BusConnects Dublin - Big changes to Bus Network

Spanish Eyes · 30-11-2019 5:03pm

2050 at the earliest for this! Sorry for being so negative, but honestly, with the humungous time frame projected as it is, I'm not feeling very positive.

Great thread, thanks for all the contributions. I am very fortunate to live on one of the premier bus lane routes into the city, so not too much change for me. However, further up the line there will be, and I suppose change will be opposed if it is not evident right now, that the changes will improve things.

So onwards and upwards and trees, and villages and so on.

tom1ie · 01-12-2019 7:17pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

2050 at the earliest for this! Sorry for being so negative, but honestly, with the humungous time frame projected as it is, I'm not feeling very positive.

Great thread, thanks for all the contributions. I am very fortunate to live on one of the premier bus lane routes into the city, so not too much change for me. However, further up the line there will be, and I suppose change will be opposed if it is not evident right now, that the changes will improve things.

So onwards and upwards and trees, and villages and so on.

2050? Where has that date come from? That couldn’t be right could it?!!

Cookie_Monster · 02-12-2019 8:55am

tom1ie wrote: »

2050? Where has that date come from? That couldn’t be right could it?!!

like the way the metro was proposed in the 80ies and still isnt built... :pac:

Peregrine · 02-12-2019 12:43pm

Ruth Coppinger was not happy at being found out to be lying about BusConnects. She's been handing out leaflets, holding demonstrations and posting on social media all based on wrong information. You'd wonder how many more of them are at it.

You'll have to read the whole thread.

https://twitter.com/DublinCommuters/status/1200798658016489483?s=20

https://twitter.com/RuthCoppingerTD/status/1200869439249567747?s=20

devnull · 02-12-2019 1:20pm

Peregrine wrote: »

Ruth Coppinger was not happy at being found out to be lying about BusConnects. She's been handing out leaflets, holding demonstrations and posting on social media all based on wrong information. You'd wonder how many more of them are at it.

You'll have to read the whole thread.

https://twitter.com/DublinCommuters/status/1200798658016489483?s=20

https://twitter.com/RuthCoppingerTD/status/1200869439249567747?s=20

Have to remember the fact that a large part of the previous campaign by the Socialist Party or whatever they are called now was to support the NBRU members interests rather than true concern for the public and they were using misinformation to the public in order to assist the NBRU.

Go-Ahead have the contact for almost all the orbital and local routes and Dublin Bus have the direct city services routes. The NBRU only represent members in Dublin Bus and not Go Ahead Ireland. Therefore loss of direct city service will effect their members. This is their true motivation.

SIPTU represent members in both Dublin Bus and Go Ahead Ireland and you will notice that they are very quiet about things in comparison and you will notice in the original announcement, were not supplying left wing TDs with propaganda materials to use in meetings like the NBRU did last time.

L1011 · 02-12-2019 1:40pm

SIPTU have an official political party (re-confirmed, just about, a few years ago) still - something other parties that might want the same audience are quite bitter about.

Dravokivich · 02-12-2019 4:05pm

Well, at least she isn't using kids to hold up her posters anymore.

Jamie2k9 · 02-12-2019 11:26pm

The NBRU object to everything. You can never please them, I can't think of anything they have said yes its a good idea there is always an objection or concern.

Idbatterim · 03-12-2019 7:15pm

I took the bus into town for a quick meeting today around 3pm. Not happening again, I am going back to driving in. Do the buses actually have to stop every few seconds, do they really need to be so ridiculously close? why not just drop everyone to the door on the route? :rolleyes: Then there is the interaction with the driver, paying etc, totally ridiculous! It should be totally cashless and needs to be asap!

Zebra3 · 03-12-2019 9:52pm

The current cashless system is too slow.

If five people get on and want to pay cashless, there's usually a queue going out the bus and it's delayed anyway.

Polar101 · 04-12-2019 1:45am

Peregrine wrote: »

Ruth Coppinger was not happy at being found out to be lying about BusConnects.

