Digital ID's for everyone

The_B_Man · 06-09-2020 11:32pm

So is it just like a global PPS number?

4068ac1elhodqr · 20-09-2020 2:57pm

Perhaps an interim type measure, for anyone who hasn't/won't get or use a smartphone, or using it in flight mode, to avoid endless tracking.

Places such as Singapore are handing out 'tokens'.
Well 'tracing' tokens (token suggests a reward) to be exact.
Well more like a 'reward' bracelet put on someones leg.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-54206824
Volountary (for now) the report says, at 1:50 into the video.

4068ac1elhodqr · 20-09-2020 3:02pm

The_B_Man wrote: »

So is it just like a global PPS number?

Pretty much (welfare ID), and scannable from distance (all new SmartLampPosts do/will have iRed high-zoom cameras built into them).

Technically the QR type pattern embodiment, if it acts as a UNiD as suggested, could thus replace all and every other type of plastic or paper based ID, e.g. passports, driving licences etc.

It will also serve of course as 'immunity certification' that could mean the access to products or services could be limited without the QDTattoo.

Dohnjoe · 20-09-2020 3:13pm

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Pretty much (welfare ID), and scannable from distance (all new SmartLampPosts do/will have iRed high-zoom cameras built into them).

Technically the QR type pattern embodiment, if it acts as a UNiD as suggested, could thus replace all and every other type of plastic or paper based ID, e.g. passports, driving licences etc.

It will also serve of course as 'immunity certification' that could mean the access to products or services could be limited without the QDTattoo.

Stripping away the techo-waffle, basically this is what you are claiming: We are all going to be secretly "marked" with something, without our knowledge or permission. Then some shady "powers-that-be" are going to track us for some nefarious reason using secret cameras on lampposts

See how nuts that sounds. I suspect that's the reason you add so much techno-babble.

4068ac1elhodqr · 20-09-2020 3:20pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Stripping away the techo-waffle

If technology is something you fail to understand, just say so.
Technology is technology, not waffle.

A waffle is something that goes in the grill or toaster.

Timberrrrrrrr · 20-09-2020 3:22pm

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

If technology is something you fail to understand, just say so.
Technology is technology, not waffle.

A waffle is something that goes in the grill or toaster.

Its not technology though, it's possible technology that may be available in the future for the reasons you say it may be used.

Dohnjoe · 20-09-2020 3:27pm

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

If technology is something you fail to understand, just say so.
Technology is technology, not waffle.

Oh I understand the technology very well. But just because we have planes that can spray chemicals doesn't mean they are spraying us with chemicals. Just because insertable microchips or "digital tattoos" exist doesn't mean there is some "evil" plan to force them onto the population without our knowledge

That's the part you invent

4068ac1elhodqr · 20-09-2020 4:15pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Oh I understand the technology very well.

Seemingly not.*

Dohnjoe wrote: »

But just because we have planes that can spray chemicals doesn't mean they are spraying us with chemicals.

What is your conspiracy now, something vague about planes is it?
Do tell us more (perhaps best elsewhere though, on another relevant thread)

Dohnjoe wrote: »

*Just because insertable microchips...

A prime and repeated, perhaps eve deliberate misunderstanding of QD (passive, nano)technology, maybe for nefarious reasons and misdirection.

4068ac1elhodqr · 20-09-2020 4:22pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Its not technology though, it's possible technology that may be available in the future for the reasons you say it may be used.

Correct me if I'm wrong (I may have a screengrab at hand) didn't you say back in March that you i) acted against state recommendations and sat on a park bench (for hours), during peak lockdown phase in the NW (even now still at R1+)

At the same time, and very relevant to the Singapore ID topic (always on BTLE tokens)...

ii) you also said that you would actually choose to turn off the bluetooth setting on your phone, as this was your personal preference if they started using Bluetooth for tracking.

The Singapore token solution would void such actions of people who turn off BT on their smartphones (or those who refuse to even have a phone). Surely you would thus have real concerns about this news in Singapore.

This is the brunt of the issue here, DigialIDs may not all be bad, the real issue is there is/was/will be zero real debate, before they become widespread, perhaps even manditory in many cases.

Anyway time for even more sunshine now, VitD is good, and today is the last of the good weather from some time.

Dohnjoe · 20-09-2020 4:23pm

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

A prime and repeated, perhaps eve deliberate misunderstanding of QD (passive, nano)technology, maybe for nefarious reasons and misdirection.

