Guinness Pro 14- Tv Viewing Options

MJohnston · 17-07-2018 4:53pm

Sky was always extremely overpriced though, if you didn't care about football.

ScrubsfanChris · 17-07-2018 8:12pm

Thought I'd mention it before anyone goes off and switches to Eir.
The EirSport App does not work or wont function properly on those rooted android boxes in case anyone was planning on using it that way.

If you have a smart tv then you can log into the EirSport site using the web browser, although I haven't tried this Eir says it can be done.
Easiest options are mobile device + chromecast or laptop + HDMI cable.

I wouldn't be bothered with the Eir tv package as its about 80% free to air channels by the looks of it anyway.

FACECUTTR · 17-07-2018 8:31pm

What are the pay per view options or online options. I have sky but wouldn't change to die and only have interest in pro14 really ?

bilston · 17-07-2018 9:07pm

MJohnston wrote: »

Sky was always extremely overpriced though, if you didn't care about football.

Yeah it's a rip off. They lost the rights to the Champions League 3 years ago and responded by putting their subscriptions up!

I have toyed with the idea of getting rid of Sky Sports because BT have a decent football portfolio now and there isn't much rugby left, but I also like Golf and a bit of Cricket so I'm basically stuck with them.

awec · 17-07-2018 9:11pm

I'll probably end up with both Sky + Eir which will be like 80 quid a month.

In fairness, still cheaper than going to the pub every weekend (in terms of money and marital brownie points).

ScrubsfanChris · 17-07-2018 10:35pm

Trying to think of the rugby Sky Sports have left.

Top 14
England Autunm series.
Oxford v Cambridge :pac:

Are any rights confirmed for the summer internationals?

bilston · 17-07-2018 10:54pm

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Trying to think of the rugby Sky Sports have left.

Top 14
England Autunm series.
Oxford v Cambridge :pac:

Are any rights confirmed for the summer internationals?

All SANZAR rugby (including any tours down there, won't be any until 2020 though) and Ireland's Autumn Tests, I assume they have the 2021 Lions Series as well.

Tigerandahalf · 17-07-2018 11:27pm

awec wrote: »

I'll probably end up with both Sky + Eir which will be like 80 quid a month.

In fairness, still cheaper than going to the pub every weekend (in terms of money and marital brownie points).

It is a shame that BT sports don't go on the freesat system. No need for Sky then.

icdg · 18-07-2018 8:49am

They are a pay-TV channel; Freesat are, well, free. It’s kind of the point of it, there’s no provision in the spec for any conditional access system of any kind.

You can take eir Sport without taking Sky or any other pay TV service - you need to have had Sky in the past, or otherwise get your hands on a box and valid Sky viewing card. But you don’t need a Sky subscription.

Tigerandahalf · 18-07-2018 9:10am

icdg wrote: »

They are a pay-TV channel; Freesat are, well, free. It’s kind of the point of it, there’s no provision in the spec for any conditional access system of any kind.

Freesat gave the go ahead for subscription services to be on the platform. There was a lot of speculation at the time that Now TV or BT would go on it. It already has Netflix, Rakuten TV, TVUK, Ketchup and other subscription streaming services.

Whether BT could be broadcasted over the satellite system on freesat I am not sure.

Former Former · 18-07-2018 9:12am

For those with a Sky box (even if you don't currently subscribe to Sky), Eir Sports are running a promotion; €1 per month for 3 months.

https://subscribe.eirsport.ie/

Hard to see a downside to that. Obviously you'll only get two months of the rugby season out of it but still, a good way to dip your toe in.

Tigerandahalf · 18-07-2018 9:37am

Just to remember if you don't have the Sky sub you can't timeshift or record the eir/bt channels.

awec · 18-07-2018 10:19am

Former Former wrote: »

For those with a Sky box (even if you don't currently subscribe to Sky), Eir Sports are running a promotion; €1 per month for 3 months.

https://subscribe.eirsport.ie/

Hard to see a downside to that. Obviously you'll only get two months of the rugby season out of it but still, a good way to dip your toe in.

Just took this offer. Nice one.

I can't find Eir Sports 1 HD though. I can see 2 HD, but not 1.

awec · 18-07-2018 10:40am

So it turns out that Eir Sports 1 is SD only on Sky. That's a bit garbage really.

Homesick Alien · 18-07-2018 10:48am

connemara man wrote: »

You can if you're a Mobile bill pay customer that gets the phone aswell not on a sim only deal

Yeah but you can only cast to your TV if you're a broadband customer. You can only watch on your phone if you're a bill pay mobile customer. Am currently on a sim only but was gonna go bill pay to get the sports app assuming I could cast it. As that's not the case and I hate watching anything lasting more than 5 mins on my phone I'll either have to consider broadband with eir or the mirroring apps that have been suggested here.

