straight away.. but i also saw situations were you had 20 to 30 bikes strung out over 300 to 400 m...how do you police that? too many bikes on a narrow course.

    Empirical evidence suggests that it does not work in Athy and Athlone was my point.

    Kilkee 2004, my first kilkee, had 240 people in the race. Wave one on Saturday had another 120.........

    greed-is-good.png


  • #171
    tunney
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    EC1000 wrote: »
    I partly agree. The clubs don't (and shouldn't have) any say in what penalties are enforced. From my own involvement (having been on both sides of the fence), penalties go from the TOs to the penalty board without interference from RDs.


    Thats naive, I have heard of TOs that have had their influence by bullying by RDs.


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  • #172
    EC1000
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    tunney wrote: »
    Thats naive, I have heard of TOs that have had their influence by bullying by RDs.

    Name and shame. The naivety there is from the RD who thinks that they are providing a better event by ignoring cheating...... that's akin to a football manager convincing a referee not to send off his player for the good of the game..... if TOs are bending to RD demands then a better quality of TO is needed....


  • #173
    Huff n Puff
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    bryangiggsy wrote: »
    Was talking to one of the TI guys afterwards. Next year they going to age group wave starts...like Athy and Athlone.....because of the numbers and the narrow country roads....Makes sense imo.

    They better not. Age group wave start races are awful. You have listed two races that I would never do. No need to drag down Ireland's best race too. Plenty of drafting goes on at those other two races anyway.

    Lining up at the swim start with the rest of Ireland's best is what its all about. 30 years of this race being brilliant, about to be spoiled by some eejits down the back of the field drafting for 100th place. Highly annoying.

    Let the best 50 men and women off together in Kilkee to battle it out each year for the National Championships and the rest of ye can do whatever the hell ye want!!


  • #174
    Huff n Puff
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Huff n Puff


    On a more positive note - well done to the Limerick Club for organising another great event. All this talk of drafting is taking away from what was a great experience once again.

    My predictions here in the men's race were spectacularly wrong! Delighted for Aaron though. Carolyn came up trumps for me in the women's race. Think she will be heading for ITU if she stays focused.

    As for my own race....shocking. Any day that Peter Kern hammers you is a bad day!! Only joking of course - good race out of you Peter. Well done everyone else too.

    Don't get overly carried away with the fast times though. That was as easy a Kilkee as I can remember.


  • #175
    bryangiggsy
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    Huff n Puff wrote: »
    They better not. Age group wave start races are awful. You have listed two races that I would never do. No need to drag down Ireland's best race too. Plenty of drafting goes on at those other two races anyway.

    Lining up at the swim start with the rest of Ireland's best is what its all about. 30 years of this race being brilliant, about to be spoiled by some eejits down the back of the field drafting for 100th place. Highly annoying.

    Let the best 50 men and women off together in Kilkee to battle it out each year for the National Championships and the rest of ye can do whatever the hell ye want!!

    That was the 2nd point he made. Top males females in wave 1..then the rest via age group. I too am for the whole top end race up front. Its great that you can track the race on the run while completing yourself.


  • #176
    tunney
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    bryangiggsy wrote: »
    That was the 2nd point he made. Top males females in wave 1..then the rest via age group. I too am for the whole top end race up front. Its great that you can track the race on the run while completing yourself.

    Eventually the number of people in a race will have to be brought down to a realistic number, or made draft legal.

    Also NC should have a qualification element.


  • #177
    kchsligo
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    It was a great event no doubt but yet today's national newspapers seem to have ignored it almost completely.

    The only mention of it in the three papers I've seen this morning is a very brief paragraph in a section on lifestyle and festivals. Something majorly wrong here when an event with 1000 participants is not worthy of mention...


  • #178
    tunney
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    kchsligo wrote: »
    It was a great event no doubt but yet today's national newspapers seem to have ignored it almost completely.

    The only mention of it in the three papers I've seen this morning is a very brief paragraph in a section on lifestyle and festivals. Something majorly wrong here when an event with 1000 participants is not worthy of mention...

    participant
    noun
    a person who takes part in something.

    competitor
    noun
    a person who takes part in a sporting contest.


