The Frederick St protest and reaction

gandalf · 13-09-2018 8:33am

I see these protests as a symptom of the shambolic way we build and rent homes in this country. As I said earlier our politicians have paid lip service to dealing with horded vacant property and sites but have done nothing. If there was a sustained effort to build affordable housing by the state it would have a relieving knock on effect for the private housing and rental markets in readjustment of the prices. This needs to happen, ordinary families are being priced out of the buying and rental markets across the country.

We need to stop viewing property as an investment and view it as a home again.

enricoh · 13-09-2018 8:38am

A few wasters that contribute nothing ignored a court order and are turfed out, uproar ensues.

A hard working farmer is beat unconscious and hospitalised by 4 fellas there to rob his place and not a word about it. I'll give the wasters one thing , they are good at the social Media stuff!

McMurphy · 13-09-2018 8:39am

enricoh wrote: »

A few wasters that contribute nothing ignored a court order and are turfed out, uproar ensues.

A hard working farmer is beat unconscious and hospitalised by 4 fellas there to rob his place and not a word about it. I'll give the wasters one thing , they are good at the social Media stuff!

So start a thread about it ya waster.

13-09-2018 8:43am

I think the Government are Boards.ie readers. I seem to remember suggesting something along these lines a few days ago.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0913/993427-land_development_agency/

“The Government is to launch the new Land Development Agency, which it says will coordinate State owned lands for regeneration and development, and open up sites for the provision of housing.

It will be funded to the tune of €1.25 billion and will have the power to use State land and to buy private lands on which potentially thousands of homes will be built across the country.

The Government believes the new agency could lead to the construction of more than 150,000 homes over the next 20 years.

They will include social, affordable and private homes.

The new organisation will be run along commercial lines and it will see the State forming joint ventures with builders and developers to provide homes.

It is understood there will be a requirement that one third of homes built on State lands will have to be affordable ones.

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has already said this initiative will be viewed in the future as being on par with the establishment of the ESB and the IDA.

Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government Eoghan Murphy brought proposals for its establishment to a Cabinet meeting yesterday.”

10000maniacs · 13-09-2018 8:44am

20Cent wrote: »

The people in the house were all employed. The unemployment rate now is 6.1% almost full employment so the problem isn't hoards of "lazy" unemployed scroungers it's that even with a job shelter is a problem The only surprise is that people didn't start getting militant earlier.

Rule 1: If you have a job you are entitled to steal an unoccupied house.
Another of the liberal left's rules of engagement.

judestynes · 13-09-2018 8:44am

anewme wrote: »

Sacrificing their freedom?

You have to be taking the p?

They are whingers and moaners who don't want to pay for anything and expect someone else to pay for them.

The media are as bad. Selective reporting. No one wanted to report that Ms. Cash/Ms. Forever home Fleming were not transparent (that's being nice about it)

Not everyone is gullible and they can't stand when people see through them.

There were several arrests I'm quite sure some of those will go to the courts those cases may or may not end in custodial sentences. That's a risk the protesters were willing to take so yes... that's sacrificing their freedom.
What are you prepared to do besides sit at the internet and bitch?

whisky_galore · 13-09-2018 8:45am

naughtb4 wrote: »

There is no housing crises there is an entitlement crisis

No housing crisis for those with their own house.
I'm all right Jack.

People have to break the law sometimes to affect a change; 1916, the War of Independence, Workers' rights, Suffragette movement, condom train...all illegal. Or do we just lie down and roll over?

super_furry · 13-09-2018 8:45am

enricoh wrote: »

A few wasters that contribute nothing ignored a court order and are turfed out, uproar ensues.

A hard working farmer is beat unconscious and hospitalised by 4 fellas there to rob his place and not a word about it. I'll give the wasters one thing , they are good at the social Media stuff!