Now I'm part of a conspiracy..

lol

ranto_boy · 23-09-2020 10:54am

Are you all ready for your "covid" passports? - http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20200831-coronavirus-will-you-need-an-immunity-passport-to-travel

> Consideration of immunity passports in the UK is still in its early stages, with the British government examining submissions from other facial recognition and identity firms, such as Yoti, Nomidio and Berlin-based IDnow, as well as a range of medical experts and academics on the viability of an immunity-based scheme.

Nothing strange to see here. No sir.

The Nal · 23-09-2020 10:56am

ranto_boy wrote: »

Are you all ready for your "covid" passports? - http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20200831-coronavirus-will-you-need-an-immunity-passport-to-travel

> Consideration of immunity passports in the UK is still in its early stages, with the British government examining submissions from other facial recognition and identity firms, such as Yoti, Nomidio and Berlin-based IDnow, as well as a range of medical experts and academics on the viability of an immunity-based scheme.

Nothing strange to see here. No sir.

Whats wrong with this exactly?

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-09-2020 12:36pm

The Nal wrote: »

Whats wrong with this exactly?

Very good question, has there been any public consultation or debate as to the (wrongs or rights) of introduction of such Digital IDs?

Didn't the BBC (where this article is) do many a documentary on the terrible plight of the Chinese Uighurs and there need to QRCode themselves when accessing services and purchasing products, even simple kitchen cutlery?

Didn't Google (motto:do no evil) also call Clearviews AI (your face will be on this) technology, a bit 'too evil' even for them, citing privacy rights?

Didn't SF (inc Silicon Valley) City also ban outright the use of FaceRegCameras, claiming privacy concerns.

Yet here we are, the replacement of paper/plastic ID's coupled wtih scanners. Of course the next natural progression of this, will be to remove the limitation factor of having to lug around a charged up smartphone at all.

ranto_boy · 23-09-2020 1:00pm

The Nal wrote: »

Whats wrong with this exactly?

We see how eager governments and businesses are to have something like. Want to come into this shop? No problem, let's just take your covid passport, "track and trace" you (

) and oh yes, we'll fo facial recognition too. We must know where you are at all times...

Dionaibh · 23-09-2020 1:14pm

ranto_boy wrote: »

We see how eager governments and businesses are to have something like. Want to come into this shop? No problem, let's just take your covid passport, "track and trace" you ( ) and oh yes, we'll fo facial recognition too. We must know where you are at all times...

But a poster on another thread wrote that a lot of countries singed up for those passports, but decided in the end not to go down that road. I haven't been able to find out what countries pulled out. Does anyone know?

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-09-2020 1:34pm

While this is one of many interesting pilot schemes, the early standard form of unified and global Digital IDs (under the covid theme), will emmerge next year, at every int'l airport.

This larger scheme will encompass many of these smaller innovations (pilot schemes), and use elements of their technology if those scheme factors show they are useful for enhancing tracking, tracing.

It's called the 'CommonPass framework' (owned by Rockerfellers {same as ID2020.org}), and backed by 'The Great Reset' folks i.e. WEF & Davos 2021.

Your lab results, your travel {or available paper/card} ID (and likely biometric values as above {stored as UnID value}) will form a HL7FLIR pair (also subject to further pairing).
This will then use Azure Cloud Blockchain (as per id2020) Complaince Engine central db.

This means you will have either a green light, or a red light if you want to travel (no reason why this could not be used outside of travel too).
At the point of manditory global vaccine saturation, anyone without one, will be a 'red light' (will not travel or enter).

4068ac1elhodqr · 30-09-2020 8:10pm

Seperate from the huge id2020 group, and it's associates (Gates, MS^, Gavi, Rockerfeller and now the WEF: aka The 2021 Great Reset).

Amazon (since yesterday) have announced a new live ID system rollout in it's stores, in their push towards their own transactional ID verification, using scans of the hand (n.b. ^AWS is a direct competitor of MSAzure{above}).

Amazon is rolling out a new contactless technology that enables consumers to make payments and carry out other in-store transactions using the palm of their hand. The internet giant has big plans for this technology, including offering it to third parties.

'ID everywhere' : However, Amazon One wasn’t designed just to verify users for payments in Amazon’s stores. The company said it wants people to use their palm to facilitate “everyday activities” like presenting loyalty cards and verifying their identity before entering sports stadiums, offices, third-party grocery stores, and more.

https://venturebeat.com/2020/09/29/amazon-one-verifies-consumers-and-office-workers-by-scanning-the-palm-of-their-hands/
Amazon already use face scans in their 'staff-free 'Go' stores, this is likely to be a 2nd stage complimentary (pairing) transaction verification, to cover basic 'biometric liveness detection' {rules out inanimate spoof artifact bypass risks}.