Tigerandahalf · 18-07-2018 10:55am

Folks if your broadband is good enough but don't want/can't go with eir ye should consider contacting them to see if they will let customers use the app for a monthly fee. Surely, they wouldn't want to turn away customers.

If you are on twitter maybe tweet eirsports and include the pro14 in it so they can see people's needs. If enough people do it they would have to offer something. The app is there afterall.

icdg · 18-07-2018 1:10pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Freesat gave the go ahead for subscription services to be on the platform. There was a lot of speculation at the time that Now TV or BT would go on it. It already has Netflix, Rakuten TV, TVUK, Ketchup and other subscription streaming services.

Whether BT could be broadcasted over the satellite system on freesat I am not sure.

None of those services you mentioned actually broadcast on satellite at all! You may be able to get them through an app on the box, the same way you might through your Smart TV, but they are not being received through the satellite system. They are not “on Freesat” (insofar as Freesat is actually a platform - really it is no more than a particular specification for satellite recievers and an electronic programme guide for certain U.K. based channels on the Astra satellite).

Former Former · 18-07-2018 1:17pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Folks if your broadband is good enough but don't want/can't go with eir ye should consider contacting them to see if they will let customers use the app for a monthly fee. Surely, they wouldn't want to turn away customers.

If you are on twitter maybe tweet eirsports and include the pro14 in it so they can see people's needs. If enough people do it they would have to offer something. The app is there afterall.

Eir Sports exists solely to attract customers to subscribe to Eir broadband and/or mobile. They are never going to throw it open to people who want to stay with other BB providers unless a) they're forced to by Comreg or someone or b) Virgin Media's new sports channel gets enough traction to spark some sort of negotiation.

icdg · 18-07-2018 1:29pm

I have Virgin Media Broadband and have eir Sport (through satellite). True I pay handsomely for the privilege (€27.50pm now, I think) and it would be cheaper for me to have eir Broadband, but unfortunately that option isn’t open to me at present.

Tigerandahalf · 18-07-2018 2:54pm

Former Former wrote: »

Eir Sports exists solely to attract customers to subscribe to Eir broadband and/or mobile. They are never going to throw it open to people who want to stay with other BB providers unless a) they're forced to by Comreg or someone or b) Virgin Media's new sports channel gets enough traction to spark some sort of negotiation.

What about people in NI who can't get eir broadband? Does the premier sports app apply to NI? I thought the tv rights deal covered the island of Ireland thus people in NI can't subscribe to the premier sports app?

Cookiemunster · 18-07-2018 3:07pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

What about people in NI who can't get eir broadband? Does the premier sports app apply to NI? I thought the tv rights deal covered the island of Ireland thus people in NI can't subscribe to the premier sports app?

No, the Premier Sport deal covers the whole of the UK including NI and the Eir sport deal cover the country of Ireland, not the whole island.

nc6000 · 18-07-2018 10:58pm

awec wrote: »

So it turns out that Eir Sports 1 is SD only on Sky. That's a bit garbage really.

Just after noticing that myself, not good.

Tigerandahalf · 19-07-2018 6:47am

nc6000 wrote: »

Just after noticing that myself, not good.

I think that will go HD eventually as Premier Sports in the uk (sister channel of eir sports) announced at the time that they would have a 2nd premier sports channel in the uk. I would presume this would be HD alongside the existing channel and thus eirsport 1 in HD should follow. That is just my hunch.

19-07-2018 11:04am

Will Eurosport have coverage online in European markets again next season?

Tigerandahalf · 20-07-2018 7:30am

For anyone in NI it seems Virgin are going to offer 2 months free to Premier Sports. They have the rights for the UK and NI.

They are the sister channel of eir sports. Could Virgin be about to do a u turn re dealing with eir sports for the republic?

MJohnston · 20-07-2018 9:06am

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

For anyone in NI it seems Virgin are going to offer 2 months free to Premier Sports. They have the rights for the UK and NI.

They are the sister channel of eir sports. Could Virgin be about to do a u turn re dealing with eir sports for the republic?

I don't believe that PremierSports is connected to Eir at all anymore.

Tigerandahalf · 20-07-2018 9:15am

MJohnston wrote: »

I don't believe that PremierSports is connected to Eir at all anymore.

They're separate companies now but if Virgin are acquiring PS for the pro14 in the uk it would make sense that they would also want them in Ireland. Could they possibly do a deal for the eir sport channels only as it is those that carry the pro14 games. They might not want the BT channels as tv3/virgin have 1 Champions Cup game.

