Formula E - Gen.2

jv2000 · 12-04-2021 10:33am

AMKC wrote: »

Ye your right. I overreacted a little bit but I do think if what happened yesterday had of happened in a Formula one race between two teammates there would be out roure. Yes ok maybe he did not do it on purpose and had only mere seconds to think which way to go but if he could have gone left he should have gone left.

It doesn't matter anyway, de Vries is just keeping the seat warm for Hamilton next year

On a serious note though, maybe that is where they will send Bottas...

jv2000 · 12-04-2021 10:41am

Audi had such an awful weekend, they could have had the win on Saturday if it wasn't for DiGrassi's power failure. And as for yesterdays crashes... Wasted points. Wehrlein is also such a frustrating driver, he has speed from time to time but yesterday he was slowly going backwards. Sims made a fool out of him on the restart after the full course yellow and he screwed up his attack modes by copying the strategy of the driver in front of him. He should have been battling for the win but managed to finish 4th and inherited 3rd after the Nato DSQ. Nato was impressive though and his lack of experience seemed to hinder him from knowing what to do when he ran out of useable energy, an experienced driver would have coasted over the line (and probably lost 3rd but at least would have gotten something). Cassidy had a nightmare, nothing more to be said about that, hopefully he can learn from it.

TheChrisD · 12-04-2021 1:17pm

jv2000 wrote: »

Nato was impressive though and his lack of experience seemed to hinder him from knowing what to do when he ran out of useable energy, an experienced driver would have coasted over the line (and probably lost 3rd but at least would have gotten something).

tbf to Norman, Susie admitted after the race that they had an error in their software that didn't account for enough energy reduction from the safety car, so he wasn't to know that he had run out.

Harika · 12-04-2021 1:25pm

Wehrlein has such an impressive CV to show but it seems his character costs him dearly
https://drivetribe.com/p/why-pascal-wehrlein-wont-achieve-WQMUQwoYS7enQJ8UyYHA8A?iid=FJqCKTVSQ1q3uJwQflhDfg
He needs a boot up his ass as his attitude costed him several drives.

Charlie-Bravo · 16-04-2021 10:43pm

Monaco race is set for the full layout this year with a few tweaks on the St Devot corner (not to be a chicane).

https://www.fiaformulae.com/en/news/2021/april/monaco-e-prix-new-circuit-layout?utm_source=FormulaETwitter&utm_medium=SocialPost&utm_campaign=News&utm_term=Championship&utm_content=Racing

Round 7 of the 2020/21 ABB FIA Formula E World Championship - the Monaco E-Prix - will take place on May 8 at 16:00 local time (15:00 BST).

AMKC · 16-04-2021 10:48pm

Charlie-Bravo wrote: »

Monaco race is set for the full layout this year with a few tweaks on the St Devot corner (not to be a chicane).

https://www.fiaformulae.com/en/news/2021/april/monaco-e-prix-new-circuit-layout?utm_source=FormulaETwitter&utm_medium=SocialPost&utm_campaign=News&utm_term=Championship&utm_content=Racing

Round 7 of the 2020/21 ABB FIA Formula E World Championship - the Monaco E-Prix - will take place on May 8 at 16:00 local time (15:00 BST).

Oh please be live on either the BBC or Quest or even both. That is the one Fe race I would like to see live. I seen last weeks live. This one would be great to see live sure it could turn into a procession but I doubt it. In fact I would say the Formule e cars race better there now then F1 cars as they are smaller.

Charlie-Bravo · 23-04-2021 8:45am

Double header this weekend in Valentina:

Saturday 24 April, 2021
Qualifying and Super Pole
10:00 : 11:00 (IST)

Round 5: DHL Valencia E-Prix (45 mins + 1 lap)
14:04 : 15:00 (IST)

Sunday 25 April, 2021
Qualifying and Super Pole
09:00 : 10:00

Round 6: DHL Valencia E-Prix (45 mins + 1 lap)
13:04 : 14:00 (IST)

flazio · 23-04-2021 10:34am

Race Live on Quest

antodeco · 23-04-2021 2:09pm

Has anyone has issues with previous eaves on Virgin Media not having any commentary?

AMKC · 24-04-2021 12:52pm

Valentina is that in Italy or Spain?

Charlie-Bravo · 24-04-2021 1:51pm

I think it's is Europe somewhere

. It's Spain!!

The rain in Spain stays mainly in Valencia. Yes, it's raining for Round 5. Starting in a few minutes.

mr potato head · 24-04-2021 2:13pm

That's a miserable day to be in an open cockpit car :P

mr potato head · 24-04-2021 2:44pm

Plenty of passing, plus they look like a serious handful in the rain.

Edit: Mad finish!!!

guyfo · 24-04-2021 2:55pm

What an absolute joke of a race.

