David Icke, is he for real or trolling people?

Lizard people, would be way cooler to see that they are dinosaur people that didn't evolve and are ruling the world.

Dinosaurs= cool
Lizard = meh

He sure is making a lot of cash...

MMyers wrote: »

I think he tells a lot of truth mixed in with some ludicrous stuff.

Other way round

Most conspiracy theorists I've come across seem fixated on the notion that there are large interconnected elite pedo-rings. Every time someone powerful or rich is caught that's more "evidence" of these global pedo conspiracies. And like most conspiracy theorists, Icke uses (abuses) a small amount of truth to hint at unsubstantiated conspiracies

MMyers wrote: »

I can't look at a Hollywood legend without wondering if they're part of that abuse.

This is why you're the target audience for people like Icke

Icke and co take individual cases like the above to imply it's going on on some systemic scale.

I'm disturbed that he has a forum at all. creating conspiracy theories is as easy as...

Business control of the socialisation process:
Every society engages in socialising processes in order to generate homogeny and so as to assure a smooth transition from childhood to adulthood. In the west this process has become tightly controlled by business interests with a view toward maintaining and enlarging business’ control of the state. With the rise of technology and in trawl to business-science research this control of the socialising process stands to become ever more invasive. Your behaviour and opinions are already extensively monitored by moneyed interests who’s only desire is to control these behaviour and opinions.
The socialisation process has, in the past, proceeded in staggered cycles as follows:
1. Perception management: systematically confusing the general population with a view to manipulating its behaviour has been official American government policy since the 1960s at least. Europe has since followed suite.
2. Programming of persons of low cognitive and emotional intelligence: people of low cognitive and emotional intelligence solicited by pandering to their claimed emotional needs (i.e. your opinions are valid, your enemies are our enemies, we care about your needs). The psyche of the target is imagined as being like a programmable computer, a false account of reality is intimated, the target is provided with the purported means and justification for acting to undermine the wellbeing of others (typically potential dissenters and authorities not directly associated with business capital. Religion, free thinkers, political opposition and conscientious citizens have all been set as targets, slandered, isolated and their health adversely effected in this way. This method is especially effective against the young because the programming is claimed to be necessary to be viewed as an adult. Peers often unknowingly aid in this programming process mistakenly under the impression that they are assisting their friend.
3. Business provides solution to the problem it caused: In order to appear as an authority and so as to associate itself with civil responsibility generally, Business now steps in, providing ready solutions to the simple life problems that business itself caused. The cycle is repeated, but a qualitative change has occurred: business interests have been enlarged, traditional centres of dissent weakened and society has become more fractured.
What you can do:
Mistrust business. Abstain from all socialising behaviours. Contribute to and vote for a left-wing party. You have no social obligations other than to enjoy yourself ethically, there are no psychical quantities other than the inside of your own head.

Reading about how his career changed and the events that led to that. It is consistent with descriptions of microwave weapons.

TheSpooner wrote: »

Oh, you haven't been keeping up with your conspiracies. Looks like the tinfoilers may be telling the truth.

That David Icke was subjected to some kind of microwave weapon in the late-eighties that turned him into a moonbat?

TheSpooner wrote: »

Well, he came out with this statement:


"In the years 1989 and 1990, David began to believe that some kind of presence was following him around, like “an electro-magnetic field that you can feel but can’t see”. On one occasion, he was browsing in a bookshop when he had an odd experience.

“It was like my feet were stuck to the ground and I felt this energy around me, which I now know was an electro-magnetic field. It wasn’t a voice but all I heard, a very strong thought formed, go and look at the books at the far side.”"

How do you know that this is an effect of mircowave weapons and how does this lead to him believing in lizard people?

Why would they do this to some random ex-soccer player?

Why can't he just be wrong?

I wouldn't say that its exclusive, but let's look at what else happened:

"Despite his successful media career, Icke wrote that 1989 was a time of considerable personal despair, and it was during this period that he said he began to feel a presence around him.[58] He often describes how he felt it while alone in a hotel room in March 1990, and finally asked: "If there is anybody here, will you please contact me because you are driving me up the wall!" Days later, in a newsagent's shop in Ryde, he felt a force pull his feet to the ground and heard a voice guide him toward some books. One of them was Mind to Mind (1989) by Betty Shine, a psychic healer in Brighton. He read the book, then wrote to her requesting a consultation about his arthritis."

I'll post the links later, but there is some suggestion that some of these microwave weapons are a form of brain computer interface between a human and a classified AI. Of which nation, I am unsure at this point. But it seems he was directed to the book "Mind to Mind" deliberately.

He then goes on:

"In February 1991 Icke visited a pre-Inca Sillustani burial ground near Puno, Peru, where he felt drawn to a particular circle of waist-high stones. As he stood in the circle he had two thoughts: that people would be talking about this in 100 years, and that it would be over when it rained. His body shook as though plugged into an electrical socket, he wrote, and new ideas poured into him. Then it started raining and the experience ended."

Certainly seems to suggest some form of power beaming that was experiencing rain fade.

At this time, the Green Party was dominating in the EU...

"In the 1989 European elections, it surprised everyone by getting 2.3 million votes – some 15 per cent of the total. But Sara Parkin, who led it to victory, had already warned that it was “ill-prepared to handle any growth that came its way”."

By the time David Icke's exploits had saturated the media, this collapsed:

"The infighting and insanities continued and the vote in the 1992 election collapsed to 171,000."

So, it may be little to do with Icke himself, but rather the EU and Green Party.