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FTP - Functional Threshold Power....how big is yours!!

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  • #352
    slatanic
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭slatanic


    tunney wrote: »
    Quoting a quote means no one can use your table and it it will get lost @slatanic

    Sorry, I didnt realise. I will delete post & try again.


  • #353
    slatanic
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭slatanic


    User|Starting FTP|Current FTP|Watts/kg|Target FTP|Target Watts/kg|Test|Unit
    Jackyback|298watts|278watts|4.08|320watts|5.00|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    NWM2|285watts|327watts|3.9|310watts|3.7|40k TT|Powertap SL+
    pgibbo|232watts|279watts|3.9|300watts|4.35|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    Fazz|255 watts|300 watts|4.51|315 watts|4.75|T5+T20*0.95|Lemond/Quarq
    Nerraw|216 watts|216 watts|3.33|280 watts|4.3|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    shotgunmcos|318 watts|325 watts|4.23|330watts|4.4|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    RedB|230 watts|230 watts|2.55|290 watts|3.5|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    BennyMul| 253 watts |231 watts |3.3|270watts|4|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap SL2+
    Bobblehead_jr|345 watts|345 watts|4.9|390 watts|5.6|T5+T20*0.95| iBike iPro
    Macanri|237 watts|237 watts|3.22|?280watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow T2200
    Bambaata|322 watts|319 watts|4|350watts|4.6|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    dx22|239 watts|287 watts|3.63|300watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    d4r3n|189 watts|210 watts|3.68|240 watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap
    couerdelion|252 watts|299 watts|2.85|315 watts|3.50|T5+T20*.95|Cycleops Magneto + Trainer Road
    bryangiggsy|221 watts|253 watts|3.24|290 watts|3.84|T5+T20*.95|SRM
    Briando|233 watts|233 watts|2.98|280 watts|3.58|T5+T20*.95|Power2Max
    Amphkingwest|185 watts|203.3 watts|2.36|300 watts|3.79|T5+T20*.95|Polar / LOOK
    duffyshuffle|272 watts|272 watts|2.81|325 watts|3.61|T5+T20*.95|PowerTap
    slatanic|200 watts|223 watts|3.76| 230watts|3.9|T5+T20*.95|P2M
    Tranche|211 watts|211 watts|3.11| 265watts|3.9|T5+T20*.95|P2M


  • #354
    sconhome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    User|Starting FTP|Current FTP|Watts/kg|Target FTP|Target Watts/kg|Test|Unit
    Jackyback|298watts|278watts|4.08|320watts|5.00|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    NWM2|285watts|327watts|3.9|310watts|3.7|40k TT|Powertap SL+
    pgibbo|232watts|279watts|3.9|300watts|4.35|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    Fazz|255 watts|300 watts|4.51|315 watts|4.75|T5+T20*0.95|Lemond/Quarq
    Nerraw|216 watts|216 watts|3.33|280 watts|4.3|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    shotgunmcos|318 watts|325 watts|4.23|330watts|4.4|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    RedB|230 watts|230 watts|2.55|290 watts|3.5|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    BennyMul| 253 watts |231 watts |3.3|270watts|4|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap SL2+
    Bobblehead_jr|345 watts|345 watts|4.9|390 watts|5.6|T5+T20*0.95| iBike iPro
    Macanri|237 watts|237 watts|3.22|?280watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow T2200
    Bambaata|322 watts|319 watts|4|350watts|4.6|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    dx22|239 watts|287 watts|3.63|300watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    d4r3n|189 watts|210 watts|3.68|240 watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap
    couerdelion|252 watts|299 watts|2.85|315 watts|3.50|T5+T20*.95|Cycleops Magneto + Trainer Road
    bryangiggsy|221 watts|253 watts|3.24|290 watts|3.84|T5+T20*.95|SRM
    Briando|233 watts|233 watts|2.98|280 watts|3.58|T5+T20*.95|Power2Max
    Amphkingwest|185 watts|235.6 watts|2.78|300 watts|3.79|T5+T20*.95|Polar / LOOK
    duffyshuffle|272 watts|272 watts|2.81|325 watts|3.61|T5+T20*.95|PowerTap
    slatanic|200 watts|223 watts|3.76| 230watts|3.9|T5+T20*.95|P2M
    Tranche|211 watts|211 watts|3.11| 265watts|3.9|T5+T20*.95|P2M


    Still way behind on the w/kg but am happy with the way this is all shaping up :)

    Now if I lost a few kg's I'd see a bit difference on the road.