Apple also, has a patent filed for ID verification patents using contactless hand scans.

ohnonotgmail · 01-10-2020 8:47am

what is the conspiracy again? it is a bit odd for conspiracists to be doing everything in public.

nannerbenahs · 01-10-2020 10:38am

In 2017, right after Trump took over, Anthony Fauci said, "There is NO QUESTION there is going to be a challenge for the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases. There will be a SURPRISE OUTBREAK. There’s NO DOUBT in anyone’s mind about this."

True story.

Even the fact checkers agree…

Thousands of medical doctors call the pandemic a "global crime", and a "world dictatorship with a sanitary excuse". However, part of the top down control strategy has been extreme censoring of every single voice from doctors, scientists or other experts that criticize what is going on. Which is why you don’t get to hear about the 500-strong "Doctors for Information" in Germany or the 600 Spanish "Doctors for Truth" who are protesting about the massive misinformation in the mainstream media – urging doctors, the media and political authorities to stop this criminal operation by spreading the truth.

Another thing they don’t tell you in the propaganda media is that a testing method FOR COVID-19 was patented in 2015 by Richard Rothschild – four years before the disease existed…

ohnonotgmail · 01-10-2020 10:39am

nannerbenahs wrote: »

In 2017, right after Trump took over, Anthony Fauci said, "There is NO QUESTION there is going to be a challenge for the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases. There will be a SURPRISE OUTBREAK. There’s NO DOUBT in anyone’s mind about this."

True story.

Even the fact checkers agree…

Thousands of medical doctors call the pandemic a "global crime", and a "world dictatorship with a sanitary excuse". However, part of the top down control strategy has been extreme censoring of every single voice from doctors, scientists or other experts that criticize what is going on. Which is why you don’t get to hear about the 500-strong "Doctors for Information" in Germany or the 600 Spanish "Doctors for Truth" who are protesting about the massive misinformation in the mainstream media – urging doctors, the media and political authorities to stop this criminal operation by spreading the truth.

Another thing they don’t tell you in the propaganda media is that a testing method FOR COVID-19 was patented in 2015 by Richard Rothschild – four years before the disease existed…

what does this have to do with digital IDs?

King Mob · 01-10-2020 10:51am

nannerbenahs wrote: »

In 2017, right after Trump took over, Anthony Fauci said, "There is NO QUESTION there is going to be a challenge for the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases. There will be a SURPRISE OUTBREAK. There’s NO DOUBT in anyone’s mind about this."

True story.

A true story, yet no source?
That's strange.

nannerbenahs wrote: »

Another thing they don’t tell you in the propaganda media is that a testing method FOR COVID-19 was patented in 2015 by Richard Rothschild – four years before the disease existed…

This isn't true though.

The Nal · 01-10-2020 10:58am

nannerbenahs wrote: »

In 2017, right after Trump took over, Anthony Fauci said, "There is NO QUESTION there is going to be a challenge for the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases. There will be a SURPRISE OUTBREAK. There’s NO DOUBT in anyone’s mind about this."

True story.

Even the fact checkers agree…

Thousands of medical doctors call the pandemic a "global crime", and a "world dictatorship with a sanitary excuse". However, part of the top down control strategy has been extreme censoring of every single voice from doctors, scientists or other experts that criticize what is going on. Which is why you don’t get to hear about the 500-strong "Doctors for Information" in Germany or the 600 Spanish "Doctors for Truth" who are protesting about the massive misinformation in the mainstream media – urging doctors, the media and political authorities to stop this criminal operation by spreading the truth.

Another thing they don’t tell you in the propaganda media is that a testing method FOR COVID-19 was patented in 2015 by Richard Rothschild – four years before the disease existed…

You've just copied and pasted all that word for word from this blog

https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2020/09/30/heres-what-a-lockdown-should-actually-look-like/

4068ac1elhodqr · 01-10-2020 1:09pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what is the conspiracy again?

As ever... please read the title of the thread you are positng within^.

'Digital ID's for everyone'
(no doubt pushed and advanced greatly, thanks to China Flu).

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-10-2020 1:13pm

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

As ever... please read the title of the thread you are positng within^.

'No evidence for Digital ID's for everyone'
(no doubt pushed and advanced greatly, thanks to China Flu).

Fixed that for you.

4068ac1elhodqr · 01-10-2020 1:18pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

Re-fixed that for you:

'Digital ID's for everyone'

(clue: it's the actual title of the thread)

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-10-2020 1:24pm

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Re-fixed that for you:

'Digital ID's for everyone'

(clue: it's the actual title of the thread)

But thats not a conspiracy theory, its a statement. Wheres the conspiracy?

