Russia fires on Ukranian vessels

Muscles Schultz · 25-11-2018 9:31pm

https://youtu.be/8BUxGMbiMps

This is key for the Irish !

Gatling · 25-11-2018 9:31pm

European army doesn't sound so bad now ,

Russians and China on one said grabbing land ,oceans and resources ,

America on the other side

And a divided and weak Europe in the middle what possibly could go wrong

25-11-2018 9:34pm

Gatling wrote: »

European army doesn't sound so bad now ,

Russians and China on one said grabbing land ,oceans and resources ,

America on the other side

And a divided and weak Europe in the middle what possibly could go wrong

Is banging the drum for a European based military industrial complex going to move things along?

Gimme A Pound · 25-11-2018 9:35pm

mad muffin wrote: »

Fück Ukraine. Those nazi loving Cúnts.

Huh?

silverharp · 25-11-2018 9:37pm

will there will be panic buying of white pan bread tomorrow in dublin?

whisky_galore · 25-11-2018 9:38pm

mad muffin wrote: »

Fück Ukraine. Those nazi loving Cúnts.

Think you can put together quite a list of nations who cosied up to Hitler at one time or another.

Gringo180 · 25-11-2018 9:47pm

Gatling wrote: »

European army doesn't sound so bad now ,

Russians and China on one said grabbing land ,oceans and resources ,

America on the other side

And a divided and weak Europe in the middle what possibly could go wrong

Weak Europe? Britain and France have hundreds of Nuclear weapons. Lets not scaremonger us into joining a European army because I dont want my kids fighting any war for a foreign nation.

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 9:47pm

Conflicting reports about escalation in Donetsk.

Gatling · 25-11-2018 9:51pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

I dont want my kids fighting any war for a foreign nation.

But you'll expect other children from countries to fight for us.

But give them a keyboard .

I'm sure they will fight with key strokes

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 9:53pm

pri wrote: »

Do you mean this:

sputniknews.com/europe/201811251070123268-ukraine-donbass-shelling-heavy-artillery

No, other sources on twitter give differing accounts.

Wouldn't trust anything dot.ru at the moment.

And...

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1066797653785288715?s=19

Russian disinfo it seems

Gatling · 25-11-2018 9:54pm

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Conflicting reports about escalation in Donetsk.

That's a near daily and weekly occurance ,till we see something like attack helicopters and jets flying into Ukraine from Russia ,it will be business as usual .
Russian forces will fire artillery and mortors and Ukraine will return their own artillery and mortors

And then there's sputnik

SSr0 · 25-11-2018 9:54pm

Gatling wrote: »

But you'll expect other children from countries to fight for us.

But give them a keyboard .

I'm sure they will fight with key strokes

Hahahahahahahaha!! Says the keyboard GOC of Boards ffs

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 9:55pm

Gatling wrote: »

That's a near daily and weekly occurance ,till we see something like attack helicopters and jets flying into Ukraine from Russia ,it will be business as usual .
Russian forces will fire artillery and mortors and Ukraine will return their own artillery and mortors

And then there's sputnik

Yeah, I agree.

4068ac1elhodqr · 25-11-2018 9:57pm

Raheem Euro wrote: »

I think "nuclear winter" has been debunked hasnt it?

Yes someone did a sketch on A4 paper, and said about 6,000 (of the 22,000 global total) large ones (some each up to 100 megatons, making 'little boy' look very little) all going off...

- would only cause a minor interference with growing potatoes and trips to the seaside for candyfloss and rainbow spotting.

Gringo180 · 25-11-2018 9:59pm

Gatling wrote: »

But you'll expect other children from countries to fight for us.

But give them a keyboard .

I'm sure they will fight with key strokes

I wont expect anyone to fight for us. Nobody is ever and I mean ever going to invade Europe when France and the UK are sitting on enough nuclear warheads to end civilisation as we know it.

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 10:00pm

Raheem Euro wrote: »

I think "nuclear winter" has been debunked hasnt it?

No.

Raheem Euro · 25-11-2018 10:00pm

Belen Lazy Smallness wrote: »

Yes someone did a sketch on A4 paper, and said about 6,000 (of the 22,000 global total) large ones (some each up to 100 megatons, making 'little boy' look very little) all going off...

- would only cause a minor interference with growing potatoes and trips to the seaside for candyfloss and rainbow spotting.

Millions of strawmen will be radiated to death in micro seconds.

badtoro · 25-11-2018 10:02pm

Be terrible if that bridge got dropped, accidentally like, God knows what **** the Soviets dumped in those seas, bound to be some demolition explosive rolling around the bottom on the tides.