  • #179
    bryangiggsy
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    Huff n Puff wrote: »
    On a more positive note - well done to the Limerick Club for organising another great event. All this talk of drafting is taking away from what was a great experience once again.

    My predictions here in the men's race were spectacularly wrong! Delighted for Aaron though. Carolyn came up trumps for me in the women's race. Think she will be heading for ITU if she stays focused.

    As for my own race....shocking. Any day that Peter Kern hammers you is a bad day!! Only joking of course - good race out of you Peter. Well done everyone else too.

    Don't get overly carried away with the fast times though. That was as easy a Kilkee as I can remember.

    The depth of the field was savage imo. For the 100th athlete to come in at 2.20 shows you how strong it was.


  • #180
    bryangiggsy
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    bryangiggsy wrote: »
    The depth of the field was savage imo. For the 100th athlete to come in at 2.20 shows you how strong it was.

    Swim was short by about 100m
    Bike was 3-4 mins faster with the north easterly wind

    Still 100 people under 2.25 for Kilkee.....looking at previos years means stacked field imo


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  • #181
    kchsligo
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    tunney wrote: »
    participant
    noun
    a person who takes part in something.

    competitor
    noun
    a person who takes part in a sporting contest.

    Well done on looking up words but I'm sure you'd have some comment to make if I had used the word competitor!!!


  • #182
    tunney
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    kchsligo wrote: »
    Well done on looking up words but I'm sure you'd have some comment to make if I had used the word competitor!!!

    No not really.

    Its a niche sport, no one cares.


  • #183
    kchsligo
    Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭kchsligo


    tunney wrote: »
    Its a niche sport, no one cares.

    Yeah true about the niche but there were sections on other niche sports. Just expected to see something with it being the National Championship and everything.


  • #184
    bryangiggsy
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    Regarding the swim....the course looked the exact same as last year which they had pulled in because of the rough seas....why not have buoys 2 and 3 fifty metres further out? or buoy no 2. 100 metres further out if 3 was too close to the rocks?
    Has to be said..what a cracking swim it was though with the water being so calm and clear!!!


  • #185
    EC1000
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    bryangiggsy wrote: »
    Regarding the swim....the course looked the exact same as last year which they had pulled in because of the rough seas....why not have buoys 2 and 3 fifty metres further out? or buoy no 2. 100 metres further out if 3 was too close to the rocks?
    Has to be said..what a cracking swim it was though with the water being so calm and clear!!!

    What was the purpose of the first and last buoys? If you followed them you would have been sent off course......


  • #186
    peter kern
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    As somebday said after the swim session this morning it was a fantastically well organised race by the limerik tri club and is still the gold standard of Irish races.

    I got my money worth by getting a 30 min massage after the race
    and after 8 slices of that cake I can confirm that cake was good
    and so was the food at the prize giving ( i tripple tested that one too)

    of course something gives if 1100 people race with 8 draft marshalls.
    if they cant really officiate a soccer game where 22 players have 3 referees.

    At the same time the male nat champ is a worthy winner wining the race from the start is just class.


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  • #187
    tunney
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    kchsligo wrote: »
    Yeah true about the niche but there were sections on other niche sports. Just expected to see something with it being the National Championship and everything.

    Ah bless.
    Bet you think the national series is great too.


  • #188
    Podge83
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    National Sprint Championship in Camlough made the RTE News - Probably only because very little else happen that day. Its like Tunney says - no-one cares!! (except for those taking part).

    The only Triathlon the general public care about is the one every 4 years in the Olympics. And then only if someone has a chance of a medal.

    The Farmer leading his herd of cattle across the road during the Cycle stopping several certainly didn't care!! The Cattle upset my rhythm just as I was settling in behind a big lad giving me great shelter.


  • #189
    bryangiggsy
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    EC1000 wrote: »
    What was the purpose of the first and last buoys? If you followed them you would have been sent off course......


    You only have to keep those buoys on your left....you dont have to go to them :)...idea being they want to keep people away from the rocks on the right and on way back in the reeds on the right...the shortest way around is staying as right as you can heading for buoy no 2 and the beach on return leg


  • #190
    gickna1
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    Was a cracking day and a cracking race, couldn't believe the amount of drafting though, passed at least 3 trains, only seen one lad get pulled aside for it. Plenty of Marshalls but not enough done, especially in a National Championship.