This is pretty depressing - she wants to "save" the 38 which takes 1.5 hours to/from the city. I take the 38's daily and I definitely won't be sad to see them go. This is why I don't think the BusConnects will actually ever happen - there are too many people concerned about front gardens and parking, and then you have the Coppingers who just say no to any change, without actually knowing what they are talking about. I actually thought Coppinger was a good local politician, but I've changed my mind now.

dublinman1990 · 04-12-2019 2:41am

There was a rumour from Cityswift's Flickr account during the weekend that the current PSO livery from the NTA will be changed again in 2020.

devnull · 04-12-2019 8:26am

dublinman1990 wrote: »

There was a rumour from Cityswift's Flickr account during the weekend that the current PSO livery from the NTA will be changed again in 2020.

Yes. It's still to be confirmed exactly what it will look like but follows discussions with other stakeholders such as groups and operators who are said to have views on current livery for various reasons and how acceptable it is in their view.

p_haugh · 04-12-2019 9:01am

dublinman1990 wrote: »

There was a rumour from Cityswift's Flickr account during the weekend that the current PSO livery from the NTA will be changed again in 2020.

That's some good news to hear!

dublinman1990 · 04-12-2019 5:59pm

Is the blue being taken out of the livery altogether or is it being kept with a new colour variation?

CatInABox · 08-12-2019 12:35am

The RTPI system seems to be getting some upgrades. Hopefully this makes it easier to roll out to more stops.

https://twitter.com/DublinCommuters/status/1203456916418117633

devnull · 08-12-2019 12:46am

CatInABox wrote: »

The RTPI system seems to be getting some upgrades. Hopefully this makes it easier to roll out to more stops.

https://twitter.com/DublinCommuters/status/1203456916418117633

Believe it's just a trial at the moment.

Cookie_Monster · 08-12-2019 12:47am

how long will they last I wonder

donvito99 · 08-12-2019 12:50am

At that height it is much easier to deface/stick stickers all over.

Also appears to be showing both inbound and outbound buses at an outbound stop?

strandroad · 08-12-2019 1:03am

CatInABox wrote: »

The RTPI system seems to be getting some upgrades. Hopefully this makes it easier to roll out to more stops.

You can see the minutes from a distance now, this takes it away, why?

Joker2019 · 08-12-2019 1:32am

Could be useful as stops without an RTPI display on bus stop poles or built into the shelter can't much use for in addition to an RTPI pole

p_haugh · 08-12-2019 1:45am

That looks like it’s attached to the existing rtpi pole, so it could be they still have the one up top as well?

cherryghost · 08-12-2019 2:02am

p_haugh wrote: »

That looks like it’s attached to the existing rtpi pole, so it could be they still have the one up top as well?

Yeah, its for people with sore necks

p_haugh · 08-12-2019 2:35am

Found another tweet about this, the existing RTPI screen is in fact still there:

https://twitter.com/e_slat/status/1203455967960145920

Breezer · 08-12-2019 4:29am

I don’t understand the point in this. I mean it’s nice, but it doesn’t add anything to the existing displays. Why not roll out the existing technology to more stops?

StreetLight · 08-12-2019 10:06am

Breezer wrote: »

I don’t understand the point in this. I mean it’s nice, but it doesn’t add anything to the existing displays. Why not roll out the existing technology to more stops?

Maybe the lower height display is better for wheelchair users?

Breezer · 08-12-2019 3:05pm

StreetLight wrote: »

Maybe the lower height display is better for wheelchair users?

Maybe. I’d have my doubts though, unless they also have a neck problem. I can see the higher ones fine when sitting at a shelter. Having said this, I am not a wheelchair user, and am open to being corrected.

I guess they show more info than the existing displays.

CatInABox · 08-12-2019 3:29pm

Here are some things that I'd see as a positive:

They show more buses than the current displays
They're easier to read for people with sight issues
They have a button for an audio announcement for people with severe sight issues
They could also display things other than the schedule, such as a local map, etc

Speculating here, but these are also very similar to the e ink displays used elsewhere that are solar powered. Not sure how viable those would be in Ireland, could a small solar panel run an e ink display, low power computer and a cellular modem? If it worked, it'd make the roll out of these things everywhere a snap.

There's downsides as well of course, but these do look pretty good to me.

Sam Russell · 08-12-2019 3:36pm

Are these new displays cheaper to deploy?

Are they vandal proof?

AndrewJRenko · 09-12-2019 11:15pm

Deadline is imminent;

https://twitter.com/DublinCommuters/status/1203979012906860544

BusConnects Dublin - Big changes to Bus Network

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