  • #355
    slatanic
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭slatanic


    User|Starting FTP|Current FTP|Watts/kg|Target FTP|Target Watts/kg|Test|Unit
    Jackyback|298watts|278watts|4.08|320watts|5.00|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    NWM2|285watts|327watts|3.9|310watts|3.7|40k TT|Powertap SL+
    pgibbo|232watts|279watts|3.9|300watts|4.35|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    Fazz|255 watts|300 watts|4.51|315 watts|4.75|T5+T20*0.95|Lemond/Quarq
    Nerraw|216 watts|216 watts|3.33|280 watts|4.3|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    shotgunmcos|318 watts|325 watts|4.23|330watts|4.4|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    RedB|230 watts|230 watts|2.55|290 watts|3.5|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    BennyMul| 253 watts |231 watts |3.3|270watts|4|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap SL2+
    Bobblehead_jr|345 watts|345 watts|4.9|390 watts|5.6|T5+T20*0.95| iBike iPro
    Macanri|237 watts|237 watts|3.22|?280watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow T2200
    Bambaata|322 watts|319 watts|4|350watts|4.6|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    dx22|239 watts|287 watts|3.63|300watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    d4r3n|189 watts|210 watts|3.68|240 watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap
    couerdelion|252 watts|299 watts|2.85|315 watts|3.50|T5+T20*.95|Cycleops Magneto + Trainer Road
    bryangiggsy|221 watts|253 watts|3.24|290 watts|3.84|T5+T20*.95|SRM
    Briando|233 watts|233 watts|2.98|280 watts|3.58|T5+T20*.95|Power2Max
    Amphkingwest|185 watts|235.6 watts|2.78|300 watts|3.79|T5+T20*.95|Polar / LOOK
    duffyshuffle|272 watts|272 watts|2.81|325 watts|3.61|T5+T20*.95|PowerTap
    slatanic|200 watts|238 watts|4.01| 250watts|4.2|T5+T20*.95|P2M
    Tranche|211 watts|211 watts|3.11| 265watts|3.9|T5+T20*.95|P2M


    Doing club TT's over the last month is paying off.


  • #356
    pgibbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭pgibbo


    Has anyone done their test on the road or does everyone do them on the turbo?

    I have a test coming up and with the good weather I'm tempted to try it outdoors. Thoughts?


  • #357
    slatanic
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭slatanic


    I did my last one on the road & found it much easier (If that's the word) than the garage. Easier to concentrate on maintaining an effort & nicer in the fresh air.


  • #358
    Bambaata
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    pgibbo wrote: »
    Has anyone done their test on the road or does everyone do them on the turbo?

    I have a test coming up and with the good weather I'm tempted to try it outdoors. Thoughts?

    Never done it formally outdoors but i would expect turbo to be slightly higher given there is zero freewheeling. I did 340 for 30mins last Saturday on the road so thats probably my nearest "FTP" test outdoors. Reckon im at about 330-335 now as that wasnt done 100%


  • #359
    hf4z6sqo7vjngi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    pgibbo wrote: »
    Has anyone done their test on the road or does everyone do them on the turbo?

    I have a test coming up and with the good weather I'm tempted to try it outdoors. Thoughts?

    I would always do on the turbo tbh as its repeatable and in controlled conditions for comparing against previous testing. Freewheeling and other idiots on the road could impact testing outdoors.


  • #360
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Generally when I peel myself off the bike after 20mins I am in no condition to be on a road..


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  • #361
    Bambaata
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    Thats a good point by mloc. I generally have to lie down for 2 to 3 mins after an FTP as i physically cannot sit on the bike any longer as i feel sick, dizzy and would fall off if i stayed on it! I cant imagine doing that outdoors. I generally lie on the couch for 2 or 3 mins and then get into a cool-down


  • #362
    woody1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭woody1


    set the turbo up outside ?


  • #363
    pgibbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭pgibbo


    Cheers folks. All valid points and mloc's had crossed my mind. Turbo set up outside is a good option :D


  • #364
    slatanic
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭slatanic


    Would possibly half the current value of your house though.......... Someone dying on a Turbo Trainer out the front of the house wont win admiring glances........


  • #365
    pgibbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭pgibbo


    slatanic wrote: »
    Would possibly half the current value of your house though.......... Someone dying on a Turbo Trainer out the front of the house wont win admiring glances........

    Good job I have a big back garden that's not visible from the road at the front ;)

