Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

knipex · 11-09-2019 12:02pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

So everyone acknowledges the UK recovers from No deal

Rees Mogg recons it will happen in 50 years..

knipex · 11-09-2019 12:04pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Depends on if the UK can keep its single market together. I seen the DUP are now referring to the integrity of the UK single market as paramount to the GFA

What you you mean single market ?

The UK with its self ??

Keeping the UK together.. Now that's a different story..

knipex · 11-09-2019 12:10pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/10/britons-want-brexit-referendum-respected-poll-reveals-public/

This is what the EU needs to get their head around.

How bloody hard is it to understand.

The EU are not stopping the UK leaving. The EU are not doing anything.

The UK envoked Article 50, the UK cannot reach agreement within parliament, the UK asked for an extension still couldn't reach a consensus and asked for a second extension which it pissed away on a Tory leadership competition, a holiday, a tory internal civil war.

This is a UK clusterfu*k for the UK to resolve. The EU is stuck dealing with the collateral damage and a Tory party trying to do what they have allways dome blame the EU when things go wrong..

The EU are not stopping Brexit the UK are..

knipex · 11-09-2019 12:11pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

We need to question seriously the claims the EU have any democratic principles.

It needs to be put out there that they need to wind their neck in as this EU army talk, fedralisation and all that might end up with Brussels needing regime change.

WTF do you care ? The UK are going it will have nothing to do with them..

davedanon · 11-09-2019 12:17pm

"We need to question seriously the claims the EU have any democratic principles."

Funniest, most deluded thing I've read all week. Including Boris/Trump.

Kidchameleon · 11-09-2019 12:29pm

davedanon wrote: »

Funniest, most deluded thing I've read all week.

Oh the irony :rolleyes:

McMurphy · 11-09-2019 12:48pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Sorry that was the Threxit interim period. Now entering the article 50 period so I'm off until the 31st Oct. Ill still be watching though. Bye.

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Oh the irony :rolleyes:

touche

#threxit.

Kidchameleon · 11-09-2019 1:11pm

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Dammit. I was planning a day off from the Brexit soap opera but now I'm going to have to put the telly on to watch this latest drama. :mad:

I think your safe taking the day off. The same case taken by Gina Miller was thrown out of the supreme court last week, it will be the same for this one.

11-09-2019 1:33pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Oh the irony :rolleyes:

Are you the UK? Always threatening to leave and never following through...

cryptocurrency · 11-09-2019 1:35pm

So the new leader of the EU, what's her face, Ulrika, nobody cares is now rowing back on the EU army talk after the US made it clear it was 100% behind the UK brexit and was planning to use its support to put the EU back in its box. Nobody is surprised at this.

The US followed by the UK are NATO and the rest are tinpot militaries who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.

UK needs to take a leaf out of the US playbook more and talk at the EU and not to it...much better results that way when dealing with the most paper of tigers.

Bannasidhe · 11-09-2019 1:37pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I think your safe taking the day off. The same case taken by Gina Miller was thrown out of the supreme court last week, it will be the same for this one.

Do you ever do any research before you post?

Gina Miller's case was unsuccessful in the High Court - it won't be heard by the Supreme Court until 17th Sept.

A legal challenge over Prime Minister Boris Johnson's decision to suspend Parliament has been rejected in the High Court.

The case was brought by businesswoman Gina Miller, who argued the move was "an unlawful abuse of power".

Rejecting Ms Miller's case, Lord Chief Justice Lord Burnett said she could immediately appeal because of the important points of law at stake.

The appeal is expected to be heard at the Supreme Court on 17 September.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49604584

cryptocurrency · 11-09-2019 1:37pm

Boris exploring the viability of a bridge from Northern Ireland to the mainland

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2019 1:38pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

So the new leader of the EU, what's her face, Ulrika, nobody cares is now rowing back on the EU army talk after the US made it clear it was 100% behind the UK brexit and was planning to use its support to put the EU back in its box. Nobody is surprised at this.

The US followed by the UK are NATO and the rest are tinpot militaries who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.

UK needs to take a leaf out of the US playbook more and talk at the EU and not to it...much better results that way when dealing with the most paper of tigers.

Just totally delusional like the most fervent Brexiteers.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 11-09-2019 1:41pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

So the new leader of the EU, what's her face, Ulrika, nobody cares is now rowing back on the EU army talk after the US made it clear it was 100% behind the UK brexit and was planning to use its support to put the EU back in its box. Nobody is surprised at this.
The US followed by the UK are NATO and the rest are tinpot militaries who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.