And what are you doing about it other than whinging on...... social media.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-09-2018 8:47am

naughtb4 wrote: »

There is no housing crises there is an entitlement crisis

Nah there's not - there's plenty of entitlement available, AAA/PBP/SF - the usual crowd.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-09-2018 8:49am

judestynes wrote: »

They aren't waster's. they are sacrificing their freedoms and even putting themselves in harms way for YOU IN FACT FOR ALL OF US. Just because the current situation doesn't impact on you there's no guarantee future legislation won't. Are you all so blind you can't see that the mere fact that citizens have to go to such lengths to high light the injustice even the injustice of people who abuse the welfare system constitutes a failure on the part of the government. Do I agree with that particular course of action? No. I do agree there needs to be action though and the state sending in their bull dogs is going to make matters worse.

Kumbayf**kingah comrade.

What utter rubbish there.

13-09-2018 8:49am

irishgeo wrote: »

People saying it was a forced eviction. It wasn't. It was a removal of illegal squatters. i don't how else your supposed to remove them.

By all accounts the squatters left quietly. The trouble started outside, leading to the 5 arrests.

gandalf · 13-09-2018 8:49am

whisky_galore wrote: »

No housing crisis for those with their own house.

I'm all right Jack.

Very simplistic view. An awful lot of people in this country are "married" to onerous mortgages that they can barely afford to service. So a very high proportion are not alright.

whisky_galore · 13-09-2018 8:51am

gandalf wrote: »

Very simplistic view. An awful lot of people in this country are "married" to onerous mortgages that they can barely afford to service. So a very high proportion are not alright.

And whose fault is that?

Captain Obvious · 13-09-2018 8:53am

judestynes wrote: »

There were several arrests I'm quite sure some of those will go to the courts those cases may or may not end in custodial sentences. That's a risk the protesters were willing to take so yes... that's sacrificing their freedom.
What are you prepared to do besides sit at the internet and bitch?

Didn't all the arrestees go to hospital after release? What a waste of hospital resources.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-09-2018 8:53am

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Didn't all the arrestees go to hospital after release? What a waste of hospital resources.

Ah but how else will they make a claim ????

the_syco · 13-09-2018 8:54am

gandalf wrote: »

This needs to happen, ordinary families are being priced out of the buying and rental markets across the country.

Dublin says no to houses to be built near them. Anywhere in Dublin will have NIMBYism.

gandalf · 13-09-2018 8:55am

the_syco wrote: »

Dublin says no to houses to be built near them. Anywhere in Dublin will have NIMBYism.

Oh nimbyism is a massive problem along with TDs who think like bloody county councillors.

gandalf · 13-09-2018 8:59am

whisky_galore wrote: »

And whose fault is that?

At the end of the day it's your own responsibility if you take on a loan of any type. However I'm just countering the narrative that people who own a home all are living on easy Street.

Given the state of the rental market and the lack of protection for long term renters it is understandable that people will stretch themselves to purchase a home. The problem is sometimes they stretch themselves too far.

Topgear on Dave · 13-09-2018 9:02am

the_syco wrote: »

Dublin says no to houses to be built near them. Anywhere in Dublin will have NIMBYism.

THis has been blocked.

Aodhaon O'Riordan, Irelands most hip socialist opposition politician was celebrating construction getting blocked.

Reason: GEESE

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/500-homes-in-dublin-city-opposed-over-concerns-for-geese-36698384.html

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

13-09-2018 9:05am

20Cent wrote: »

Four of the people evicted were hospitalised due to injuries suffered during the eviction. Assault by masked men protected by the Gardai, a sinister thing to happen.

I think you’ll find that 4 of the protesters took themselves off to A & E with such serious injuries as concussion. So serious that they were discharged that night?

They were not assaulted by those carrying out the evictions. If they were you can be sure that videos to that affect would be all over social media. They threw their rattles from their prams and attacked the Gardai who were carrying out their legal duties.

CosmicJay · 13-09-2018 9:06am

Thankfully I was warned about these crusties just before I turned into it. I was able to sail my land yacht around the giant sponge.