4068ac1elhodqr · 01-10-2020 1:31pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

But thats not a conspiracy theory, its a statement. Wheres the conspiracy?

Unless one is 'challenged' in some mental capacity, it's clear the statement (thread title) is intended or delivered as a question, proposal, indeed a theory.
Sure it's not a perfect title, but still the one assigned, and perfectly usable*.

Prefix with 'Will there be', or suffix with a '?'
*Really not that difficult....(unless you want it to be).

If you've made it this far and still asking the 'lol' term, 'ah so whats the theory' can only suggest start reading at...

Home > Topics > Society & Culture > Conspiracy Theories > Digital ID's for everyone : page 1.

Ted_YNWA · 01-10-2020 1:59pm

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

As ever... please read the title of the thread you are positng within^.

'Digital ID's for everyone'
(no doubt pushed and advanced greatly, thanks to China Flu).

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Unless one is 'challenged' in some mental capacity, it's clear the statement (thread title) is intended or delivered as a question, proposal, indeed a theory.
Sure it's not a perfect title, but still the one assigned, and perfectly usable*.

Prefix with 'Will there be', or suffix with a '?'
*Really not that difficult....(unless you want it to be).

If you've made it this far and still asking the 'lol' term, 'ah so whats the theory' can only suggest start reading at...

Home > Topics > Society & Culture > Conspiracy Theories > Digital ID's for everyone : page 1.

Kindly stop trying to stifle the discussion here.

Posters are allowed to question the relevance of evidence being given to support the theory that there is to be Digital IDs for everyong.

Dionaibh · 01-10-2020 2:31pm

I noticed that another poster quoted from the following article / blog post:

https://principia-scientific.com/proof-that-the-pandemic-was-planned-with-purpose/

I'm lost for words. I'm finding it impossible to debunk any of what the writer wrote. And the World Bank is planning to keep this going until 2025, which may mean that deagle now beings to make sense.

Can anyone debunk the claims made in the blog post?

ohnonotgmail · 01-10-2020 2:38pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

I noticed that another poster quoted from the following article / blog post:

https://principia-scientific.com/proof-that-the-pandemic-was-planned-with-purpose/

I'm lost for words. I'm finding it impossible to debunk any of what the writer wrote. And the World Bank is planning to keep this going until 2025, which may mean that deagle now beings to make sense.

Can anyone debunk the claims made in the blog post?

why dont you post that in one of the many covid threads? it is probably already discussed

Dionaibh · 01-10-2020 2:51pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why dont you post that in one of the many covid threads? it is probably already discussed

Thanks, but several of the claims made have not been discussed in other threads, as far as I'm aware, namely:

1. Richard Rothschild patented a 'System and Method for Testing for COVID-19' in 2015 (there's a screenshot of the patent).

2. Bill Gates tweeted in December 2019 that he was 5. excited about 2020 in terms of vaccines.

3. "In September 2019 – also right before the outbreak – the Global Preparedness Monitoring Board released a report titled ‘A World At Risk’.

It stressed the need to be prepared for… a coronavirus outbreak!

On the cover of the report is the picture of a coronavirus and people wearing face masks."

4. "Bill Gates also made it clear that only people who have been vaccinated against Covid-19 should be allowed to travel, go to school, attend meetings and work. (11) Digital vaccine ID’s are already being developed (12) and Gates has a patent on the technology that makes it possible to trace an individual’s body anywhere. This technology is called WO2020-060606 (13). In addition, Gates wants to set up a global monitoring network, which will track everyone who came into contact with Covid-19 (14)."

5. "Dr. John Coleman is a famous Intelligence Officer from the CIA who wrote a book titled ‘The Committee of 300’. In it he explains how secret societies manipulate governments, health care, food industries, the media and so on. This book can be found on the website of the CIA. (15)

One of the primary goals of the many secret societies, that control governments and the media, is to depopulate the earth.

‘At least 4 billion useless eaters shall be eliminated by the year 2050 by means of limited wars and
organized epidemics of fatal rapid acting diseases…’"

King Mob · 01-10-2020 3:08pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

2. Bill Gates tweeted in December 2019 that he was 5. excited about 2020 in terms of vaccines.

Ok. Why in your mind did he say this?
What's the conspiracy explanation for this specific quote?

Dionaibh wrote: »

This technology is called WO2020-060606 (13).

Are you now a believer in the mark of the beast nonsense?
If not, why claim this?

ohnonotgmail · 01-10-2020 3:14pm

King Mob wrote: »

Ok. Why in your mind did he say this?
What's the conspiracy explanation for this specific quote?