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 10:04pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

I wont expect anyone to fight for us. Nobody is ever and I mean ever going to invade Europe when France and the UK are sitting on enough nuclear warheads to end civilisation as we know it.

I suppose the more likely scenario would be a push up to the borders of EU. Still unlikely I think.

The threat as it is now is via economic sanctions/interference, meddling in elections and such, cyber attacks and proxy wars. All from both sides, to some extent or other.

4068ac1elhodqr · 25-11-2018 10:05pm

Raheem Euro wrote: »

Millions of strawmen will be radiated to death in micro seconds.

Anything made of straw really, and cotton, paper, concrete, steel.

Think the very largest 100mt wasn't tested as the jet up at high altitudes (dropping it with a parachute) still couldn't escape the resulting inferno and shockwave fast enough even at Mach1/2.

So they tested a smaller 50mt which broke someones window about 500 nautical miles away up in the arsehole regions of the siberian artic.

RobbingBandit · 25-11-2018 10:06pm

Send in bond Jimmy bond it's the hunt for Red November

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 10:08pm

From what I recall, the SU did have one bigger than the Tsar Bomba, but were too afraid to test it.

CinemaGuy45 · 25-11-2018 10:08pm

Armadildo wrote: »

I have nothing to live for and would be quite happy to see the world burn.

Speak for yourself if you were around guns going off I would say you would change your mind fast and you would probably need to change your pants too.

UrbanFret · 25-11-2018 10:09pm

Local schmozzle no need for outside interference.

Gringo180 · 25-11-2018 10:09pm

Its mad isnt it. This has happened no more than a couple of hours ago and some on here have the Russians invading mainland Europe and calling for a European army :pac:

Lets wait a bit and get some facts before pointing the finger at the big bad Russians. I want to know why they shot at the Ukranian vessels in the first place? Where they illegally in Russian waters?

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 10:10pm

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Speak for yourself if you were around guns going off I would say you would change your mind fast and you would probably need to change your pants too.

(S)he missed the chance to be in california recently. I'm sure another opportunity will present itself soon.

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 10:11pm

Anyways, it's watch and wait time.

Hopefully this situation will fizzle out so we may all sleep soundly in our beds.

Raheem Euro · 25-11-2018 10:15pm

Belen Lazy Smallness wrote: »

Anything made of straw really, and cotton, paper, concrete, steel.

Think the very largest 100mt wasn't tested as the jet up at high altitudes (dropping it with a parachute) still couldn't escape the resulting inferno and shockwave fast enough even at Mach1/2.

So they tested a smaller 50mt which broke someones window about 500 nautical miles away up in the arsehole regions of the siberian artic.

So you reckon Russia is going to drop a 100mt nuclear bomb on Kiev?

Timberrrrrrrr · 25-11-2018 10:18pm

Armadildo wrote: »

Won't be no nukes hitting Ireland.

Im not in ireland

SafeSurfer · 25-11-2018 10:19pm

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I suppose the more likely scenario would be a push up to the borders of EU. Still unlikely I think.

The threat as it is now is via economic sanctions/interference, meddling in elections and such, cyber attacks and proxy wars. All from both sides, to some extent or other.

Absolutely. Russian interference in Brexit, US, French elections is often referred to in western media but Western interference in internal Russian or Ukrainian politics is never mentioned.

For countries like the US and UK to bemoan foreign interference in their internal politics after their long history of regime change from South America to Africa to the Middle East is so hypocritical it’s funny.

4068ac1elhodqr · 25-11-2018 10:20pm

Raheem Euro wrote: »

So you reckon Russia is going to drop a 100mt nuclear bomb on Kiev?

In a very worse case scenario? Nope.

Too close and too many semi-fertile fields in that region.

Elsewhere, who knows (in an 'very unlikely' SHTF event).

Will there be a global conflict sometime in the next 50yrs, perhaps.
Are China and others preparing for such an event, perhaps.

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 10:21pm

Spoke too soon maybe

https://twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1066803481179287563?s=19

Or just bluster?

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 10:21pm

https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1066803452028833794?s=19

namloc1980 · 25-11-2018 10:22pm

pri wrote: »

Any links about the situation in Donetsk?

Reports range from nothing at all is happening to massive artillery barrage by Ukraine. Classic fog of war stuff.

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 10:24pm

pri wrote: »

Any links about the situation in Donetsk?

All quiet it seems, from sources on the ground. Russian disinfo at work.

SafeSurfer · 25-11-2018 10:25pm

If this escalates it is fair to assume Ukraine has been given the support of NATO.