Sailing the high seas is dangerous these days. Crusties everywhere.

the_syco · 13-09-2018 9:08am

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

THis has been blocked.

Aodhaon O'Riordan, Irelands most hip socialist opposition politician was celebrating construction getting blocked.

As I said, Dublin says no.

It doesn't matter what bullsh|t reason it was for anymore. Dublin doesn't want houses in Dublin, and prefer that you commute from far far away. Only people on Social Welfare are entitled to houses in Dublin.

dav3 · 13-09-2018 9:10am

Deleted User wrote: »

I think the Government are Boards.ie readers. I seem to remember suggesting something along these lines a few days ago.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0913/993427-land_development_agency/

“The Government is to launch the new Land Development Agency, which it says will coordinate State owned lands for regeneration and development, and open up sites for the provision of housing.

It will be funded to the tune of €1.25 billion and will have the power to use State land and to buy private lands on which potentially thousands of homes will be built across the country.

The Government believes the new agency could lead to the construction of more than 150,000 homes over the next 20 years.

They will include social, affordable and private homes.

The new organisation will be run along commercial lines and it will see the State forming joint ventures with builders and developers to provide homes.

It is understood there will be a requirement that one third of homes built on State lands will have to be affordable ones.

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has already said this initiative will be viewed in the future as being on par with the establishment of the ESB and the IDA.

Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government Eoghan Murphy brought proposals for its establishment to a Cabinet meeting yesterday.”

Nice little earner for a few private builders and developers that have been eyeing up prime state owned land for decades.

We'll get 10% "affordable" houses out of it at least. Keep the recovery going.

seamus · 13-09-2018 9:10am

800 posts and not a single suggestion from these protestors about fixing the housing crisis, just claims that nothing is being done, complaints that the government isn't clicking their fingers to make it go away.

Occupying vacant property won't solve it. CPO'ing city centre properties won't solve it.

The only way to solve it, is to build houses. Suitable, modern, safe, well-planned, houses. Not any old sh1te in a field in the midlands with 1,000 other social tenants.

This takes time. Lots of it. No amount of protesting can change that fact.

It would certainly be of immense help if DCC got their sh1t together and starting allowing buildings bigger than 5 storeys in the city centre.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-09-2018 9:11am

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

THis has been blocked.

Aodhaon O'Riordan, Irelands most hip socialist opposition politician was celebrating construction getting blocked.

Reason: GEESE

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/500-homes-in-dublin-city-opposed-over-concerns-for-geese-36698384.html

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Hypocrite of the highers f**king order there.

And that **** Keegan. Not happy till everyone's on a f**king bike.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-09-2018 9:12am

dav3 wrote: »

Nice little earner for a few private builders and developers that have been eyeing up prime state owned land for decades.

We'll get 10% "affordable" houses out of it at least. Keep the recovery going.

You ever get tired of pathetic soundbites ?

the_syco · 13-09-2018 9:18am

seamus wrote: »

800 posts and not a single suggestion from these protestors about fixing the housing crisis, just claims that nothing is being done, complaints that the government isn't clicking their fingers to make it go away.

And the place near MountJoy Square actually just recently got planning permission to be turned into 4 apartments, from 10 illegal bedsits (they were refused permission to build 9 small apartments). But nope, they'll squat it to prevent the apartments being built, so that they can protest about the lack of apartments being built.

whisky_galore · 13-09-2018 9:19am

the_syco wrote: »

Dublin says no to houses to be built near them. Anywhere in Dublin will have NIMBYism.

It's BANANAs now, Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone.

zapitastas · 13-09-2018 9:24am

Now it turns out that the tax for the van ran out in July 2014 and didn't have a mot either. The thing should have been impounded

dav3 · 13-09-2018 9:34am

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

You ever get tired of pathetic soundbites ?

Unfortunately I can't take credit for that particular pathetic soundbite.

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The Frederick St protest and reaction

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