MJohnston · 20-07-2018 9:21am

I doubt it - Virgin Media UK did a deal with BT Sports in the past, who were similarly connected with EirSports, but Virgin Media Ireland didn't budge.

Cookiemunster · 20-07-2018 9:32am

MJohnston wrote: »

I doubt it - Virgin Media UK did a deal with BT Sports in the past, who were similarly connected with EirSports, but Virgin Media Ireland didn't budge.

AFAIK Eir Sports pay BT to carry their channels in Ireland. Virgin dealing with BT in the UK has no relevance to Virgin Ireland dealing with Eir.

irelandrover · 20-07-2018 9:37am

Zayd Clever Toupee wrote: »

Will Eurosport have coverage online in European markets again next season?

I really hope so as it was great last year. But i havent been able ot find anything about it yet.

MJohnston · 20-07-2018 9:53am

Cookiemunster wrote: »

AFAIK Eir Sports pay BT to carry their channels in Ireland. Virgin dealing with BT in the UK has no relevance to Virgin Ireland dealing with Eir.

Yes, that's essentially my point - Virgin dealing with PremierSports in the UK has no relevance to Virgin Ireland dealing with Eir.

neddynono · 21-07-2018 11:54am

I’m a sky customer tied to a broadband contact with them for a few more months. My question is if I join eir sport for 27.50 a month will I be able to view it through sky go as I’m not always staying where my sky box is?

vienne86 · 23-07-2018 7:58pm

neddynono wrote: »

I’m a sky customer tied to a broadband contact with them for a few more months. My question is if I join eir sport for 27.50 a month will I be able to view it through sky go as I’m not always staying where my sky box is?

You don't get Eir from Sky if you are a Sky customer - you get it from Eir on a separate contract - you give them your viewing card number when you sign up. Eir/BT are not Sky channels, so you won't get them on Sky Go.

icdg · 23-07-2018 8:16pm

You get access to the setantago.com website, but you need a device that can run Silverlight (ie a PC/Mac).

Tigerandahalf · 23-07-2018 8:35pm

Your best bet is to get eir broadband and you can then chromecast the games no matter where you are, on holidays in Europe even.

Cookiemunster · 24-07-2018 1:07pm

S4C will be showing one game a week, with some stipulations.

S4C Coverage per season until 2021:
– 17 Live games including two Christmas derbies
– 4 Derby games shown on delay
– Guinness PRO14 Final Series: Delayed coverage if Welsh region involved
– Guinness PRO14 Final: Live coverage if Welsh region involved

https://www.pro14rugby.org/2018/07/24/s4c-will-continue-to-show-free-to-air-guinness-pro14-games-until-202

kooga · 24-07-2018 2:08pm

fixtures out - seems to be a lot of games on at the same time - ie two games on eirsport 1 at 7.35 on the opening day

Saturday the 1st one game at 3pm and two games KO at 17.15 and 19.35

I know some games might be on eirsport 2 but given that premier sport is just one channel how will this be done

Digifriendly · 24-07-2018 2:36pm

As I understand it Premier are launching a second channel. Premier 1 HD now displaying on Sky EPG here in N.
Ireland. Before it was just Premier.
Feel a bit sorry for rugby viewers in Scotland who have no FTA coverage apart from Freesports. Irish and Welsh viewers at least have TG4 and S4C.

MJohnston · 24-07-2018 2:39pm

Digifriendly wrote: »

As I understand it Premier are launching a second channel. Premier 1 HD now displaying on Sky EPG here in N.
Ireland. Before it was just Premier.
Feel a bit sorry for rugby viewers in Scotland who have no FTA coverage apart from Freesports. Irish and Welsh viewers at least have TG4 and S4C.

Scottish people can freely and legally watch S4C via BBC iPlayer.

kooga · 24-07-2018 3:04pm

MJohnston wrote: »

Scottish people can freely and legally watch S4C via BBC iPlayer.

I suppose with regard to FTA on these islands

TG4 for Ireland
S4C/Freesports for the UK
with regard to TG4 being available in NI I wonder on sky and virgin will the games be geo blocked

I suppose they went with S4c over BBC Alba for possibly two reasons

S4c available in HD
S4c English commentary on the red button

In addition TG4 HD is available on eir vision at no extra cost i.e on the €15 pm eir essential pack (plus eir sport 1 and 2 HD included in that price as well)

nc6000 · 24-07-2018 3:24pm

What coverage will TG4 have? I see them listed on a lot of the fixtures announced earlier.....

https://www.pro14rugby.org/match-centre/fixtures/

Digifriendly · 24-07-2018 3:34pm

MJohnston wrote: »

Digifriendly wrote: »

As I understand it Premier are launching a second channel. Premier 1 HD now displaying on Sky EPG here in N.
Ireland. Before it was just Premier.
Feel a bit sorry for rugby viewers in Scotland who have no FTA coverage apart from Freesports. Irish and Welsh viewers at least have TG4 and S4C.

