Resident Evil Megathread

27-07-2020 5:48pm

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Why is the Resi 3 remake so crap?

It's not. It might be underwhelming but it's enjoyable.

No where near the worst game.

Azza · 27-07-2020 6:06pm

I've seen suggestions that because many gamers complained that Mr. X was too stressful in the Resident Evil 2 remake, that the developers possibly took that feedback on board and reduced the Nemesis presence to two or three relatively brief free roaming sequences where he's chasing you around the levels and from the mid way point of the game reduced his rule further to solely scripted boss appearances.

ancapailldorcha · 27-07-2020 6:26pm

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Why is the Resi 3 remake so crap?

It has nothing of what makes Resi Resi. It's a linear series of sequences with no puzzles, no exploration and far too many QTE's. Nemesis was a pale imitation of what he was in the original RE3.

Markitron · 28-07-2020 12:27pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

It has nothing of what makes Resi Resi. It's a linear series of sequences with no puzzles, no exploration and far too many QTE's. Nemesis was a pale imitation of what he was in the original RE3.

You think RE6 does a better job of being a Resi game than RE3 remake? That is certainly an opinion alright

ancapailldorcha · 28-07-2020 12:33pm

Markitron wrote: »

You think RE6 does a better job of being a Resi game than RE3 remake? That is certainly an opinion alright

That's not what I said. I said that it's a better game than RE3 remake and I stand by that.

Rob2D · 28-07-2020 1:38pm

Azza wrote: »

I've seen suggestions that because many gamers complained that Mr. X was too stressful in the Resident Evil 2 remake

That's because he shouldn't have been in it. Should have been B only like the original. No wonder people didn't like it if he was one of the first things you run into.

nix · 28-07-2020 2:10pm

Mr X was great in the remake, if you found his addition to the game too "difficult" or in anyway stressful its time to admit computer games are not for you. :rolleyes:

Not being elitist, just think its important we dont listen to cry babies that want gaming to devolve into mindless button mashing interactive movies..

Penn · 28-07-2020 2:26pm

I do think in a sense that Nemesis is much harder to deal with than Mr.X, all else being equal. However, Nemesis' difficulty is offset by so many things:

- He's limited to much smaller sections of the game rather than how long you might spend with Mr.X being a persistent threat when figuring out where to go
- He usually appears in much larger areas so easier to try get around
- Jill's dodging ability
- More weaponry & ammunition due to the more action-orientated gameplay
- RE3 being far more linear than RE2
- Most times you're only dealing with Nemesis, whereas when trying to escape or avoid Mr.X you're dealing with everything else in the RPD which may even draw his attention to your location

And so even though Nemesis is the tougher enemy, dealing with Nemesis became more of an annoyance than the feeling of dread you'd get from realising Mr.X was even nearby.

ancapailldorcha · 28-07-2020 2:35pm

nix wrote: »

Mr X was great in the remake, if you found his addition to the game too "difficult" or in anyway stressful its time to admit computer games are not for you. :rolleyes:

I think that his implementation was largely grand but flawed. The original game had him as a B-scenario only element and I think that that would have been the way to go. It would have made the A and B scenarios less repetitive.

nix wrote: »

Not being elitist, just think its important we dont listen to cry babies that want gaming to devolve into mindless button mashing interactive movies..

Indeed. That's possibly why we got such an abysmal RE3 remake. Sad thing was that I thought they nailed the supporting characters' redesigns. Nemesis looked amazing in the 10 minutes he's there in his original form.

Azza · 28-07-2020 3:58pm

Developers can't appease everyone.

I've seen complaints that Mr X was too stressful and others complain that it was stupid and immersion breaking that Mr. X couldn't go into safe rooms and other rooms (like the clock tower puzzle and the STARS room) and that he was too easy to avoid.

Problem with gaming message boards is they going can give a false impression so easily. People who are enjoying a game are too busy playing to post up comments but someone who dislikes the game will intermediately grab his pitch fork before going online.

Look at the steam forum for any game just after its release and you will have a chunk of posters saying this is the buggiest game in the history of mankind.

riffmongous · 28-07-2020 4:04pm

madcabbage wrote: »

RE2 will always eclipse RE2 remake, as much as that was a great game. Storywise i think the original was better.