Dont be at yourself · 24-04-2021 2:59pm

I don’t normally watch Formula E, but turned it on there. Farcical finish.

mr potato head · 24-04-2021 3:00pm

There's going to be some serious shouting session in the Stewarts office.
The energy removal with Safety Car makes sense, but maybe only to the 2/3 point of the race?

Ghost Train · 24-04-2021 3:02pm

Funny last lap, odd whatever happened

jay48 · 24-04-2021 3:09pm

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

I don’t normally watch Formula E, but turned it on there. Farcical finish.

Same here. What a joke, if you're going to take the power away from the cars after they can do anything about it and they can't finish, why not finish it under the safety car?

jv2000 · 24-04-2021 3:26pm

Was Vandoorne using attack mode after the finish? Looked like there was a countdown timer on the timing screen next to his name. I know he also had a Fan boost.

mr potato head · 24-04-2021 3:33pm

jv2000 wrote: »

Was Vandoorne using attack mode after the finish? Looked like there was a countdown timer on the timing screen next to his name. I know he also had a Fan boost.

I think so, but he also looked like 0% crossing the line?

Charlie-Bravo · 24-04-2021 4:00pm

Interesting end to the race. You want the drivers to use as much power as possible during the race while managing the condition. I think the teams were caught out big time for that one extra lap after the race time ran out.

I'll have to watch again to see how much energy they removed for each lap the safety car was out ?!

antodeco · 24-04-2021 4:33pm

AMKC wrote: »

Valentina is that in Italy or Spain?

It's in Spain. Where the European F1 race was for a couple of years. It's where Mark Webber did his upside down trick in the car.

It's a different track obviously, but the same city.

The race was crazy overall. 5 safety cars says it all. I really don't get the power removal piece. But an arguement can be said that if some drivers were able to finish with power, than technically all drivers could have

AMKC · 24-04-2021 4:38pm

What a shambolic ending to that race. A pity as the race itself was good. Lots of real passing and battles.
I think the Formula E cars should have a separate battery power for driving behind the Safety car but that would of course had more weight to the cars. This idea of taking power away from the cars while under the safety car does not make any sense to me. Anyone got any idea what the thinking behind it was?

PopePalpatine · 24-04-2021 4:40pm

Congratulations FE for validating range anxiety.

antodeco · 24-04-2021 4:42pm

AMKC wrote: »

This idea of taking power away from the cars while under the safety car does not make any sense to me. Anyone got any idea what the thinking behind it was?

The idea is to prevent them from having lots of power and be able to go flat out. Think of it like the 100kg petrol thing in F1

mr potato head · 24-04-2021 4:45pm

AMKC wrote: »

This idea of taking power away from the cars while under the safety car does not make any sense to me. Anyone got any idea what the thinking behind it was?

I believe part of the idea was to have the added drama/challenge of managing the charge over the race.
With how much is saved behind the safety car, it was a way to keep that element in it.

I can appreciate that it is interesting to have the tactics of when to push and when to save energy.
I think it's just case where it has backfired due to a whole load of circumstances.

mr potato head · 24-04-2021 4:48pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Congratulations FE for validating range anxiety.

But it's artificial range anxiety because the cars save too much behind the SC.:D

TheChrisD · 24-04-2021 5:52pm

Everyone here saying it was a sham and a farce, that's part of the racing. All the teams knew the rules, they chose not to have enough energy conserved to account for potential situations like this, and the likes of Mercedes and Muller capitalised because they left enough in the proverbial tank :rolleyes:

Charlie-Bravo wrote: »

I'll have to watch again to see how much energy they removed for each lap the safety car was out ?!

1kWh of usable energy is removed for every full minute spent under SC/FCY. A total of 19kWh of the 52kWh available was removed this way.

jv2000 wrote: »

Was Vandoorne using attack mode after the finish? Looked like there was a countdown timer on the timing screen next to his name.

Yep, Stoffel failed to fully deplete his second attack mode before the finish, and he got a 10-second post-race penalty for it. However, he finished 12 seconds ahead of Cassidy, so keeps the podium.

tigerboon · 24-04-2021 11:49pm

antodeco wrote: »

The idea is to prevent them from having lots of power and be able to go flat out. Think of it like the 100kg petrol thing in F1

So why not just have smaller motors and go flat out? What's normally decent racing was ruined by that farce today. They can only go the speed that the circuit, grip and conditions allow anyway.

25-04-2021 12:12am

TheChrisD wrote: »

Yep, Stoffel failed to fully deplete his second attack mode before the finish, and he got a 10-second post-race penalty for it. However, he finished 12 seconds ahead of Cassidy, so keeps the podium.

So they're all about conserving power yet failing to use up power when it's unnecessary yields a penalty?

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