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Perfect draft users

  • 15-06-2018 10:16pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭


    Hi there. Was wondering if there are any fellow Irish users of the above beer dispensing unit by Phillips. If so I am keen to know where you source your 6 litre kegs from and if you have any issues with customs and excise charges?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭poitinstill


    saw load of those mini kegs in the UK in tesco/morrison etc but at about 18stg for a 6l keg its still very expensive. will be in france in 2 weeks will check the cost there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭rpmcmurphy


    saw load of those mini kegs in the UK in tesco/morrison etc but at about 18stg for a 6l keg its still very expensive. will be in france in 2 weeks will check the cost there

    Thank you. Do you remember what brands off hand you saw? Might be worth a trip up north!


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Byrnezo


    Hey OP,

    I got one of these beauts as a Christmas present from herself and love it.

    Did you ever figure out the best way to get the kegs? Parcel Motel/Addresspal won't send alcohol as I'm sure you now know.

    Did you find a shop up north that does em? Like in Newry?

    Happy New Year!

    rpmcmurphy wrote: »
    Hi there. Was wondering if there are any fellow Irish users of the above beer dispensing unit by Phillips. If so I am keen to know where you source your 6 litre kegs from and if you have any issues with customs and excise charges?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭rpmcmurphy


    No. Its gathering dust at home
    Bought it brand new and only have put 4 kegs through it. Leffe blonde, kwak, leffe ruby and hoegaarden. Most sellers will only ship to UK address and as you mention parcel motel or equivalents will not carry alcohol. Such a shame. I expect even Brexit will severely restrict UK users in sourcing their 6litre kegs.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6 SheikhSteve


    rpmcmurphy wrote: »
    No. Its gathering dust at home
    Bought it brand new and only have put 4 kegs through it. Leffe blonde, kwak, leffe ruby and hoegaarden. Most sellers will only ship to UK address and as you mention parcel motel or equivalents will not carry alcohol. Such a shame. I expect even Brexit will severely restrict UK users in sourcing their 6litre kegs.
    You can get them from Beerhawk (dotcodotuk)
    And checked their delivery and they ship to ROI for £5 :-) also have a lot of variety (and some money off first order is its not already on offer). Don't know about customs duties though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The likelyhood from experience here is that they're ignorant of customs and once a few get siezed and they need to refund they'll stop shipping. Tens of different sites have at this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭The Floyd p


    You can get them from Beerhawk (dotcodotuk)
    And checked their delivery and they ship to ROI for £5 :-) also have a lot of variety (and some money off first order is its not already on offer). Don't know about customs duties though

    Have you ordered any kegs for this yet? Any experience with it?

    I really want to get a home keg system like this but sourcing the kegs is easily the hardest part.


  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭tomhalloween


    You can get them from Beerhawk (dotcodotuk)
    And checked their delivery and they ship to ROI for £5 :-) also have a lot of variety (and some money off first order is its not already on offer). Don't know about customs duties though
    They no longer ship to Ireland regardless what their website says. I say that as a former customer who's perfect draft machine is gathering dust.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭snowgal


    damn damn damn it! I got this years ago for hubby and he loved it!! But I cannot get kegs anywhere.............Its very annoying..........


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1 Georgire


    Omg i just bought one for my husband... and used addresspal as my address...
    Can you buy the jegs up north !!.. will they deliver my machine & Keg !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭poitinstill


    Georgire wrote: »
    Omg i just bought one for my husband... and used addresspal as my address...
    Can you buy the jegs up north !!.. will they deliver my machine & Keg !!

    is cancelling an option. id say fairly obsolete these days


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭snowgal


    I just came across a site called Sub Torp, Belgian I think......They seem to deliver to Ireland!!!!!!!!!! Fingers crossed everyone....................................


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭snowgal


    Just to update yee on this, I just ordered 2 6litre kegs from the site in my post above, feckin delighted! Not cheap I warn yee, but if you want them then they deliver...I’ll let you know when it arrives, I’d imagine it’ll take a long time at the minute.


  • Registered Users Posts: 152 ✭✭Townie_P


    Georgire wrote: »
    Omg i just bought one for my husband... and used addresspal as my address...
    Can you buy the jegs up north !!.. will they deliver my machine & Keg !!
    Did your delivery arrive yet?
    snowgal wrote: »
    Just to update yee on this, I just ordered 2 6litre kegs from the site in my post above, feckin delighted! Not cheap I warn yee, but if you want them then they deliver...I’ll let you know when it arrives, I’d imagine it’ll take a long time at the minute.
    Please do update us when it arrives. I've been looking at buying a PD for a while but it's getting the kegs that has put me off. Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭snowgal


    Will do. Just got email thats it has been shipped so we'll see how long it takes! OH cant wait for a real pint! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,622 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Just to remind everyone that importing alcohol into Ireland, without a special license, is illegal.
    The Gloomster!