Yeah the story of the remake must be a little odd for anyone who didn't play the original, like why do these people who barely know each other act so friendly?

Greyfox · 28-07-2020 6:55pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

That's not what I said. I said that it's a better game than RE3 remake and I stand by that.

RE3 remake is far better than 6, it's short but fun while it lasts. Its a little disappointing compared to the amazing RE2 remake but it does have the same combat and item management making the game very Resident Evil, the reviews for RE3 remake are quite accurate.

ancapailldorcha · 29-07-2020 12:02am

Greyfox wrote: »

RE3 remake is far better than 6, it's short but fun while it lasts. Its a little disappointing compared to the amazing RE2 remake but it does have the same combat and item management making the game very Resident Evil, the reviews for RE3 remake are quite accurate.

I'm going to disagree. As deeply flawed as RE6 was, it has tons of content. 3 campaigns, an unlockable fourth campaign and the best incarnation of the mercenaries mode. RE3 remake's campaign is at most half of one of RE6's main campaigns and completely lacks a mercenaries mode. It's not much more than a string of scripted sequences which play out identically for everyone.

Le Bruise · 29-07-2020 1:47pm

As good as Resident Evil 4 is (and I did really enjoy playing it), it always irked me that it was the game that moved the franchise away from zombies.

The Ganado of 4 and Majini of 5 just didn't hold a candle to the horror element of the walking dead. I guess it's a nostalgia thing as I can remember the craic of playing 1, 2 & 3 with my flatmates in college, shítting ourselves as we entered a new area with the distinct moan and shuffle of a zombie emanating from somewhere off camera.

I really enjoyed Leon's chapter's in Resi 6 for this very reason (the rest...not quite as much).

Thought the RE 2 remake was awesome, and am looking forward to the RE 3 remake (when it drops in price). Have only got around to playing a demo for 7...I say it's because I don't have time, but really it's because the creepy family freak me out!:rolleyes:

Azza · 29-07-2020 5:35pm

Le Bruise wrote: »

I really enjoyed Leon's chapter's in Resi 6 for this very reason (the rest...not quite as much).

Thought the RE 2 remake was awesome, and am looking forward to the RE 3 remake (when it drops in price). Have only got around to playing a demo for 7...I say it's because I don't have time, but really it's because the creepy family freak me out!:rolleyes:

Yeah Leon's campaign was quite decent actually.

In fairness to RE3 Remake it did come bundled with Resident Evil Resistance which was meant to be pretty decent.

I know people will say say no one asked for it. But no one asked for mercenary mode either when we first got that either.

Fair enough if people just aren't interested in multiplayer games though.

ancapailldorcha · 29-07-2020 6:42pm

Azza wrote: »

Yeah Leon's campaign was quite decent actually.

In fairness to RE3 Remake it did come bundled with Resident Evil Resistance which was meant to be pretty decent.

I know people will say say no one asked for it. But no one asked for mercenary mode either when we first got that either.

Fair enough if people just aren't interested in multiplayer games though.

I liked Leon's campaign as well. It had the most in common with classic Resi. Chris's could have been decent but was plagued by ammo shortages while being action focused. I had to have the AI partner, Piers fight the final boss as I only had a knife.

I don't think the comparison between Resistance and Mercenaries is fair. One is an extra mode using already created assets as an unlockable extra, the other used up precious dev time and was thrown in to flog microtransactions on the back of a single player game.

Zero-Cool · 01-08-2020 12:11pm

For anyone interested, my friend Paddy is in the middle of a 24 hour twitch stream for charity and is currently playing OG Resi 3.

http://www.twitch.tv/letssurvivepaddyplays

brady12 · 03-08-2020 8:05pm

Having never played any resi evils I’m struggling through the first one on ps4 . It’s fair hard managing the inventory !

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 03-08-2020 10:05pm

Only about 24 years behind the rest of ye, but I had a PS1 classic lying around that I haven't been bothering much with apart from the little one having the odd go at Spyro. Had forgotten how addictive Resident Evil was and decided to give it a go.

