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News and views on Greystones harbour and marina [SEE MODERATOR WARNING POST 1187]

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    #3002
    pixbyjohn
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    26046746012_0a58a38685_c.jpgGreystones Harbour 30th March 2016 by Pixbyjohn, on Flickr


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    #3003
    pixbyjohn
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    26046777712_3aa5c780c6_c.jpgGreystones Harbour 30th March 2016 by Pixbyjohn, on Flickr


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    #3004
    pixbyjohn
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    25866391410_0ca519cfda_c.jpgGreystones Harbour 30th March 2016 by Pixbyjohn, on Flickr


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    #3005
    pixbyjohn
    Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    25866387120_b754f96531_c.jpgGreystones Harbour 30th March 2016 by Pixbyjohn, on Flickr


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    #3006
    pixbyjohn
    Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    26066533022_1cf0586c8b_c.jpgHarbour Plaza 31-03-2016 by Pixbyjohn, on Flickr


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    #3007
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Who controls the slipway in the harbour? Are there any changes since last Sunday?

    Greystones-Harbour-Marina-Car-Family-Buncrana-Donegal-27th-Mar-2016.jpg

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/shocking-picture-shows-car-parked-7643707


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    #3008
    loyatemu
    Registered Users Posts: 14,787 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Who controls the slipway in the harbour? Are there any changes since last Sunday?

    there's a harbour master, but AFAIK there is no gate on the (2) slipways.

    According to one of the news reports I read about Buncrana there are 3000 access points for vehicles to the water around the coast, there's no accounting for some people's stupidity.


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    #3009
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users Posts: 28,857 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Who controls the slipway in the harbour? Are there any changes since last Sunday?

    Greystones-Harbour-Marina-Car-Family-Buncrana-Donegal-27th-Mar-2016.jpg

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/shocking-picture-shows-car-parked-7643707

    :eek: FFS! :eek:

    _________________

    While the development/progress is good to see, the harbour is turning into a symphony in concrete. And not in a good way.

    Are there any plans for softening the look of it in any way? I've only been there by boat a few times, and not recently - it was concrete-y enough then, god knows, but going by the recently posted pictures, the amount of concrete seems to have multiplied many times.


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    #3010
    Macy0161
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    loyatemu wrote: »
    there's a harbour master, but AFAIK there is no gate on the (2) slipways.

    According to one of the news reports I read about Buncrana there are 3000 access points for vehicles to the water around the coast, there's no accounting for some people's stupidity.
    Working slips do tend to be kept clear, so vehicles can put in and take out boats.

    It's not something I would do, but I thought the reaction was a bit OTT to be honest. Different slips are kept in different condition.


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    #3011
    legrand
    Registered Users Posts: 679 ✭✭✭legrand


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    :eek: FFS! :eek:

    _________________

    While the development/progress is good to see, the harbour is turning into a symphony in concrete. And not in a good way.

    Are there any plans for softening the look of it in any way? I've only been there by boat a few times, and not recently - it was concrete-y enough then, god knows, but going by the recently posted pictures, the amount of concrete seems to have multiplied many times.

    They have some green areas (seeded) and a bunch of conifers but mostly a symphony cacophony of concrete. A visitor commented (relating to the clubhouses) that if there was a prize for the most characterless architecture then it would surely win first prize. Hard to disagree.


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    #3012
    recedite
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    Macy0161 wrote: »
    It's not something I would do, but I thought the reaction was a bit OTT to be honest. Different slips are kept in different condition.
    That particular one is very, very slippery towards the end. As I know to my cost, after stepping up onto it from the shingle.


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    #3013
    Harry Kane
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭Harry Kane


    Scurrying deep underground in the buried old town dump at Greystones Harbour dwells an enormous mischief of the world’s most despised vermin, the RAT and these rats are angry. Very angry. Construction works now being carried out beside the old dump are resulting in chaos among the enormous mischief and its clandestine subterranean dwellers. This is amplified by the collapsing cliffs of the north beach as the underground rat city is attacked from all sides

    Reminding oneself that these incipient rodents can carry a variety of zoonotic pathogens such as Lassa fever, leptospirosis, Leptospira, Hantavirus, Toxoplasma gondii, Campylobacter, Weil's disease, rat bite fever, cryptosporidiosis, viral hemorrhagic feverand the dreaded bubonic plague (Black Death) it is evident that this disturbance of the mischief is now a real public health issue.


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    #3014
    pixbyjohn
    Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    Harry Kane wrote: »
    Scurrying deep underground in the buried old town dump at Greystones Harbour dwells an enormous mischief of the world’s most despised vermin, the RAT and these rats are angry. Very angry. Construction works now being carried out beside the old dump are resulting in chaos among the enormous mischief and its clandestine subterranean dwellers. This is amplified by the collapsing cliffs of the north beach as the underground rat city is attacked from all sides

    Reminding oneself that these incipient rodents can carry a variety of zoonotic pathogens such as Lassa fever, leptospirosis, Leptospira, Hantavirus, Toxoplasma gondii, Campylobacter, Weil's disease, rat bite fever, cryptosporidiosis, viral hemorrhagic feverand the dreaded bubonic plague (Black Death) it is evident that this disturbance of the mischief is now a real public health issue.