    Not so good when I have to cut the damn lawn though :D


  • #366
    pgibbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭pgibbo


    User|Starting FTP|Current FTP|Watts/kg|Target FTP|Target Watts/kg|Test|Unit
    Jackyback|298watts|278watts|4.08|320watts|5.00|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    NWM2|285watts|327watts|3.9|310watts|3.7|40k TT|Powertap SL+
    pgibbo|232watts|292watts|4.1|300watts|4.35|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    Fazz|255 watts|300 watts|4.51|315 watts|4.75|T5+T20*0.95|Lemond/Quarq
    Nerraw|216 watts|216 watts|3.33|280 watts|4.3|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    shotgunmcos|318 watts|325 watts|4.23|330watts|4.4|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    RedB|230 watts|230 watts|2.55|290 watts|3.5|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    BennyMul| 253 watts |231 watts |3.3|270watts|4|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap SL2+
    Bobblehead_jr|345 watts|345 watts|4.9|390 watts|5.6|T5+T20*0.95| iBike iPro
    Macanri|237 watts|237 watts|3.22|?280watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow T2200
    Bambaata|322 watts|319 watts|4|350watts|4.6|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    dx22|239 watts|287 watts|3.63|300watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    d4r3n|189 watts|210 watts|3.68|240 watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap
    couerdelion|252 watts|299 watts|2.85|315 watts|3.50|T5+T20*.95|Cycleops Magneto + Trainer Road
    bryangiggsy|221 watts|253 watts|3.24|290 watts|3.84|T5+T20*.95|SRM
    Briando|233 watts|233 watts|2.98|280 watts|3.58|T5+T20*.95|Power2Max
    Amphkingwest|185 watts|235.6 watts|2.78|300 watts|3.79|T5+T20*.95|Polar / LOOK
    duffyshuffle|272 watts|272 watts|2.81|325 watts|3.61|T5+T20*.95|PowerTap
    slatanic|200 watts|238 watts|4.01| 250watts|4.2|T5+T20*.95|P2M
    Tranche|211 watts|211 watts|3.11| 265watts|3.9|T5+T20*.95|P2M
    El Director|287 watts|287 watts|3.7|300watts|4|T5+T20*.95|Quarq SRAM Red


    Against all advice I did this on the road. I had planned to do it on the turbo in the garden but the evening was just too nice. When my OH said it's a lovely evening for a cycle, my mind was made up. First time to hold over 300W for 20mins so very happy with that. Small gains but they all add up :D


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  • #367
    hf4z6sqo7vjngi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Well done Paul, serious improvement.


  • #368
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    Nice work Paul, well done!

    BTW just noticed that I've been deleted from the table :rolleyes: am I really that much of a threat! :D


  • #369
    pgibbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭pgibbo


    El Director wrote: »
    BTW just noticed that I've been deleted from the table :rolleyes: am I really that much of a threat! :D

    Fixed that for you! :D


  • #370
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    pgibbo wrote: »
    Fixed that for you! :D

    haha cheers...to lazy to do it myself!


  • #371
    dx22
    Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭dx22


    User|Starting FTP|Current FTP|Watts/kg|Target FTP|Target Watts/kg|Test|Unit
    Jackyback|298watts|278watts|4.08|320watts|5.00|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    NWM2|285watts|327watts|3.9|310watts|3.7|40k TT|Powertap SL+
    pgibbo|232watts|292watts|4.1|300watts|4.35|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    Fazz|255 watts|300 watts|4.51|315 watts|4.75|T5+T20*0.95|Lemond/Quarq
    Nerraw|216 watts|216 watts|3.33|280 watts|4.3|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    shotgunmcos|318 watts|325 watts|4.23|330watts|4.4|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    RedB|230 watts|230 watts|2.55|290 watts|3.5|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    BennyMul| 253 watts |231 watts |3.3|270watts|4|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap SL2+
    Bobblehead_jr|345 watts|345 watts|4.9|390 watts|5.6|T5+T20*0.95| iBike iPro
    Macanri|237 watts|237 watts|3.22|?280watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow T2200
    Bambaata|322 watts|319 watts|4|350watts|4.6|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    dx22|239 watts|301 watts|3.88|300watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    d4r3n|189 watts|210 watts|3.68|240 watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap
    couerdelion|252 watts|299 watts|2.85|315 watts|3.50|T5+T20*.95|Cycleops Magneto + Trainer Road
    bryangiggsy|221 watts|253 watts|3.24|290 watts|3.84|T5+T20*.95|SRM
    Briando|233 watts|233 watts|2.98|280 watts|3.58|T5+T20*.95|Power2Max
    Amphkingwest|185 watts|235.6 watts|2.78|300 watts|3.79|T5+T20*.95|Polar / LOOK
    duffyshuffle|272 watts|272 watts|2.81|325 watts|3.61|T5+T20*.95|PowerTap
    slatanic|200 watts|238 watts|4.01| 250watts|4.2|T5+T20*.95|P2M
    Tranche|211 watts|211 watts|3.11| 265watts|3.9|T5+T20*.95|P2M
    El Director|287 watts|287 watts|3.7|300watts|4|T5+T20*.95|Quarq SRAM Red


    Hit my FTP target woo hoo! If i could be bothered to eat properly and just lose 5 pounds my w/kg would be over 4.0, that will be the next target


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  • #372
    Briando
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭Briando


    User|Starting FTP|Current FTP|Watts/kg|Target FTP|Target Watts/kg|Test|Unit
    Jackyback|298watts|278watts|4.08|320watts|5.00|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    NWM2|285watts|327watts|3.9|310watts|3.7|40k TT|Powertap SL+
    pgibbo|232watts|292watts|4.1|300watts|4.35|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    Fazz|255 watts|300 watts|4.51|315 watts|4.75|T5+T20*0.95|Lemond/Quarq
    Nerraw|216 watts|216 watts|3.33|280 watts|4.3|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    shotgunmcos|318 watts|325 watts|4.23|330watts|4.4|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    RedB|230 watts|230 watts|2.55|290 watts|3.5|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    BennyMul| 253 watts |231 watts |3.3|270watts|4|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap SL2+
    Bobblehead_jr|345 watts|345 watts|4.9|390 watts|5.6|T5+T20*0.95| iBike iPro
    Macanri|237 watts|237 watts|3.22|?280watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow T2200
    Bambaata|322 watts|319 watts|4|350watts|4.6|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    dx22|239 watts|301 watts|3.88|300watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    d4r3n|189 watts|210 watts|3.68|240 watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap
    couerdelion|252 watts|299 watts|2.85|315 watts|3.50|T5+T20*.95|Cycleops Magneto + Trainer Road
    bryangiggsy|221 watts|253 watts|3.24|290 watts|3.84|T5+T20*.95|SRM
    Briando|233 watts|284 watts|3.79|280 watts|3.58|40km TT|Power2Max
    Amphkingwest|185 watts|235.6 watts|2.78|300 watts|3.79|T5+T20*.95|Polar / LOOK
    duffyshuffle|272 watts|272 watts|2.81|325 watts|3.61|T5+T20*.95|PowerTap
    slatanic|200 watts|238 watts|4.01| 250watts|4.2|T5+T20*.95|P2M
    Tranche|211 watts|211 watts|3.11| 265watts|3.9|T5+T20*.95|P2M
    El Director|287 watts|287 watts|3.7|300watts|4|T5+T20*.95|Quarq SRAM Red

    Broke the hour for 40km and improved my watts. Still feel I've a lot more potential.


  • #373
    Casula
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭Casula


    Briando wrote: »
    User|Starting FTP|Current FTP|Watts/kg|Target FTP|Target Watts/kg|Test|Unit
    Jackyback|298watts|278watts|4.08|320watts|5.00|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    NWM2|285watts|327watts|3.9|310watts|3.7|40k TT|Powertap SL+
    pgibbo|232watts|292watts|4.1|300watts|4.35|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    Fazz|255 watts|300 watts|4.51|315 watts|4.75|T5+T20*0.95|Lemond/Quarq
    Nerraw|216 watts|216 watts|3.33|280 watts|4.3|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    shotgunmcos|318 watts|325 watts|4.23|330watts|4.4|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    RedB|230 watts|230 watts|2.55|290 watts|3.5|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    BennyMul| 253 watts |231 watts |3.3|270watts|4|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap SL2+
    Bobblehead_jr|345 watts|345 watts|4.9|390 watts|5.6|T5+T20*0.95| iBike iPro
    Macanri|237 watts|237 watts|3.22|?280watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow T2200
    Bambaata|322 watts|319 watts|4|350watts|4.6|T5+T20*0.95|Power2Max PM
    dx22|239 watts|301 watts|3.88|300watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Tacx Flow
    d4r3n|189 watts|210 watts|3.68|240 watts|4.0|T5+T20*0.95|Powertap
    couerdelion|252 watts|299 watts|2.85|315 watts|3.50|T5+T20*.95|Cycleops Magneto + Trainer Road
    bryangiggsy|221 watts|253 watts|3.24|290 watts|3.84|T5+T20*.95|SRM
    Briando|233 watts|284 watts|3.79|280 watts|3.58|40km TT|Power2Max
    Amphkingwest|185 watts|235.6 watts|2.78|300 watts|3.79|T5+T20*.95|Polar / LOOK
    duffyshuffle|272 watts|272 watts|2.81|325 watts|3.61|T5+T20*.95|PowerTap
    slatanic|200 watts|238 watts|4.01| 250watts|4.2|T5+T20*.95|P2M
    Tranche|211 watts|211 watts|3.11| 265watts|3.9|T5+T20*.95|P2M
    El Director|287 watts|287 watts|3.7|300watts|4|T5+T20*.95|Quarq SRAM Red

    Broke the hour for 40km and improved my watts. Still feel I've a lot more potential.

    Anyone have any views on the following two important issues:

    1. Now that race season is over and bike strength is at or near peak, is it worthwhile trying to improve FTP over winter (as opposed to defaulting back to low intensity base work)?

    2. Assuming the answer to 1 is yes, for those on this thread who saw FTP improvements, what advice can you provide on how best to go about making such progress? I'm a recent convert to trainerroad so planning to use it in trying to improve FTP.


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