Downloading the rest of the series to throw on there. I'm pretty sure I completed the game back in the day, but I have absolutely no memory of the game or where anything is, so it's like playing it all over for the first time. Class.

recyclops · 04-08-2020 8:32am

Finished 2 and 3 remakes over the Bank hol weekend.

3 was as bad as I first remembered it, I think the hype killed it for me at first.

I was expecting RE2 again, some great sections in it

Markitron · 04-08-2020 8:51am

brady12 wrote: »

Having never played any resi evils I’m struggling through the first one on ps4 . It’s fair hard managing the inventory !

FWIW the first couple of hours is by far the hardest part of that game, push through and things get a bit easier. The inventory management becomes a bit easier when you start unlocking more shortcuts and safe rooms. Try your best to stay on top of the Crimson Heads though, that is gonna be really important.

ronano · 07-08-2020 5:10pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I'm going to disagree. As deeply flawed as RE6 was, it has tons of content. 3 campaigns, an unlockable fourth campaign and the best incarnation of the mercenaries mode. RE3 remake's campaign is at most half of one of RE6's main campaigns and completely lacks a mercenaries mode. It's not much more than a string of scripted sequences which play out identically for everyone.

Entirely agree with the above, the games true failure is that resident evil 2 remake gave them a ****ty version of nemesis. If they even just put that in, it would have been far superior to the boring as ****, tedious cut scene button press of nemesis encounters. The game would have been acceptable as a re2 remake dlc as a stand alone it has very few redeeming qualities.

The price of the thing at release for a 5 hour 30 min campaign is shocking

Jordan 199 · 04-09-2020 1:38pm

Resident Evil 7 was added to the Xbox Game Pass yesterday.

JimBurnley · 04-09-2020 1:41pm

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Resident Evil 7 was added to the Xbox Game Pass yesterday.

Added to PSnow this week too

Mr Crispy · 27-09-2020 3:01pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56_gTT-O7Nw

So this is a series rather than a movie, and is coming to Netflix in 2021. There aren't many more details other than it will focus on Leon and Claire, and will be produced and supervised by Capcom’s Hiroyuki Kobayashi.

Jordan 199 · 14-10-2020 6:55pm

Can someone recommend me another Resident Evil game? I played 2, 3 and 7. Will be playing 7 in VR soon.

ERG89 · 14-10-2020 6:58pm

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Can someone recommend me another Resident Evil game? I played 2, 3 and 7. Will be playing 7 in VR soon.

Play the first and the 4th as they are the best 2 games in the series, imo.

Markitron · 14-10-2020 8:14pm

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Can someone recommend me another Resident Evil game? I played 2, 3 and 7. Will be playing 7 in VR soon.

Well RE4 is the not only the best game of all time, it’s probably mankind’s greatest ever achievement, so that.

Homelander · 16-10-2020 11:34am

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Can someone recommend me another Resident Evil game? I played 2, 3 and 7. Will be playing 7 in VR soon.

To be honest all the main titled games are worth playing. Especially when there are remakes of the first 3 games.

Resident Evil 5 is amazing fun, mostly if you have someone for co-op, but still a decent game.

It gets a ton of hate but Resident Evil 6 is also fun to play though it is basically a brainless action game.

If you're feeling more the vibe of the first game, Revelations is good too.

greensausage · 16-10-2020 8:33pm

Markitron wrote: »

Well RE4 is the not only the best game of all time, it’s probably mankind’s greatest ever achievement, so that.

I think I must be the only resident evil fan who doesn't like re4, don't get me wrong the game play is decent, it just doesn't feel like an re game to me, I think its just the settinging it looks like Leon has time traveled back to the 17th century and he's not battling zombies instead it a cult. I think if it had been a completely separate ip I would have loved it but just can't take to it.
It was also the first step to a more action orientated game rather than survival horror.

