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Strumms · 16-02-2020 3:17pm

11.1 runs per over required. If successful this would be the fourth highest international T20 run chase. The highest being 245 successfully chased down by Australia vs New Zealand in February 2018.

Inquitus · 16-02-2020 4:14pm

England off to a flyer here, ball flying to all ends of the ground.

Strumms · 16-02-2020 4:38pm

Shamsi getting no bounce at all, weird, slightly bounce free and wideish deliveries

Inquitus · 16-02-2020 5:06pm

Chased it down very handy in the end, Morgan with a cracking knock.

Strumms · 16-02-2020 5:20pm

Chased with the guts of an over to spare too 5 balls in fact, seriously impressive.

Strumms · 16-02-2020 5:44pm

Just looking at Wiki, Eoin’s last Test was way back in 2012..

16 matches

24 innings

30.43 average

130 highest score

2 100’s

3 50’s

25/26 playing his last test match. I’m just wondering considering his talent both as a cricketer and a leader with bags of unbelievable talent and a huge will to win... could or should he have been given another shot ? Would he have wanted it even ? He’s been so consistently fantastic in limited overs I’d be of the mind that maybe 3 or so years ago the time was right to give him another shot.

Bit late at 33 to expect a call up but you never know, whether he’d say yes is a different story. Any ideas anyone?

Inquitus · 16-02-2020 7:58pm

Strumms wrote: »

Bit late at 33 to expect a call up but you never know, whether he’d say yes is a different story. Any ideas anyone?

He probably deserved another shot, but as you say it's likely too late now.

Strumms · 16-02-2020 9:06pm

Inquitus wrote: »

He probably deserved another shot, but as you say it's likely too late now.

Im thinking the same. I’m just wondering would he be better off relinquishing the one day captaincies, having won both world cups now, he has nothing left to prove in the shorter format, be interesting and indeed brave if he’d want to have a late dash back to test play but with his last test being 8 years ago it’s unlikely. Just a shame he didn't in the last few years get another shot.

Then again even in the longer format of first class cricket he averages 39 which for a long career isn’t all that, you’d be expecting mid 40’s.... might just be that when you look at those stats and when the selectors do, it’s that they feel safer backing somebody else over 5 days.

Beasty · 16-02-2020 10:07pm

The fact he's focussing on the one day game has, in my view, made him a much greater leader for that team. England have tried a few one day specialist batsmen in the Test team since Morgan played, but none have managed to maintain a place in the team consistently.

If he had been worrying about keeping his place in the Test team I suspect his one day skills would not have been so prevalent. I have little doubt he would have maintained his place in the team, but he and the backroom staff have been focussed on delivering white ball success and that's exactly what they have done.

England still have a number of Test players who can and do score quickly in the Test team, but look at arguably the most talented of them all - Jos Buttler - he's been unable to convert his one day form into a proper Test batsman

I think the England hierarchy will point to all their success as being evidence that they have played things pretty well

Strumms · 16-02-2020 10:42pm

Buttler has one hundred and fifteen fifties in 40 tests, averaging 32.29.

Good enough if you fancy slotting him in at 7. If you can’t, hmmm not selectable.

Beasty · 16-02-2020 10:59pm

Strumms wrote: »

Buttler has one hundred and fifteen fifties in 40 tests, averaging 32.29.

Good enough if you fancy slotting him in at 7. If you can’t, hmmm not selectable.

Absolutely fine at no 7, but his keeping is not as good as Bairstows (but I am a biased Yorkshireman:p). He was batting no 5 when Bairstow was keeper. However Stokes has leapfrogged him in the test batting line-up. Stokes is showing his talent in all formats.

The other thing I would add is that Bairstow, when he was no 7, played with a lot more freedom and managed to score freely while the tail-enders would try and keep him company. Playing Bairstow as a specialist batsman in the Test team does not work, but as a wicketkeeper/batsman he's never let the team down in either role

Both Bairstow and Buttler are worth their weight in gold in the white ball game though

Beasty · 16-02-2020 11:07pm

Strumms wrote: »

Chased with the guts of an over to spare too 5 balls in fact, seriously impressive.

They only had one way to approach the chase, and their strength in depth of batting shone through. On another day it could have been Roy or Stokes, but when you get 3 batsmen scoring 50s in a 20 over match you're going to have a fair chance of winning. They did it without having to expose Moeen to much time at the crease, but he's yet another match winner in that batting lineup

Strumms · 16-02-2020 11:11pm

Agreed, hes sure a very good backup to have. England struggled for a few years having a quality backup keeper/batsman, look at the list after Alec Stewart retired who just didn’t make the cut...