Are you now a believer in the mark of the beast nonsense?
If not, why claim this?

best not to ask. they got scared by a song.

Ted_YNWA · 01-10-2020 3:18pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Thanks, but several of the claims made have not been discussed in other threads, as far as I'm aware, namely:

1. Richard Rothschild patented a 'System and Method for Testing for COVID-19' in 2015 (there's a screenshot of the patent).

2. Bill Gates tweeted in December 2019 that he was 5. excited about 2020 in terms of vaccines.

3. "In September 2019 – also right before the outbreak – the Global Preparedness Monitoring Board released a report titled ‘A World At Risk’.

It stressed the need to be prepared for… a coronavirus outbreak!

On the cover of the report is the picture of a coronavirus and people wearing face masks."

4. "Bill Gates also made it clear that only people who have been vaccinated against Covid-19 should be allowed to travel, go to school, attend meetings and work. (11) Digital vaccine ID’s are already being developed (12) and Gates has a patent on the technology that makes it possible to trace an individual’s body anywhere. This technology is called WO2020-060606 (13). In addition, Gates wants to set up a global monitoring network, which will track everyone who came into contact with Covid-19 (14)."

5. "Dr. John Coleman is a famous Intelligence Officer from the CIA who wrote a book titled ‘The Committee of 300’. In it he explains how secret societies manipulate governments, health care, food industries, the media and so on. This book can be found on the website of the CIA. (15)

One of the primary goals of the many secret societies, that control governments and the media, is to depopulate the earth.

‘At least 4 billion useless eaters shall be eliminated by the year 2050 by means of limited wars and
organized epidemics of fatal rapid acting diseases…’"

All the more reason to bring them there, rather than derail this thread.

Dionaibh · 01-10-2020 8:01pm

King Mob wrote: »

Ok. Why in your mind did he say this?
What's the conspiracy explanation for this specific quote?

Are you now a believer in the mark of the beast nonsense?
If not, why claim this?

No conspiracy. It could be a coincidence. I'm guessing the writer found the timing of the tweet suspicious.

You focused on that tweet, but how do you explain what Richard Rothschild did? Do you think the screenshot is fake?

I didn't notice the 666 in the patent. I just copied and pasted from the article.

King Mob · 01-10-2020 11:48pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

No conspiracy. It could be a coincidence. I'm guessing the writer found the timing of the tweet suspicious.

You focused on that tweet, but how do you explain what Richard Rothschild did? Do you think the screenshot is fake?

I didn't notice the 666 in the patent. I just copied and pasted from the article.

You've avoided my point. I suspect that this is a deliberate tactic because you can't address the obvious issues with your conspiracy theory.
You do this a lot.

Let's try again:
What do YOU believe/suspect/worry Bill Gates meant with that quote?
Be specific and direct in your answer.

Winterrr · 01-10-2020 11:52pm

Many people are saying that the corona virus checking test is actually them implant bill Gates chip in you brain. This is why they shove the swab stick so far up you nose.
Food for thought

King Mob · 01-10-2020 11:55pm

Winterrr wrote: »

Food for thought

Why is it food for thought?
It obviously not true and complete nonsense.

Dionaibh · 02-10-2020 1:12pm

King Mob wrote: »

You've avoided my point. I suspect that this is a deliberate tactic because you can't address the obvious issues with your conspiracy theory.
You do this a lot.

Let's try again:
What do YOU believe/suspect/worry Bill Gates meant with that quote?
Be specific and direct in your answer.

I didn't mean to avoid it. I don't think it matters what I think as much as what I believe the writer of the article thinks of the tweet. I imagine the writer found it suspicious that probably the world's biggest promoter of vaccines tweeted that 2020, the year of the pandemic, would be an exciting year for vaccines. I'm guessing the writer believes that that tweet suggests foreknowledge of the pandemic. What I believe is that he may have been referring to vaccines for Ebola. I don't believe he was referring to COVID-19. So I think I've answered the question.

Do you believe that Richard Rothschild did what is claimed in the article?

King Mob · 02-10-2020 5:00pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

I didn't mean to avoid it.

Yet you seem to be doing a lot of avoiding.
If it's not on purpose, maybe stop doing it?

Dionaibh wrote: »

What I believe is that he may have been referring to vaccines for Ebola. I don't believe he was referring to COVID-19. So I think I've answered the question.

So then there's no conspiracy there.
Great. Maybe you shouldn't post conspiracy theories that aren't true.

Dionaibh wrote: »

Do you believe that Richard Rothschild did what is claimed in the article?

No.

Digital ID's for everyone

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