Le Bruise · 16-10-2020 8:37pm

greensausage wrote: »

I think I must be the only resident evil fan who doesn't like re4, don't get me wrong the game play is decent, it just doesn't feel like an re game to me, I think its just the settinging it looks like Leon has time traveled back to the 17th century and he's not battling zombies instead it a cult. I think if it had been a completely separate ip I would have loved it but just can't take to it.
It was also the first step to a more action orientated game rather than survival horror.

Agreed. Brilliant game play and overall a damn good game.....but the lack of zombies irked me somewhat, and it was the end of the true ‘survival horror’ element of the series!

nix · 16-10-2020 9:26pm

greensausage wrote: »

I think I must be the only resident evil fan who doesn't like re4,

Yer not, its a **** horror game, they just went all out action to make the game look more appealing because money and hoped the fans wouldnt notice, and they were right, sadly. They did eventually though... three games later.. :pac:

Azza · 16-10-2020 9:45pm

I pity people who can't appreciate both classic RE games and RE 4.

ancapailldorcha · 16-10-2020 9:55pm

nix wrote: »

Yer not, its a **** horror game, they just went all out action to make the game look more appealing because money and hoped the fans wouldnt notice, and they were right, sadly. They did eventually though... three games later.. :pac:

I think this is grossly unfair. Resi 4 gets a lot right and breathed new life into a stagnant series. It's the right amount of cheesy and its set pieces, enemies and bosses are masterfully designed. While I enjoyed both Resi 5 & 6, I understand why they're disliked by many but 4 is a masterpiece who's biggest problem was introducing tropes the industry would just spam repeatedly such as QTE's.

Azza · 16-10-2020 10:16pm

The original RE series peaked with RE2 which was a masterpiece for its time, Nemesis was still a good game but didn't reach the peaks of 2 and it was never really intended to be the true RE3. Code Veronica didn't offer anything we hadn't seen in the previous 3 games it just had better graphics for the time. The remake of the original was great for its time but it was just that a 2002 remake of a game from 1996 with better graphics and slightly better but still crap voice acting that no longer had the charm of being so bad it was funny. I don't think anyone particularly cares for RE0.

I do have a fondness for the first three RE games and the remake but that doesn't stop me from appreciating RE4. RE4 was also a masterpiece. The opening running battle in the village was a true lightning in a bottle moment, one of the best set pieces in gaming ever.

greensausage · 16-10-2020 11:30pm

Azza wrote: »

The original RE series peaked with RE2 which was a masterpiece for its time, Nemesis was still a good game but didn't reach the peaks of 2 and it was never really intended to be the true RE3. Code Veronica didn't offer anything we hadn't seen in the previous 3 games it just had better graphics for the time. The remake of the original was great for its time but it was just that a 2002 remake of a game from 1996 with better graphics and slightly better but still crap voice acting that no longer had the charm of being so bad it was funny. I don't think anyone particularly cares for RE0.

I do have a fondness for the first three RE games and the remake but that doesn't stop me from appreciating RE4. RE4 was also a masterpiece. The opening running battle in the village was a true lightning in a bottle moment, one of the best set pieces in gaming ever.

Completely agree about re2 about being the pinicale of re, it's actually my favourite game of all time, I thing its better than its remake despite the improved graphics, controls etc.
I do think re4 is a fantastic game its just it was a disappointing resident evil game.
To be really controversial I prefer re0 to re4....

Azza · 16-10-2020 11:36pm

greensausage wrote: »

To be really controversial I prefer re0 to re4....

greensausage · 16-10-2020 11:37pm

I know azza:-) it's not something I say in public too often.

nix · 17-10-2020 12:09am

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I think this is grossly unfair. Resi 4 gets a lot right and breathed new life into a stagnant series.

Not really, they could have gone the direction of RE4 and kept it in line as a survival horror. Didnt need to turn Leon into Jet Li and have a shoot out massacre around every corner for 15 hours straight..

In fact they could have launched an entirely new game series with RE4 it was that different from its predecessors and they wouldnt have had to change much character/story wise either.. Its style of play likely would have lasted alot longer than 3 games that way also..

:pac::pac::pac:

Markitron · 17-10-2020 8:40am

greensausage wrote: »

I know azza:-) it's not something I say in public too often.