    With my business hat on, there’s obviously an opportunity here for one of our micro brewers. Alternatively, one of the better off-licences, like Martins in Fairview, might be a good place to ask if they could stock them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 152 ✭✭Townie_P


    snowgal wrote: »
    Will do. Just got email thats it has been shipped so we'll see how long it takes! OH cant wait for a real pint! :D
    I have a Guinness tap here at home and managed to get a keg just before the lockdown. It's running low now though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭maddness


    Townie_P wrote: »
    I have a Guinness tap here at home and managed to get a keg just before the lockdown. It's running low now though!

    I’m very jealous...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭thedeal


    I am looking to buy a perfect draft myself. Have a friend up North that can take delivery from beerhawk but after that would like to order kegs to my door. I see bier-wein.de have an option of delivery to Ireland but anybody ever order from these and if so did it get delivered?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭snowgal


    close your ears Gloomster!
    I received my perfect Draft kegs yesterday. OH delighted and had his first pint in 7 weeks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,622 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    snowgal wrote: »
    close your ears Gloomster!
    I received my perfect Draft kegs yesterday. OH delighted and had his first pint in 7 weeks!

    Foiled again! ;)



  • Registered Users Posts: 152 ✭✭Townie_P


    snowgal wrote: »
    close your ears Gloomster!
    I received my perfect Draft kegs yesterday. OH delighted and had his first pint in 7 weeks!
    Great stuff, thanks for updating
    thedeal wrote: »
    I am looking to buy a perfect draft myself. Have a friend up North that can take delivery from beerhawk but after that would like to order kegs to my door. I see bier-wein.de have an option of delivery to Ireland but anybody ever order from these and if so did it get delivered?
    I've not used them myself but I do know a few people who have got deliveries from Bier Wein without any issue


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 eugers1


    Hey I'm wondering are people managing to get the kegs delivered or are customs taking them. Thanks
    Also looking to buy starter pack from beerhawk and get delivered by AddressPal. Did this work for anybody. Thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭pale rider


    I have also just bought a 5 litre mini keg system, looks like I will need to buy empty mini kegs and fill myself, I find at €35 its every expensive, its that or not use it..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Paulsnr12


    Hi everyone I order from Bier & Wein Versand last week but my order is still in process very long time really.i have email them 3 times now no reply. As everyone order from them if so does it take a long time thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,622 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Just to remind everyone that importing alcohol into Ireland, without a special license, is illegal.
    The Gloomster!


    With my business hat on, there’s obviously an opportunity here for one of our micro brewers. Alternatively, one of the better off-licences, like Martins in Fairview, might be a good place to ask if they could stock them.

    Good to see Hope Brewery and Martins keep an eye on this forum. :)

    https://martinsofflicence.ie/collections/5-litre-mini-kegs-range


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Paulsnr12


    eugers1 wrote: »
    Hey I'm wondering are people managing to get the kegs delivered or are customs taking them. Thanks
    Also looking to buy starter pack from beerhawk and get delivered by AddressPal. Did this work for anybody. Thanks again


    Hi i order my machine to the house but I order my kegs to the north as I have family up there address pal will deliver the machine not so sure on the kegs tho


  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭tomhalloween


    Things could be looking up
    thebeergals.com


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Fair play to you and wishing you the best of success. Though check the website, it isnt working for me at the moment, it just goes to Shopify and says it is not yet set up.

    Is Perfect Draft a locked in system like Nespresso pods or is there a way for microbrewers to open up the kegs and fill them with their own product?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Davexirl


    Thinking of ordering the perfect draft machine, only recently found out about it and the kegs. Good reviews for it and plenty of different beers. Anyone used thebeergals.com yet?


  • Moderators Posts: 6,870 ✭✭✭Spocker


    Davexirl wrote: »
    Thinking of ordering the perfect draft machine, only recently found out about it and the kegs. Good reviews for it and plenty of different beers. Anyone used thebeergals.com yet?

    Yep, I have (for beer); and theres free delivery on your first order. I spoke with Georgina directly on the phone, very helpful. I'm still working my way through the kegs, so haven't tried the return process yet.

    FWIW, I got Leffe Ruby (new to me), Blond (I know and like), and Franziskaner (my usual tipple, saves me going to Lidl). I won't be getting the Leffe Ruby again, for too sweet for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Howard the Duck


    just ordered one from TheBeerGals yesterday so I'll see what happens. It looks like their variety of kegs isn't as vast as the UK sites hope they increase it. There is a real gap in the Irish market for this stuff, I know two other people that have one of these systems and another who is looking at buying one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 pjamas


    Hi All:
    I live local so went today and bought a machine and first 3 kegs. Set up was easy.( 5-10 mins). Girl there was very informative and said that they will be increasing their range as time goes on. Only 7 weeks open and are very busy. Giving the €5 back on all empties. Enquired in relation as to why you need to buy 3 kegs at a time and it has to do with the fact that they have a ‘wholesale license ‘. Once set up it seems to be working perfectly. Beer ( Jupiler) is really good. Prices are as on the website and kegs range from €40-€52. Not sure on delivery. Didn’t need it. Hope this helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Howard the Duck


    Got my machine off thebeergals and I'm very happy with it, great piece of kit. The kegs came separately and once finished you back them in the box they came in email beergals and they send a courier to pick it up, you then get 5 euro credit per keg. Great system I think.

