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Championship and Covid

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    #2702
    Hammer Archer
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    What if the other half of the draw is still at the semi-final stage though? You are in your first final in 60 years but the opposition hasn't been decided yet. It would seem incredibly harsh for that to be cancelled on you.
    Sure it can be ran in just two weekends!
    (You know where this leads)
    I doubt that there are many counties who split their semi finals on separate weekends. Most, if not all, would play their semi finals on the same weekend.
    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Ahh sure it's at the quarter final stage. Just three weekends. Then there is an outbreak in one of the clubs and everything is put on hold again!!!!

    I can see the case where it is a straight final for the game to be played. Winner decided on the day scenario. Outbreak in one of the clubs the week of the game results in the game being awarded to the other side with no giving out or arguments would have to be case.
    If there was an outbreak in one of the clubs, then we'd have the same scenario if the 2021 championships were started.
    Lost Ormond wrote: »
    Because you then will have people going. If one team was in a final and there was just a semi final to be played and then its just a semi final and a final so 2 games in total and then its 2 semis and a final to be played etc etc.

    Easier and better to just say that the competitions for 2020 will be incomplete. If a competition hasnt reached the final then nobody is declared winner for 2020. If 2 teams have reached a final and it wasnt played then just share the trophy
    It might be tough on some clubs but thats life. These are unprecedented times. Think its far better to just move on with 2021 competitions
    With respect, that doesn't make sense. If a county wants to void their 2020 championship, then that's up to their county board and the clubs. But don't force every county to do so. 2021 championships (whenever they start) won't be started without any preparation. Whether it's league games or challenge games, clubs will have a few weeks preparation to get some game time under their belts. It would be very easy to fit unfinished 2020 championship finals (or even semi finals) into these preparation weeks.


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    #2703
    Enquiring
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    Hammer Archer wrote: »
    I think the reason why the GAA weren't too pushed on starting this season has been revealed:
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0216/1197433-gaa-suffers-34m-loss-despite-government-support/
    There's no way they'd be able to sustain similar losses this year.

    I think comments on restricting inter county panel numbers is a positive but they should also be looking at limiting back room staff as part of the attempt to cut spending on inter county preparations. There are a few counties spending far too much.

    That's a positive to take out of on obviously negative overall report. At best, there will be limited numbers allowed to attend matches at any stage this year so there will be more losses obviously. I think it might be best just to look at running club and county competitions from July onwards and put it off before then.


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    #2704
    Boom__Boom
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    Enquiring wrote: »
    I think comments on restricting inter county panel numbers is a positive but they should also be looking at limiting back room staff as part of the attempt to cut spending on inter county preparations. There are a few counties spending far too much.

    That's a positive to take out of on obviously negative overall report. At best, there will be limited numbers allowed to attend matches at any stage this year so there will be more losses obviously. I think it might be best just to look at running club and county competitions from July onwards and put it off before then.

    Some article a few months back mentioned a limit of 32 players for county panels and 9 for management/backroom staff - this was in terms of who would be allowed/eligible for expenses under the centrally administered mileage/food expenses. The article seemed to suggest that counties would be allowed have more than this but would have to meet the cost for any additional players or staff themselves as opposed to from central GAA funds .

    I remember thinking that there were probably a fair few counties [lower-tier hurling counties especially] where having expenses met for 32 players and 9 backroom staff would be an increase.


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    #2705
    PTH2009
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    Bit of a sad day

    https://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/315706


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    #2706
    wirelessdude01
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Bit of a sad day

    https://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/315706

    Passed by a few weeks ago and a lot of the adjoining units are also gone or in the process of being cleared.

    Students of DCU, Pats and Marino will have less places to go now whenever life gets back to normal.


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    #2707
    PTH2009
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    Seems to be no mention of the GAA getting the Elite status back

    So irritating that the GAA lifted the spirits last year and was a little thing to look forward too


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    #2708
    wirelessdude01
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Seems to be no mention of the GAA getting the Elite status back

    So irritating that the GAA lifted the spirits last year and was a little thing to look forward too

    No funding is available from government and no appetite from HQ to restart.


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    #2709
    Lost Ormond
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Seems to be no mention of the GAA getting the Elite status back

    So irritating that the GAA lifted the spirits last year and was a little thing to look forward too
    Very unlikely it will get it back.
    GAA in many ways was lucky to have the elite status when you looked at most of the other athletes who were regarded as elite - professional, mainly full time athletes who's sole work is the sport and are not going into all kinds of workplaces etc

    Not much appetite from GAA HQ either considering games would be behind closed doors so waiting longer in hope you can get some crowds in is probably a good thing


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    #2710
    dobman88
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    Tbf, under the new plan, all sport should be cancelled in level 5. Includes 6 nations rugby, LOI soccer and horse racing even behind closed doors. They are only exempt in level 4. Inter county GAA is also exempt under level 4 so they're right in line with pro sports and we have zero room to complain imo.

    It'll be interesting to see what goes ahead and when the new level 5 comes into effect.


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    #2711
    wirelessdude01
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    Tbf, under the new plan, all sport should be cancelled in level 5. Includes 6 nations rugby, LOI soccer and horse racing even behind closed doors. They are only exempt in level 4. Inter county GAA is also exempt under level 4 so they're right in line with pro sports and we have zero room to complain imo.

    It'll be interesting to see what goes ahead and when the new level 5 comes into effect.

    Taoiseach said at the presser that elite sports will be occurring.


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    #2712
    dobman88
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    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Taoiseach said at the presser that elite sports will be occurring.

    Yeah, I was just basing it on what was in the "living with covid" plan that Gav Reilly tweeted. See he followed up a few mins ago. Further evidence that they're still making it up as they go along.