  • #191
    EC1000
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    bryangiggsy wrote: »
    You only have to keep those buoys on your left....you dont have to go to them :)...idea being they want to keep people away from the rocks on the right and on way back in the reeds on the right...the shortest way around is staying as right as you can heading for buoy no 2 and the beach on return leg

    Yes, I got all that but surely if that was the issue they would have set them up so that you kept the 1st and last buoys on your right and the others on your left. This way you would have avoided the hazards. As you say the idea is to keep you away from the rocks on the right. How does keeping a buoy on your LEFT help this in any way? Not a problem for me anyway... I was happy enough the get tangled in the reeds on the way back and shorten the swim a bit :) Cracking course


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  • #192
    mossym
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    EC1000 wrote: »
    I was happy enough the get tangled in the reeds on the way back and shorten the swim a bit :) Cracking course

    Yeah i took the same agricultural short cut as well. didn't mind, reminded me of my scuba diving days in the kelp forests in california. long as you didn't panic and stayed high in the water you slid right over the top:)


  • #193
    HI2002
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    First, major thanks to Limerick Tri for a FANTASTIC event. This club really puts their back into this very fine event. This was my 11th HOTW. I thought the drafting in 2013 was bad, but alas, the drafting on Saturday was abysmal. large groups, small groups, pairs, making no effort to drop back. I had a group pass me ... it was like bees around the queen .. one female in the middle completely surrounded by guys .. it looked like a club cycle. This was well past the turn around point, i'd say it was the faster of the 2nd wave catching up with the rear of the 1st wave .. one of these athletes actually gave me the finger when I shouted at them .. the rules apply to all not some .. I had to drop back to get away from the group .. it make racing unfair, and very unpleasant. I did get some numbers. There was one (1) motorbike marshall on the road back into Kilkee - regretfully .. it is not enough - it has to be policed all the time. These people don't care that they are cheating and spoiling our sport, which makes me believe they haven't been doing it very long and are not especially good at it either .. (they know the rules, they just don't care). Go away, take up another sport that allows you to draft. I said this last year and I'll say again, this should not be up to just the marshalls - its up to us, the athletes to stop this happening. The other little beaut is overtaking on double white lines. On the way out, a group of three in staggered formatting passed me. The 3rd person in this lovely formation was out on the far side of the road .. well over the DOUBLE WHITE CONTINUOUS LINE .. again, I got his number and shouted out at him - and got given a look - as he stayed out on the far side of the road drafting away .. the number, and I've subsequently found out that this man has been doing triathlon for quite a long time - therefore well knows the rules, not to mention dangerous cycling. And finally, at the last junction sharp turn to the right before heading back to Kilkee - in front of several road marshalls, overtaking on the inside .. just dangerous cycling. I don't know the answer other than to reduce the numbers within the events .. or as someone else here has suggested - start mass DQ's .. that would make a difference. It is not fair that the rules only apply to some of us who care about our sport. Get these people out of our sport!


  • #194
    Wackoy2k
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    A great weekend overall in Kilkee this year, but have to admit that the drafting was ridiculous.

    I had a group of about 10-12 riders pass me out only to have to pass them all out again a few minutes later when they came upon a hill. Majority had the same club jersey on.

    But aside from the drafting. I purchased a new wetsuit a month ago (Rocket Science "Rocket" with the Carbon Drive fins on the Forearm).

    I was told that the suit was banned from the race and we would be disqualified if I wore it even with the little fins cut off.

    I went off and bought another wetsuit (Rocket Science Elite - Wife was not impressed seeing another wetsuit arrive).

    But on the day I counted 7 in Wave 1 and even more in Wave 2.

    My question is: Are they banned or not and how did so many people get away with using them if they are banned?


  • #195
    catweazle
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    Wackoy2k wrote: »
    My question is: Are they banned or not and how did so many people get away with using them if they are banned?