Would the US have permitted Mexico to join the Warsaw Pact?

Gringo180 · 25-11-2018 10:25pm

Seems like the Ukranian navy were sailing there ships through the Kerch strait without any Russian authorisation? Why would they do that?

batgoat · 25-11-2018 10:27pm

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Spoke too soon maybe

https://twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1066803481179287563?s=19

Or just bluster?

Never seen that account before so finding it a tad suspect. In addition, Ukraine Security council are apparently meeting in 40 minutes so it will be on table as possibility.
https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1066804439749660673

gandalf · 25-11-2018 10:27pm

This is what happens when you don't deal with aggressive rogue regimes like Russia properly in the first place.

If they are proven to be in the wrong then there needs to be a strong response from the International Community. Booting them out of the SWIFT system would be a good start along with restricting uber rich Russians ability to travel as well.

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 10:27pm

SafeSurfer wrote: »

If this escalates it is fair to assume Ukraine has been given the support of NATO.

Would the US have permitted Mexico to join the Warsaw Pact?

I wouldn't assume that that support goes beyond verbal and economic. Could be wrong of course.

Gringo180 · 25-11-2018 10:29pm

gandalf wrote: »

This is what happens when you don't deal with aggressive rogue regimes like Russia properly in the first place.

If they are proven to be in the wrong then there needs to be a strong response from the International Community. Booting them out of the SWIFT system would be a good start along with restricting uber rich Russians ability to travel as well.

You've basically proven them guilty in your first paragraph. Why dont you wait to hear the full story first before casting judgement?

Raheem Euro · 25-11-2018 10:29pm

Belen Lazy Smallness wrote: »

In a very worse case scenario? Nope.

Too close and too many semi-fertile fields in that region.

Elsewhere, who knows (in an 'very unlikely' SHTF event).

Will there be a global conflict sometime in the next 50yrs, perhaps.
Are China and others preparing for such an event, perhaps.

I take it then notwithstanding the verbal diarrhea you have no comment to make on whether nuclear winter was 1970s myth.

igCorcaigh · 25-11-2018 10:31pm

batgoat wrote: »

Never seen that account before so finding it a tad suspect

Yes, I should double check twitter sources.
It's not an account I follow, but from one that had retweeted.

Skylinehead · 25-11-2018 10:31pm

Raheem Euro wrote: »

I think "nuclear winter" has been debunked hasnt it?

Patrolling the Mojave would almost make you wish for nuclear winter.

WoollyRedHat · 25-11-2018 10:32pm

The war will be tweeted.

P_1 · 25-11-2018 10:32pm

gandalf wrote: »

This is what happens when you don't deal with aggressive rogue regimes like Russia properly in the first place.

If they are proven to be in the wrong then there needs to be a strong response from the International Community. Booting them out of the SWIFT system would be a good start along with restricting uber rich Russians ability to travel as well.

Wouldn't that snooker businesses who trade with Russia though?

gandalf · 25-11-2018 10:32pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

You've basically proven them guilty in your first paragraph. Why dont you wait to hear the full story first before casting judgement?

Well given their recent form it hard to see beyond them being the aggressor here. But I did add the caveat of "proven".

nullzero · 25-11-2018 10:34pm

gandalf wrote: »

This is what happens when you don't deal with aggressive rogue regimes like Russia properly in the first place.

If they are proven to be in the wrong then there needs to be a strong response from the International Community. Booting them out of the SWIFT system would be a good start along with restricting uber rich Russians ability to travel as well.

The rogue state Russia who singlehandedly destroyed the ISIL/ISIS califate and the threat it posed to the world while the rest of the world stood by and did nothing (other than supply ISIS with American made weapons).

Trump is a cretin but had Hillary been elected there'd already be a hot war between the USA and Russia.
This will happen eventually, you can't pass up an opportunity for a good war can you? Money to be made from the suffering of millions.

gandalf · 25-11-2018 10:34pm

P_1 wrote: »

Wouldn't that snooker businesses who trade with Russia though?

Yes it would but given their behaviour something needs to give and I'd prefer that sort of response to a military one wouldn't you?

gandalf · 25-11-2018 10:35pm

nullzero wrote: »

The rogue state Russia who singlehandedly destroyed the ISIL/ISIS califate and the threat it posed to the world while the rest of the world stood by and did nothing (other than supply ISIS with American made weapons).

Trump is a cretin but had Hillary been elected there'd already be a hot war between the USA and russ

Ah the apologists are online at last

Russia fires on Ukranian vessels

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