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1364298394152415233?s=19


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    #2713
    dobman88
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    Also, I want the GAA back as much as the next person but you can't class it as elite sport because of the obvious fact that you cant isolate players and create bubbles like pro sports can. Its unfortunate but not a lot we can do.


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    #2714
    TCDStudent1
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    Also, I want the GAA back as much as the next person but you can't class it as elite sport because of the obvious fact that you cant isolate players and create bubbles like pro sports can. Its unfortunate but not a lot we can do.


    I agree with you but I find it hard to see how LoI can be classed as an elite sport. Maybe I am wrong but I would have assumed that there are quite a number of LoI players that are semi-professional with other jobs?


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    #2715
    PTH2009
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    Also, I want the GAA back as much as the next person but you can't class it as elite sport because of the obvious fact that you cant isolate players and create bubbles like pro sports can. Its unfortunate but not a lot we can do.

    It wasn't a problem last Autumn/Winter


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    #2716
    wirelessdude01
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    It wasn't a problem last Autumn/Winter

    If if hasn't quite made it onto your radar yet, things are a slight bit different now.


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    #2717
    dobman88
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    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    If if hasn't quite made it onto your radar yet, things are a slight bit different now.

    Thanks for saving me the bother. You'd have to wonder about some people at this stage.


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    #2718
    dobman88
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    TCDStudent1 wrote: »
    I agree with you but I find it hard to see how LoI can be classed as an elite sport. Maybe I am wrong but I would have assumed that there are quite a number of LoI players that are semi-professional with other jobs?

    Yeah, I agree. It's a shambles. Sure the lads making these decisions don't even know what they're at themselves.


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    #2719
    wirelessdude01
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    TCDStudent1 wrote: »
    I agree with you but I find it hard to see how LoI can be classed as an elite sport. Maybe I am wrong but I would have assumed that there are quite a number of LoI players that are semi-professional with other jobs?

    Upper end of the premier division would mostly be professional. I'd be quite familiar with Dundalk and they are all professional.

    Now the first division really can't be classified as professional in any sense.


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    #2720
    blowitupref
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    Club football back to level 3 restrictions. It will be the summer before such restrictions are in place. Inter County can go ahead in level 4 restrictions.

    A possibility of?

    NFL and NHL - May and June
    Club county championships July, August, September

    All Ireland football and hurling championships with some supporters at games in October, November, December.


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    #2721
    PTH2009
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    blowitupref wrote: »
    Club football back to level 3 restrictions. It will be the summer before such restrictions are in place. Inter County can go ahead in level 4 restrictions.

    A possibility of?

    NFL and NHL - May and June
    Club county championships July, August, September

    All Ireland football and hurling championships with some supporters at games in October, November, December.

    I'd accept that but think all inter county will be first with it over by September with clubs from then on. Provincial and All Ireland clubs will make a return but will spill into 2022

    Anyone's guess what will happen really


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    #2722
    Loafing Oaf
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    blowitupref wrote: »
    Club football back to level 3 restrictions. It will be the summer before such restrictions are in place. Inter County can go ahead in level 4 restrictions.

    A possibility of?

    NFL and NHL - May and June
    Club county championships July, August, September

    All Ireland football and hurling championships with some supporters at games in October, November, December.

    Would this be generally seen as preferable to dropping the leagues altogether and playing the inter-counties in the first half of summer and the club championships in the second half? Not sure many people would fancy another winter AIC, even if some spectators can attend...


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    #2723
    TCDStudent1
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Would this be generally seen as preferable to dropping the leagues altogether and playing the inter-counties in the first half of summer and the club championships in the second half? Not sure many people would fancy another winter AIC, even if some spectators can attend...


    I would think a winter championship is acceptable but only if crowds are back.


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    #2724
    blowitupref
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    I'd accept that but think all inter county will be first with it over by September with clubs from then on. Provincial and All Ireland clubs will make a return but will spill into 2022

    Anyone's guess what will happen really

    That's another possibility but I doubt they'll leave club teams that long waiting for championship action.

    On the inter County scene HQ are determined to get this B All-Ireland up and running and in order to do that they'll have to play some sort of league first, probably sticking with "Regional" NFL.


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    #2725
    dobman88
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    I'd accept that but think all inter county will be first with it over by September with clubs from then on. Provincial and All Ireland clubs will make a return but will spill into 2022

    Anyone's guess what will happen really

    I'm not sure it would be beneficial to let clubs go that late in the year when the evenings are getting darker and weather is getting worse. You'd have issues with unplayable pitches and floodlights which would mean trying to squeeze games into weekends which presents a problem with referee availability in some counties.

    I'd also be in favour of forgetting about provincial and club all Ireland again this year. Just get county championship back at some stage.


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    #2726
    PTH2009
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    The Leagues should of been starting this weekend

    Bloody virus


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    #2727
    rrs
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    Vaccine roll out still very slow https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0303/1200589-coronavirus-vaccine/

    The Johnson /Johnson one shot vaccine would help if it gets approved in April


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    #2728
    PTH2009
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    rrs wrote: »
    Vaccine roll out still very slow https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0303/1200589-coronavirus-vaccine/

    The Johnson /Johnson one shot vaccine would help if it gets approved in April

    Yeah hopefully

    Would of thought the GAA have a fixture list done up incorporating a few start dates


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    #2729
    PTH2009
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    Is this one of the longest breaks Intercounty players have had ? I'm sure there doing individual training at home but I doubt it's nothing compared to collective training

    Let's hope by this time next month the situation will be a lot clearer


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    #2730
    rrs
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    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0314/1203889-niac-recommends-suspension-of-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccin/


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    #2731
    arctictree
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    Lads, I heard of a national school giving football sessions twice a week to 5th and 6th class kids. It's basically the local u12 GAA team. Is this allowed under current rules?


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