Active shooter Maryland

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Like a quite night in Chicago.

Edit: Wrong thread.

US Naval Academy is based in Anapolis.

There was a shooting a few years back at Navy Yard in DC. I think that was when the Navy were still there too.

This is America... don't catch you slippin'

What? In America? Are you sure?

take a minute there folks....

_Brian wrote: »

Interesting to see the reactions here and how these events become mundain, accepted and even a source of humour.

At least four individuals left home on a normal day, but will never ever be coming home.
If you’ve never had that happen to a member of your family at least try and imagine what it must be like, the hurt and devastation it causes.

America seems to be falling to pieces, but we shouldn’t make fun of it happening either.

I'd normally agree. However this has gone on far too long and will happen again and again if gun control and a change in culture isn't introduced. In a few weeks/days we will be talking about the same thing. The same posters will be calling for gun control and the same posters will be saying nothing needs changing. On the last few threads several gun nuts used it as an excuse to list the guns they own. Not once stating why they need assault rifles only stating "you won't take our guns". You can bet even if gun control would save 100 lives a year the gun nuts would be against it.

The gun nuts are like anti-vaccers at this stage in that the culture they're promoting is costing people's lives. You can't reason with these people therefore humor is an appropriate outlet IMHO. We're not laughing at the deaths, but the bizarre situation that is facilitating events like this.

and now for a bit of balance. I'm sitting outside and I can hear the sound in the distance of at least two gob****es racing through the streets of a small town in their modified cars in a country where the biggest two causes of death for young people are suicide and road traffic accidents.

Gottta be a white shooter - he’s still alive.

suspects suspected twitter profile https://twitter.com/EricHartleyFrnd

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Although one wonders how somebody of that mental state in any civilized society is allowed to buy a gun in the first place. Welcome to NRA's America.

Is it though?

Akrasia wrote: »

As usual, Brooker is right in a way, but it does boil down to a 'guns don't kill people, people talking about guns killing people kills people' argument

Dozens of countries cover these US mass shootings, but the only country that has US style mass shooting copycat killers, is in the US, where uncoincidentally, they also have a ridiculous culture of jingostic association between gun ownership and national pride/freedom.

Guns are tools. And people who think guns are toys or some kind of symbol of feedom and democracy, are even bigger tools.

I appreciate the sentiment of the overall post but the bolded part is dead wrong.

A hammer is a tool. So is a screwdriver. A car is a tool. You can kill somebody with all of them but that is not their purpose.

A gun is not a tool. It's a weapon of war. It's designed to do one thing and thats to kill. That is its intended and only function.

wexie wrote: »

That's not entirely true now is it?

Are you saying that farmers all over the country are waging war on foxes and crows?

Or would you say they're using guns as tools for pest control?

I largely agree with what I think is the sentiment of your post but you're definitely oversimplifying it a bit. For many people all over the world a gun is just a tool that they need (not want, need) to do their jobs safely or just to protect themselves. In most of those places people seem to be able to do that without major drama (like here in Ireland for example)

You just proved my point for me. What do you think those farmers are using those guns for? They kill the foxes with them. Because that is it what a gun is. A weapon designed to kill. That is what it was designed to do and that is what it does. It's a weapon....not a tool.

And don't get me started on that old "protection" chestnut. A gun doesn't protect anything. When you send your kid out on his bike, you don't hand him a glock. You give him a helmet. THATS protection. The only thing you are going to be doing with a gun is kill people. If somebody walks up to you on the street and shoots you through the chest, the gun in your holster or pocket isn't "protecting" anything. And thats ignoring the sad fact that statistically, you are more likely to shoot yourself or a family member than an attacker.

And the reason why there is no "drama" as you put it in Ireland is because an 18 year old can't walk into Spar, fill out a form and order himself weapon designed to kill people.

America has 400 million guns in civilian possession. More than anywhere else in the world by a country mile. More guns in the country than people. Let that sink in. THAT is their problem. Everything else is just whataboutery and obfuscation by people trying to distract you from the blindingly obvious.