    I emailed them about their selection as it seems more limited then UK sites, they said with each new order they place they get 1 new beer to see if it would be popular and although there are 40 types of beer they are limited in production.

    Now I'm just waiting for the weekend to start and I'll have football and draft beer to enjoy again..*single tear of happiness rolls down my cheek*


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  • Moderators Posts: 6,870 ✭✭✭Spocker


    GNow I'm just waiting for the weekend until it's 6pm somewhere in the world to start and I'll have football and draft beer to enjoy again..*single tear of happiness rolls down my cheek*

    FYP :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Davexirl


    I see the machine is £199 on beer hawk, good price for it. Anyone order the machine only with them, with delivery to Parcel Motel?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 hootenanny


    Davexirl wrote: »
    I see the machine is £199 on beer hawk, good price for it. Anyone order the machine only with them, with delivery to Parcel Motel?

    Ordered the machine from beerhawk a month ago. Used addresspal for the free delivery (English address). Addresspal cost around 11 euro for home delivery. Should be fine with Parcel motel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭tinner777


    Davexirl wrote: »
    I see the machine is £199 on beer hawk, good price for it. Anyone order the machine only with them, with delivery to Parcel Motel?

    got the stella bundle yesterday, oversized, so had to pick it up from the depot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 eugers1


    Have used these girls from the start. They are excellent. Brilliant customer service. Ordered beer 11 o clock on Tues arrived 10 o clock Wed morning .
    Have spoken a few times with Rosalind and emails wit Georgina and all very helpful..keg Returns process is good too and money credited within a few days... Range of beers and bundles growing all the time... Long may it last...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Davexirl


    My machine arrived this week from Beer Hawk through parcel motel.

    I ordered 3 kegs from The Beer Gals and they were delivered the next day, a really good service.

    Have my first keg chilling now, Fransiskaner and I also got a keg of Stella and Spaten, I never tried Spaten beer before but said I would give it a go.

    Looking forward to trying my first pint tomorrow.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Davexirl wrote: »
    I never tried Spaten beer before but said I would give it a go.
    It's under €2 a bottle in Aldi. BeerGals has it at €37.50 net for 6L, so €3.12 per bottle equivalent*. It's a heck of a mark-up for a mass market German lager, much as I love the stuff.

    *As long as you've ordered an additional 12 litres of beer with it, and returned your keg to them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭social butterfly 2020


    tinner777 wrote: »
    got the stella bundle yesterday, oversized, so had to pick it up from the depot.

    Ordered the same bundle Monday just gone. Fingers crossed it makes it across. I went with addresspal and the home delivery which is costing me €13.49. 3 to 4 business days from Thursday they said.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭snowgal


    Ordered the same bundle Monday just gone. Fingers crossed it makes it across. I went with addresspal and the home delivery which is costing me €13.49. 3 to 4 business days from Thursday they said.

    Can I ask how much are the kegs?


  • Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭social butterfly 2020


    snowgal wrote: »
    Can I ask how much are the kegs?

    The unit and 1 keg of Stella cost me €265 that also included glasses and other stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭tinner777


    I know it's expensive but… the pints are savage through it


  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭tarmon


    If you are drinking some of the Belgian beers on the Perfect Draft it can actually work out cheaper.

    For example the Triple Karmeliet is around €3.45 for a 330 ml bottle which if my maths is correct translates to €62.73 for 6 litres but the keg for the perfect draft is €53.95 with the Beer Gals. Take off your fiver keg deposit and that brings it down to €48.95.

    I know not everyone wants to drink Triple Belgian beers but if you do its a great system and the beer tastes phenomenal out of it. Also I don't have to be schlepping around about 18 x 330ml bottles when I can get a single 6L keg.

    Hope that helps if anyone is thinking about the Perfect Draft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭Bandito909


    Would this system be good for party's etc?

    If I had one or two legs chilling in the fridge, and put them in the perfect draft, would I be waiting a long time for the beer to be ready to be poured?

    Also, is there much wastage? And how many pints would one expect from a keg? Ta... Would love one !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    The Beergals look overpriced with the system alone being 299 euro vs 199 stg which is 224 euro.

    Would be interested in this system for homebrewing. There are tutorials online on how to sterilise and reuse the kegs with homebrewed beer.

    Edit: Some of the Beergals starter bundles don't look too bad in terms of value. <Machine would work out at about 250 with this one:

    https://www.thebeergals.com/collections/perfectdraft-bundles/products/goose-bundle-ipa-midway


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 bluebird1


    Hi ... Has anyone tried the Beerhawk and AddressPal route for 2 kegs, which is within AddresPals requirements. I've heard that they, and Parcel Wizard and possibly Parcel Motel won't accept such alcohol consignments.

    Any experience of these scenarios would be a great help.


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