I don’t think the U.K. could beat Argentina right now if they took back the falklands. Be worth a try.

McMurphy · 11-09-2019 1:45pm

^^

Anyone else remember the "my daddy could beat up your daddy" talk at primary school?

bladespin · 11-09-2019 1:46pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

So the new leader of the EU, what's her face, Ulrika, nobody cares is now rowing back on the EU army talk after the US made it clear it was 100% behind the UK brexit and was planning to use its support to put the EU back in its box. Nobody is surprised at this.

The US followed by the UK are NATO and the rest are tinpot militaries who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.

UK needs to take a leaf out of the US playbook more and talk at the EU and not to it...much better results that way when dealing with the most paper of tigers.

Eh, Germany, France, Italy: tinpot militaries???

Do you really think the EU could take the UK sabre rattling as anything other than a complete and utter joke??? Thrumpeteer is 100% behind Brexit (subject to wind changes of course), not the US (they give less than a crap tbh), regardless of what you might think.

sabat · 11-09-2019 1:46pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Boris exploring the viability of a bridge from Northern Ireland to the mainland

I don't think a bridge to Norway is financially or practically feasible.

cryptocurrency · 11-09-2019 1:49pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

I don’t think the U.K. could beat Argentina right now if they took back the falklands. Be worth a try.

You clearly don't have a clue and despite all your internet talk I actually know about this....even every bit of the islands you mentioned.

It would be faster today then back then, that's how easy it would be.

Bannasidhe · 11-09-2019 1:50pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Boris exploring the viability of a bridge from Northern Ireland to the mainland

Maybe he has some special plants for bridges laying around after the Thames Garden Bridge fiasco he needs shot of...

Of the total spent by the Garden Bridge Trust, £43m was public money – £24m from Transport for London and £19m from the Department for Transport, TfL said on Wednesday.

The rest of the money came from donations to the trust, or fundraising activities.

The final sum has been reached after an official review into the costs of ending and winding up the project, which collapsed amid acrimony in August 2017. The review decided that a final £5.5m in DfT funding should be given to the trust as part of the cancellation agreement.

Announcing the figures, TfL said the eventual cost was significantly lower than it could have been. However, serious questions remain about how the project was able to spend so much money, and the extent to which the then London mayor, Boris Johnson, backed the scheme.

The figures show that 40% of the money, £21.4m, went to the French-based contractors Bouygues. The trust faced significant criticism for signing a construction contract before all the stipulated conditions for work to begin had apparently been completed.

Johnson signed a directive as mayor in 2016 which watered down some of the conditions that had to be met before more public money was released. Questioned by the London assembly last year on why he did this, Johnson said he could not remember.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/13/garden-bridge-charity-spent-535m-with-no-construction-tfl-finds

cryptocurrency · 11-09-2019 1:50pm

sabat wrote: »

I don't think a bridge to Norway is financially or practically feasible.

Boris bridge from Ulster is all over the news. Google it.

Bannasidhe · 11-09-2019 1:53pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Boris bridge from Ulster is all over the news. Google it.

That comment went completely over your head didn't it.

Think about this - how can an island be the 'mainland'?

We'll wait.

cryptocurrency · 11-09-2019 1:55pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

1824

In 1785 Friedrich Schiller wrote the poem "An die Freude'' as a celebration of the brotherhood of man. In 1824 Beethoven wrote the music.

Its a celebration of peace and the brotherhood of man. Both the poet and the composer wanted it to be a gift to people. "This kiss to the entire world"
The poem talking of Joy being the motivator.

It's lyrics are about running to the goal of being united with joy being our motivator.

Joy will embrace everyone. And we will all be brothers and sisters.

It was adopted in 1972.

The alternative title is ''all men shall be brothers. ''

It's refrain is 'All men shall be brothers'.

Brexiters of course have turned their backs on Beethoven!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/02/brexit-party-meps-turn-their-backs-european-anthem-ode-to-joy

It's not any anthem for any normal person. Couple of soy boys who want to be dominated maybe.

cryptocurrency · 11-09-2019 1:56pm

Bannasidhe wrote: »

That comment went completely over your head didn't it.

Think about this - how can an island be the 'mainland'?

We'll wait.

You can wait. Mainland.

