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Toyota "self-charging" hybrids

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,814 ✭✭✭creedp


    There's a big need for a €10 per first hour over full charge and then a €10 a minute charge afterwards to free up charge points, that's the key to having access to all to charge points and not Nissan Leaf owners on 3 bars at 7.30 am leaving their cars on charge until they come home from work and doing this 5 days a week like a selfish ultra w@nker.

    Presumably you're referring to slow or AC or what many call destination chargers rather than Rapid chargers. There are a lot of leafs in the country so no surprise they are going to be regularly found at charge points but not sure why you are singling leafs out for special attention though as all car brands can be found hogging charge points. I regularly use the on street e-cars charge points and lately find that many of these are regularly 'hogged' by PHEV's including Range Rovers, Volvos and Porche's. Not sure who would be considered more 'selfish untra [EMAIL="w@nkers'"]w@nkers'[/EMAIL] !!

    Personally I don't believe anyone should hog a 'destination' charger all day if not charging but many don't agree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Yeah but it's Toyota's only option

    What's this then? :)
    www.toyota.ie/models/prius-plugin/


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ha yes I forgot about that, I easily forget about that grossly over priced Toyota Prius PHEV. It's a joke.

    Anyone who would buy that over a Kona for instance would be mad even though I think the Kona is too expensive for a Hyundai the Prius PHEV is too expensive for something with 8.8 Kwh battery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan




    Seemingly 23 PHEV sold by Toyota this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Anyone who would buy that over a Kona for instance would be mad even though I think the Kona is too expensive for a Hyundai the Prius PHEV is too expensive for something with 8.8 Kwh battery.

    The Kona isn't a PHEV, so not sure why you're comparing it. I agree the Prius PHV is stupidly expensive in Ireland, I'm surprised they're selling any at all, though I suspect >80% of those "sales" are demo cars. Even my 2012 Plug-in from NI was ex-demo (it was originally nearly £28k new).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    The Kona isn't a PHEV, so not sure why you're comparing it. I agree the Prius PHV is stupidly expensive in Ireland, I'm surprised they're selling any at all, though I suspect >80% of those "sales" are demo cars. Even my 2012 Plug-in from NI was ex-demo (it was originally nearly £28k new).


    How long can the PHEV go on battery only in PHEV?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    The current one will do around 40 km in the real world, which is comparable to other PHEVs out there.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Kona isn't a PHEV, so not sure why you're comparing it. I agree the Prius PHV is stupidly expensive in Ireland, I'm surprised they're selling any at all, though I suspect >80% of those "sales" are demo cars. Even my 2012 Plug-in from NI was ex-demo (it was originally nearly £28k new).

    I was saying that the price of the Prius PHEV is very high compared to the Kona EV considering the battery is tiny in the Prius PHEV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    But it's a PHEV so has an ICE too - you think they just stick that in (and the hybrid transaxle, etc.) for free? A battery is just one component, and that comparison makes little sense. PHEVs generally aren't the cheapest option, and the Prius PHV in particular is well-specced with a few new/expensive features (matrix LED headlights, carbon fibre hatch, etc.). It's not a cheap car for various reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭icom


    Self charging Hybrid Toyota , It's the future !

    Very funny !

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwa914awWDU


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Apparently, this is truly self charging!

    https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1124478_world-s-largest-ev-never-has-to-be-recharged



    The tyres make more noise than the motor!
    A quarry in Biel, Switzerland, is operating the world's largest electric vehicle, a 110-ton dump truck, to haul lime and marl off the side of a mountain to a cement factory. Perhaps best of all, it consumes no energy doing it.

    How is that possible, you ask?

    The dump truck, at 45 tons, ascends the 13-percent grade and takes on 65 tons of ore. With more than double the weight going back down the hill, the beast's regenerative braking system recaptures more than enough energy to refill the charge the eDumper used going up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Kramer


    I didn't think car companies were political but anyway, Toyota hybrids are apparently the choice for BLM :confused:.

    https://twitter.com/toyotaireland/status/1351190142715887617


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 275 ✭✭sweet_trip


    Kramer wrote: »
    oyota hybrids are apparently the choice for BLM :confused:.


    No that's just called marketing and advertising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    I ignore all that brand ambassador crap.

    I'd much prefer if they gave one to a rep so I could see what they're actually like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    If you've got toyota supplying the looters and ford supplying the police, I'll take a ford please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    ELM327 wrote: »
    If you've got toyota supplying the looters and ford supplying the police, I'll take a ford please.

    TBH, the looters is a better endorsement of the functionality of the product. You don't see many Ford trucks with machine guns mounted in the bed for a reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    McGaggs wrote: »
    TBH, the looters is a better endorsement of the functionality of the product. You don't see many Ford trucks with machine guns mounted in the bed for a reason.
    Nor do you see many hybrid toyotas with them :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Nor do you see many hybrid toyotas with them :D

    Recovering electric energy without reducing barrel speed is proving difficult.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Kramer wrote: »
    I didn't think car companies were political but anyway, Toyota hybrids are apparently the choice for BLM :confused:.

    https://twitter.com/toyotaireland/status/1351190142715887617

    I'm actually confused with your reference to black lives matters tbh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭bp_me




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Old diesel wrote: »
    I'm actually confused with your reference to black lives matters tbh

    Toyota Ireland tweeted about someone who had spoken to their staff. I'd no idea who she was so clicked on her Twitter bio, to educate myself.
    The banner that pops up is BLM. She seems to be promoting BLM.

    I assume she has some connection with Toyota - she likely drives a hybrid :pac:.

    I'm interested in Toyota as I'm thinking of one of their self charging cars - the money I'd save on fuel & electricity would be insane :D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,728 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Didn’t Toyota Ireland run a campaign a short while ago about helping to prevent catalytic converter theft from their cars???

    I’ve an idea on how to prevent cat converter thefts in Toyota cars..... but all Toyota’s cars come with IC engines so it’ll never work.......


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