    They are banned as far as I am aware but it would need to be one punctilious official that would pull you up on it. Don't put it up around your shoulders until its the march of the penguins heading to the swim and doubtful whether anyone would notice it

    (watch the bare torso in transition though)

    In fairness the TI guy in The Quiet Man did this rule right with a few friendly reminders to anyone in transition before the race


  • #196
    miller82
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    catweazle wrote: »
    They are banned as far as I am aware but it would need to be one punctilious official that would pull you up on it. Don't put it up around your shoulders until its the march of the penguins heading to the swim and doubtful whether anyone would notice it

    (watch the bare torso in transition though)

    In fairness the TI guy in The Quiet Man did this rule right with a few friendly reminders to anyone in transition before the race

    if its banned i'm not sure it should be encouraged to be done on the sly. I cant think of another example of where this attitude is a problem, but i'm sure there is one :p


  • #197
    sconhome
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    Wackoy2k wrote: »
    A great weekend overall in Kilkee this year, but have to admit that the drafting was ridiculous.

    I had a group of about 10-12 riders pass me out only to have to pass them all out again a few minutes later when they came upon a hill. Majority had the same club jersey on.

    But aside from the drafting. I purchased a new wetsuit a month ago (Rocket Science "Rocket" with the Carbon Drive fins on the Forearm).

    I was told that the suit was banned from the race and we would be disqualified if I wore it even with the little fins cut off.

    I went off and bought another wetsuit (Rocket Science Elite - Wife was not impressed seeing another wetsuit arrive).

    But on the day I counted 7 in Wave 1 and even more in Wave 2.

    My question is: Are they banned or not and how did so many people get away with using them if they are banned?


    Yes they are banned. Can I ask how you came to buy it? If from a shop, they would be well aware that they are illegal for triathlon swimming.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80247268
    catweazle wrote: »
    They are banned as far as I am aware but it would need to be one punctilious official that would pull you up on it. Don't put it up around your shoulders until its the march of the penguins heading to the swim and doubtful whether anyone would notice it

    (watch the bare torso in transition though)

    In fairness the TI guy in The Quiet Man did this rule right with a few friendly reminders to anyone in transition before the race

    I'm so disappointed, I expected better from you. :rolleyes:
    miller82 wrote: »
    if its banned i'm not sure it should be encouraged to be done on the sly. I cant think of another example of where this attitude is a problem, but i'm sure there is one :p

    There in lies the issue, people bending the rules to suit them and we having 14 page bitchfests afterwards.


  • #198
    Wackoy2k
    Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭Wackoy2k


    Bought it off an Irish site and said that it met all ITU regulations.

    What is worrying me now is that I am doing an Ironman in Mallorca this September and not sure if they are allowed at that distance.

    I guess I will be getting rid of it and using the second suit I went off and bought.

    What wrecked my head was the number of people using them last weekend.

    Even looking at the pictures on Flickr, you can see a lot of them while people were standing around in transition. The red vortex patches blatantly obvious.


  • #199
    tunney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    I'm sure that TI promptly get on top of this

    Five days and then I will be fvckless on this issue.


  • #200
    catweazle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    Alas I don't practice what I preach and I purchase a heavily discounted wetsuit in the depths of winter when I am 2 stone over what I should be. Perhaps if I moved to the Southern hemisphere it would have been a good deal


  • #201
    Oldtrier
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭Oldtrier


    Huff n Puff wrote: »
    They better not. Age group wave start races are awful. You have listed two races that I would never do. No need to drag down Ireland's best race too. Plenty of drafting goes on at those other two races anyway.

    Lining up at the swim start with the rest of Ireland's best is what its all about. 30 years of this race being brilliant, about to be spoiled by some eejits down the back of the field drafting for 100th place. Highly annoying.

    Let the best 50 men and women off together in Kilkee to battle it out each year for the National Championships and the rest of ye can do whatever the hell ye want!!

    Who ever Huff n Puff is, is so arrogant. I thought that Kilkee was one of the best races I have ever done but from all reports there was significant drafting at the front as well as back down with the "eejits". If H n P is so good as to be at the front why does he/she find what goes on down at the back annoying? While there was some seriously bad drafting towards the back with groups of up to 30, from reports some of what went on at the front was systematic and calculated cheating. One of the appeals of tri is that it caters for all levels and H n P may not believe it some of the AGs train as hard as some elites but the A part of AG has a way of catching up. So H n P take your head out of your A, tri is not just for the first 50!


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