Bannasidhe · 11-09-2019 1:59pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

You can wait. Mainland.

You can say 'mainland' all you want but that doesn't make it correct.
It's a proposed bridge between one island and another, slightly larger, island.

droidman123 · 11-09-2019 1:59pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

It's not any anthem for any normal person. Couple of soy boys who want to be dominated maybe.

How do you define "a normal person" and also what is a soy boy?

Professor Moriarty · 11-09-2019 2:01pm

Bannasidhe wrote: »

You can say 'mainland' all you want but that doesn't make it correct.
It's a proposed bridge between one island and another, slightly larger, island.

Trolls live under bridges. Fact.

McMurphy · 11-09-2019 2:01pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Boris bridge from Ulster is all over the news. Google it.

The Brits want to build a bridge between the six counties and Scotland - both of whom have serious notions of departing the United Kingdom, possibly even more so now following the brexit debacle?

I say let them build it, sound investment.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 11-09-2019 2:07pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

You clearly don't have a clue and despite all your internet talk I actually know about this....even every bit of the islands you mentioned.

It would be faster today then back then, that's how easy it would be.

Does the aircraft carrier have any planes yet?

Anyway I remember when the Iranians took over that navy ship that time. Piece of cake.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 11-09-2019 2:09pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Boris bridge from Ulster is all over the news. Google it.

We know. It’s pointless except for people on the east coast of Ulster who want to visit the west coast of Scotland.

davedanon · 11-09-2019 2:09pm

Yes, because if there's one thing Boris knows about, it's building bridges. Both literal and metaphorical.

Nice low-level homophobia there, crypto. You are really revealing yourself as a prince of a human being.

And what's with all the schoolboy sabre-rattling? Democracy not being nice to you, so you want a war now?

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 11-09-2019 2:12pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

It's not any anthem for any normal person. Couple of soy boys who want to be dominated maybe.

As opposed to soy boys who sing an ode to a 90 year old German woman?

FunLover18 · 11-09-2019 2:13pm

This bridge??

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/10/08/news/bridge-to-scotland-about-as-feasible-as-building-a-bridge-to-the-moon--1453026/

VinLieger · 11-09-2019 2:15pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Boris bridge from Ulster is all over the news. Google it.

You mean the bridge they want to build directly on top of the WW1 and WW2 munitions dumps?

https://www2.gov.scot/uploads/documents/ae08beauforts.fh10.pdf

11-09-2019 2:19pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

I don’t think the U.K. could beat Argentina right now if they took back the falklands. Be worth a try.

And how do you propose the Argentinians do that?

Bannasidhe · 11-09-2019 2:21pm

davedanon wrote: »

Yes, because if there's one thing Boris knows about, it's building bridges. Both literal and metaphorical.

Nice low-level homophobia there, crypto. You are really revealing yourself as a prince of a human being.

And what's with all the schoolboy sabre-rattling? Democracy not being nice to you, so you want a war now?

Sabre's are all they have left to rattle as the Royal Navy is so severely under funded (by the Tories) there are petitions going to 'save it'.

The overall financial situation for the MoD and the navy looks bleak. The weak pound will inflate the cost of planned foreign equipment purchases, particularly from the US and defence inflation continues to make major programmes even more expensive. Without further help from the Treasury, the MoD will have to find at least £1Bn savings each year for the next 10 years and it is rumoured the RN is already £500M short of what it needs for this year. Although barely begun, it is predicted that the ambitious Trident submarine replacement programme will consume all the £41Bn allocated, with costs likely to over-run.

There is a worrying lack of resilience in the fleet, with inadequate stocks of missiles, torpedoes and spares. Vessels regularly put to sea without a full complement of munitions and critical equipment is often rotated around ships. Although such a system may appear efficient in budgetary terms, an effective and credible navy needs flexibility and strength-in-depth to meet contingencies.