    True, but rats have always lived in that area and also in the rocks at the Kish base. Not many if anyone have suffered because of their close proximity to them over the years.


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    #3015
    Harry Kane
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭Harry Kane


    pixbyjohn wrote: »
    True, but rats have always lived in that area and also in the rocks at the Kish base. Not many if anyone have suffered because of their close proximity to them over the years.

    True, but up until now to my knowledge nobody has actually lived on the sadly lamented Kish Base nor indeed has anyone ever set up residence on top of the old town dump for that matter. However they are now building new residential dwellings right on top of the mischief at the old town dump. As a result people's health will be put in harms way. Already the abhorred rats are becoming more and more visible in the general harbour area and their audible squeaking and piping calls can startle unsuspecting onlookers. It also must be pointed out that rats are able to fit though very tiny openings, chew through various materials and dig under building foundations. Brown rats have a very high birth rate. One humble rat can give birth to 16 pups ten times a year which equates to about 2000 offspring if left unchecked. So we ignore the impending rat doom at the old town dump at the harbour our peril.


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    #3016
    legrand
    Registered Users Posts: 679 ✭✭✭legrand


    http://drewestate.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ratzilla-770x1077.jpg


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    #3017
    loyatemu
    Registered Users Posts: 14,787 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    rats are everywhere - particularly if you read the Daily Star:

    CWS_BHyXAAE54bb.jpg


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    #3018
    Annasopra
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    Eh can we scurry back on topic and less of the rodent talk

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #3019
    pixbyjohn
    Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    26463714221_1f75b99aaa_c.jpgGreystones by Pixbyjohn, on Flickr


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    #3020
    pixbyjohn
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    26257009920_07b6166a0d_c.jpgGreystones North Beach 19th April 2016 by Pixbyjohn, on Flickr


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    #3021
    pixbyjohn
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    26463839551_65e7605d22_c.jpgGreystones Harbour Marina 19th April 2016 by Pixbyjohn, on Flickr


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    #3022
    Shint0
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    legrand wrote: »
    They have some green areas (seeded) and a bunch of conifers but mostly a symphony cacophony of concrete. A visitor commented (relating to the clubhouses) that if there was a prize for the most characterless architecture then it would surely win first prize. Hard to disagree.

    I was in Greystones for the first time last weekend. Was going for dinner at Jaipur but as we had no idea about parking we pulled in at the marina. Agree about the concrete look, very industrial feel about it almost like a mini port without the 40 ft containers. The village is nice I must admit but the marina could be improved upon.


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    #3023
    pixbyjohn
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    26455826522_75e40d728e_c.jpgThe Bawn right of way to harbour by Pixbyjohn, on Flickr


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    #3024
    Harry Kane
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭Harry Kane


    Nothing surprises me about the conduct of Sisks during this protracted development. Wicklow County Council as the supposed planning authority have allowed Sisks to change the project without question. They have been allowed to build houses on top of the rat infested old town dump by the Council without question to generate even more private gain. The taking away of The Bawn right of way is yet another example of Sisks doing exactly what they want at the expense of the general public.


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    #3025
    Zoo4m8
    Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Zoo4m8


    John, why do you think it's threatened? The sign says no vehicle access but appears to indicate the pedestrian right of way. I haven't been down there for a while and am struggling to remember the original layout, there might have been vehicle access back when God was a teenager, wasn't there a gate at the bottom of the Bawn beside Paddy Doyle's house? This led into a field that subsequently became Johnny Burke's yard at which time it was probably walled off.
    I think if a right of way falls into disuse, and I could be very wrong on this!, after twenty years it can be extinguished , but it can't just be closed up, as far as I know there has to be a public consultation process...so my understanding of the process is if there was a quiet attempt to close this and there was a desire to keep it open that action would need to be taken..


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    #3026
    pixbyjohn
    Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    Zoo4m8 wrote: »
    John, why do you think it's threatened?
    Because I have been talking to a resident of the Bawn and he told me. There is communication between residents and Wicklow County Council regarding the right of way.


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    #3027
    Zoo4m8
    Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Zoo4m8


    Very good, I know what you're saying..


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    #3028
    Harry Bosch
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Harry Bosch


    Shint0 wrote: »
    I was in Greystones for the first time last weekend. Was going for dinner at Jaipur but as we had no idea about parking we pulled in at the marina. Agree about the concrete look, very industrial feel about it almost like a mini port without the 40 ft containers. The village is nice I must admit but the marina could be improved upon.

    It could. Maybe by using a small tactical nuclear device.


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    #3029
    pixbyjohn
    Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    26284961273_551e153a1f_c.jpgGreystones Harbour Plaza by Pixbyjohn, on Flickr


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    #3030
    Cookie_Monster
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    are tehy some sort of pine / conifer? seems an odd choice of tree to go into a public space like that. A lot of sap and needles everywhere...


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    #3031
    legrand
    Registered Users Posts: 679 ✭✭✭legrand


    ^^^
    Sap and needles are the least of the problem.
    Last evening it was ankle deep in litter around the bins providing a feast for our avian friends who in turn spread the litter further afield. In typical Irish style no one could figure out that if a bin is full then the right think to do is take their litter home. But that will never happen in this country sadly.


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