Richard Blakley
Steve Rhodes
Warren Hegg ( brilliant for Lancs but the step-up was too much, weak batsman)
Chris Read
James Foster
Geraint Jones (hit and miss)
Tim Ambrose

Beasty · 16-02-2020 11:48pm

My kids used to go to school with Warren Hegg's daughter;)

T20 has brought out the importance of a keeper who can bat. Arguably Gilchrist was a bit of a pioneer in terms of a successful and aggressive keeper/batsman, but the newer guys have taken it to another level. England regularly have 3 keepers in their ODI squads and with Banton that could become 4.

Bairstow's dad did take a few first class wickers as a bowler, and given Jonny's all round capabilities I would not put it past him turning his arm over one day. In fact he's bowled one over in FC cricket but is still 9 wickets behind his dad:)

Strumms · 17-02-2020 12:11am

Looking at Hegg’s stats, in first class cricket he averaged 27.90, an average enough return you’d say but on closer reading he managed 7 hundreds and 55 half centuries. Ok the low average would have been influenced by him coming in at 7 or 8 and not a lot of time at the crease but ability was there at first class level.

Mysterypunter · 24-02-2020 3:04pm

Women's T20 is ongoing in Australia. Some good matches so far, India beat Australia, and are currently playing Bangladesh. Looks like India wins, 143 set for Bangladesh, need 35 in 3 overs, won't get them. Australia saw off Sri Lanka this morning in a close one, Second loss for Sri Lanka, also lost to New Zealand. South Africa beat England in a great game yesterday, and West Indies beat newcomers Thailand, who showed up well in the field. Low scores and close games the theme so far, looks good.

Strumms · 29-02-2020 1:04pm

Australia vs South Africa is a good watch, after a fluid enough start by South Africa the Aussies picked up a couple of quick wickets and almost have got a stranglehold on SA now, dot balls and singles the only currency out there. After loosing a couple of wickets to big shots there is some reconsolidating out there and an unwillingness to trying going big again.

Gillespy · 01-03-2020 3:49pm

Who's watching the cricket in New Zealand? India on the back foot going into day 3 already 1-0 down in the series. Ball on top though so any kind of score over 150 could be defendable.

Mysterypunter · 02-03-2020 12:56am

Listening to it on radio New Zealand. India 124 all out, NZ chasing 132 are none down for about 15, but the boys haven't mentioned the score for a while. Enjoyable coverage, 20-0

Gillespy · 02-03-2020 11:46am

New Zealand made easy work of that. What a first wicket partnership. So often the case after blowing a side away you see the openers go out and make it look so easy. Home conditions mean so much in test cricket but India were a huge letdown. Never turned up.

Good for NZ after the tonking they took in Oz. Where was 6'8'' all-rounder Jamieson for that tour? They've found their Jason Holder with him.

Inquitus · 04-03-2020 3:35pm

Looks like the Womens T20 WC might descend into farce with both SF's cancelled due to rain and the group winners progressing without a ball bowled.

Tom Mann Centuria · 05-03-2020 11:46pm

Inquitus wrote: »

Looks like the Womens T20 WC might descend into farce with both SF's cancelled due to rain and the group winners progressing without a ball bowled.

Aussies South Africa went ahead, good game, but it was ridiculous they didn't factor in a rain day for both the semi finals of a world cup, so England missed out and India went through.

Mysterypunter · 08-03-2020 10:22pm

Australia ran away with the final

Slim Charles · 29-03-2020 7:25pm

Hearing Rod Tucker saying "flatline, flatline, flatline..." when checking ultra edge tickles me inexplicably.

Beasty · 31-03-2020 3:45pm

Slim Charles wrote: »

Hearing Rod Tucker saying "flatline, flatline, flatline..." when checking ultra edge tickles me inexplicably.

Maybe put him in charge of flattening the curve?

Gillespy · 31-03-2020 4:01pm

Rock n roll Erasmus is another good one.

Sky Sports statistician Benedict Bermange is running a simulated test between Sri Lanka and England and I'm spending a little too long studying the scorecard when he posts updates.

Beasty · 31-03-2020 5:41pm

Do you have a score update?

This may be reminiscent of the times i watched tests on Teletext....

Gillespy · 31-03-2020 11:28pm

Series is over now. Cricket simulation is new to me but it's been around for a while going by the comments to his tweets. People simulating county championships in the 90s. Imagine the computer needed to simulate Headingley or the world cup final. :eek:

https://twitter.com/Benedict_B/status/1244965560066224128?s=20

Beasty · 01-04-2020 7:03pm

Hopefully that put's England top of the league?

:pac:

Richard Hillman · 29-05-2020 11:26pm

West Indies have agreed in principle to travel to England

https://twitter.com/windiescricket/status/1266488648054308864?s=19

Might be an opportunity to get everyone together to play for the West Indies. Chris Gayle, Dre Russ, Narine :pac:

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