Scottish people can freely and legally watch S4C via BBC iPlayer.

Correct as can viewers in N. Ireland but here in N. Ireland we also have TG4 via an aerial.

kooga · 24-07-2018 3:34pm

nc6000 wrote: »

What coverage will TG4 have? I see them listed on a lot of the fixtures announced earlier.....

https://www.pro14rugby.org/match-centre/fixtures/

1 game a week

bilston · 24-07-2018 3:36pm

Zebre v Kings is the first game on Freesports...nice one...

Ulster v Scarlets and Munster v Cheetahs clash which is a shame.

Anyway some nice looking fixtures to kick the season off with Cardiff v Leinster as well. But obviously some teams will be nowhere near full strength.

Tigerandahalf · 24-07-2018 3:37pm

I doubt s4c will have the English commentary option now. Like tg4 it will be in the native language only I would think.

S4c couldn't have English commentary when Sky were showing the same game.

kooga · 24-07-2018 4:01pm

with the new tv rights I'm going to miss scrum v on a sunday night on bbc 2 wales

PMC83 · 24-07-2018 5:33pm

nc6000 wrote: »

What coverage will TG4 have? I see them listed on a lot of the fixtures announced earlier.....

https://www.pro14rugby.org/match-centre/fixtures/

Cardiff - away - 31/8 (fri) - TG4/ Eir
Scarlets - away - 8/9 (sat) - TG4/ Eir
Dragons - home - 15/9 (sat) - TG4/ Eir
Edinburgh - home - 22/9 (sat) - Eir
Connacht - away - 29/9 (sat) - TG4/ Eir
Munster - home - 6/10 (sat) - Eir
Treviso - away - 27/10 (sat) - Eir
Kings - away - 4/11 (sun)- Eir
Ospreys - home - 23/11 (fri) - TG4/ Eir
Dragons - away - 1/12 (sat) - TG4/ Eir
Connacht - home - 22/12 (sat) - Eir
Munster - away - 29/12 (sat) - Eir
Ulster - home - 5/1 (sat) - Eir
Scarlets - home - 25/1 (fri)- TG4/ Eir
Zebre - away - 16/2 (sat) - Eir
Kings - home - 22/2 (sat) - Eir
Cheetahs - home 1/3 (fri)- Eir

Above TG4 games for Leinster, not so bad- 7 out of 17, will still make the switch to eir

arsebiscuits1 · 24-07-2018 5:36pm

PMC83 wrote: »

Cardiff - away - 31/8 (fri) - TG4/ Eir
Scarlets - away - 8/9 (sat) - TG4/ Eir
Dragons - home - 15/9 (sat) - TG4/ Eir
Edinburgh - home - 22/9 (sat) - Eir
Connacht - away - 29/9 (sat) - TG4/ Eir
Munster - home - 6/10 (sat) - Eir
Treviso - away - 27/10 (sat) - Eir
Kings - away - 4/11 (sun)- Eir
Ospreys - home - 23/11 (fri) - TG4/ Eir
Dragons - away - 1/12 (sat) - TG4/ Eir
Connacht - home - 22/12 (sat) - Eir
Munster - away - 29/12 (sat) - Eir
Ulster - home - 5/1 (sat) - Eir
Scarlets - home - 25/1 (fri)- TG4/ Eir
Zebre - away - 16/2 (sat) - Eir
Kings - home - 22/2 (sat) - Eir
Cheetahs - home 1/3 (fri)- Eir

Above TG4 games for Leinster, not so bad- 7 out of 17, will still make the switch to eir

Looking at Eir myself. Or possibly Sky with Eir added on

PMC83 · 24-07-2018 5:45pm

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Looking at Eir myself. Or possibly Sky with Eir added on

With two small kids my watching of games is usually later in the night, so need to be able to record the matches. Streaming is all well and good if its a 7.35 match, but particularly with Leinster last year there was a lot of afternoon games. Just didn't suit!

and further to that the misses isnt too happy that Virgin pulled dave without telling anyway, a channel she watches a lot. Decision made!

kooga · 24-07-2018 6:00pm

Also worth considering is just getting e vision installed if you can - as the basic tv package is €15 extra on top of your bb and phone package which includes the eir sport package in HD

Guinness Pro 14- Tv Viewing Options

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