“The undeniable truth is that we are simply not spending enough on defence, and our sailors, soldiers and airmen are suffering in consequence” Col Bob Stewart

Waves of redundancies have left the RN with just 29,500 personnel and a lack of manpower is further diminishing its strength and resilience. This has created the familiar vicious circle where extra pressure lowers morale, causing more people to leave. The decline in warship numbers is the obvious effect of cuts but this ‘hollowing out’ of the Navy is just as serious, but conveniently hidden from public view. The crisis is particularly acute amongst technical ratings. In the last few years the RN has begun many initiatives in an attempt to stem resignations and aid recruitment. Regenerating manpower is challenging, particularly in competition with well paid civilian jobs. Wholly avoidable, this crisis was largely triggered by the foolish decisions made in 2010 and running the fleet too hard. The 2015 SDSR has given the RN a small uplift of 400 additional people. Together with internal redeployments and a plan to swap 300 officers for 600 ratings, theoretically RN will just about have enough personnel to man its future fleet. However, the manpower situation will be exceptionally tight and the planning depends on retaining its experienced people in the long-term.

https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/the-state-of-the-rn/

McMurphy · 11-09-2019 2:21pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

This bridge??

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/10/08/news/bridge-to-scotland-about-as-feasible-as-building-a-bridge-to-the-moon--1453026/

Borris bridge won't fly, it's already been taken.

Co Carlow.

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blinding · 11-09-2019 2:22pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

There was a leaflet issued at the cost of £10m to every household in the UK outline what leave meant.

Leave the single market, leave the customs union, end the control of the ECJ and to end free movement.

It also warned that there would be a end to free mobile phone roaming. They seemed to think that might swing it.

Great Post .

mcmoustache · 11-09-2019 2:24pm

droidman123 wrote: »

How do you define "a normal person" and also what is a soy boy?

Soy boy is a term mostly used in the places on the internet where weirdos such as incels, furries and weebs hang out. It's mostly used to describe men who don't gross out women with their obesity, poor hygiene and all around shíte personality.

blinding · 11-09-2019 2:25pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The Scottish are revolting.

But not enough to Vote themselves to be an Independent Country = Bottlers !

Kidchameleon · 11-09-2019 2:26pm

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Do you ever do any research before you post?

Gina Miller's case was unsuccessful in the High Court

Yes and the supreme court hearing is not till next week so as I said, safe to take your day off

Timberrrrrrrr · 11-09-2019 2:27pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Yes and the supreme court hearing is not till next week so as I said, safe to take your day off

I thought you were taking one?

blinding · 11-09-2019 2:28pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

They have made no concessions. They keep talking about the UK red lines but don't move their own.

The debate in the UK needs to focus more on how the common market in the 70s is the project we have now without previous referendums...in fact every nation needs to have that public debate including the US. We need to question seriously the claims the EU have any democratic principles.

It needs to be put out there that they need to wind their neck in as this EU army talk, fedralisation and all that might end up with Brussels needing regime change.

Good Points there .

VinLieger · 11-09-2019 2:29pm

blinding wrote: »

But not enough to Vote themselves to be an Independent Country = Bottlers !

Very likely a different result if held today, also wasn't a key claim by the stay campaign something about being in the eu?

davedanon · 11-09-2019 2:32pm

What kind of ocean-going idiot disses 'Ode to Joy' because of a connection to the EU????

It's fecking Beethoven, you nincompoop.

droidman123 · 11-09-2019 2:32pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The Scottish are revolting.

Ah come on,they are not that bad

Kidchameleon · 11-09-2019 2:34pm

VinLieger wrote: »

Very likely a different result if held today, also wasn't a key claim by the stay campaign something about being in the eu?

The EU referendum was well known about at that stage. The scots just assumed like most people that the Brits would vote to remain. Point is, the scots made an informed decision

Bannasidhe · 11-09-2019 2:34pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I think your safe taking the day off. The same case taken by Gina Miller was thrown out of the supreme court last week, it will be the same for this one.

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Yes and the supreme court hearing is not till next week so as I said, safe to take your day off

You said it was thrown out of the Supreme Court.
Once again you have shown you don't do even the smallest bit of research.
You could be a Tory government minister.

blinding · 11-09-2019 2:35pm

VinLieger wrote: »

Very likely a different result if held today, also wasn't a key claim by the stay campaign something about being in the eu?

The Scots were revolted by the thought of being forced to have the Euro as their currency the last time . They would bottle it again . Can you imagine a supposedly Independent Country not voting itself to be an Independent Country .:eek::eek:

Kidchameleon · 11-09-2019 2:36pm

Bannasidhe wrote: »

You said it was thrown out of the Supreme Court.
Once again you have shown you don't do even the smallest bit of research.
You could be a Tory government minister.

I know what I said, after all, I said it

davedanon · 11-09-2019 2:36pm

I see we have a 'new' one to deal with.

Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

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