You need help desperately, but you made the important first step in admitting you have a problem. It will be a long, hard road back to becoming a functioning member of society, but it will be worth it in the end.

Best of luck to you.

Azza wrote: »

I pity people who can't appreciate both classic RE games and RE 4.

They don't need your pity, they need your help and support

Le Bruise · 17-10-2020 8:55am

Azza wrote: »

I pity people who can't appreciate both classic RE games and RE 4.

Can definitely appreciate both (enjoy all RE games, even 6)....I just wish it was zombies rather than ganados!

ancapailldorcha · 17-10-2020 9:31am

nix wrote: »

Not really, they could have gone the direction of RE4 and kept it in line as a survival horror. Didnt need to turn Leon into Jet Li and have a shoot out massacre around every corner for 15 hours straight..

In fact they could have launched an entirely new game series with RE4 it was that different from its predecessors and they wouldnt have had to change much character/story wise either.. Its style of play likely would have lasted alot longer than 3 games that way also..

:pac::pac::pac:

The old series was stagnant. They didn't radically change it for no reason.

Azza · 17-10-2020 11:09am

nix wrote: »

In fact they could have launched an entirely new game series with RE4 it was that different from its predecessors and they wouldnt have had to change much character/story wise either..
:pac::pac::pac:

The development of RE4 did actually lead to an entirely new game series. During RE4's development 4 didn't versions of the game where discarded, the first of which went on to become Devil May Cry.

Jordan 199 · 17-10-2020 8:03pm

Resident Evil 7 in PSVR is a terrifying experience. Barely scratched the surface and my stomach is already in bits.

daheadonu · 17-10-2020 9:28pm

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Resident Evil 7 in PSVR is a terrifying experience. Barely scratched the surface and my stomach is already in bits.

that first escape section with jack had me terrified couldn't play for ages:D

Greyfox · 17-10-2020 9:56pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

The old series was stagnant. They didn't radically change it for no reason.

The reason they changed it was Capcom got greedy and wanted to try to copy COD rather than appriciate the great series they had and they did it again with the terriblle RE resistance. Hopefully theyve learned there lesson now and will keep RE survival horror for good.

ancapailldorcha · 17-10-2020 10:01pm

Greyfox wrote: »

The reason they changed it was Capcom got greedy and wanted to try to copy COD rather than appriciate the great series they had and they did it again with the terriblle RE resistance. Hopefully theyve learned there lesson now and will keep RE survival horror for good.

I think this is nonsense. Resi 4 and COD have guns. That's about the height of the similarities.

Azza · 17-10-2020 10:19pm

Greyfox wrote: »

The reason they changed it was Capcom got greedy and wanted to try to copy COD rather than appriciate the great series they had and they did it again with the terriblle RE resistance. Hopefully theyve learned there lesson now and will keep RE survival horror for good.

Sorry but the suggestion that RE4's development was in any way influenced by Call of Duty is just nonsense.

Azza · 17-10-2020 10:28pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I think this is nonsense. Resi 4 and COD have guns. That's about the height of the similarities.

Beat me too it.

But if anyones want reasons

1. They are not actually similar games.
2. Code Veronica, RE0 and RE Remake under performed in sales.
3. The director of RE4 had believed classic RE games where no longer scary because people had seen all the formula had to offer at that point.
4. Call of Duty had released only 1 game and 1 expansion, which was PC only by the time of RE4's release. While it was successful, it was not yet the mega franchise it would go on to become.
5. Its highly unlikely a Japanese developer like Capcom would of been paying much attention or be influenced by FPS games which are not popular in Japan or PC games which are also not very popular in Japan.
6. RE4 development began before COD's did.

As for being greedy, ever single developer on the planet without exception wants to make more money. Absolutely nothing wrong with developers making money as long as the games they make are good.

I'm actually even struggling to see what similarities COD and RE:Resistance have to each other, micro transactions maybe?

ERG89 · 17-10-2020 10:31pm

This reminds me. I watched this interview yesterday with Shinji Mikami where he talks about his career up until around Resi 4(there is a second part in a few weeks time), need to switch on subtitles to watch it obviously. Kinda quirky how he got a job in Capcom originally.

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