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20-07-2009, 01:39   #31
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I think he holds the record for most 5 star matches awarded by Meltzer. He has 24 or something.
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20-07-2009, 01:46   #32
 
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Dynamite said the same. In fairness to Misawa, no one would ever be able to equal Sayama, the first Tiger Mask, in that particular role. Once he shed the mask and wrestled under his own name, however, he surpassed anything Sayama ever did. In fact he surpassed pretty much everyone else in history.
The thing is as well, Sayama was a Junior Heavy, and a fricking revelation in the role. Misawa just didn't look as comfortable at that weight, and came into his own when he worked a more heavyweight style. The tag match where Kawada unmasked him had some awesome heat.... the pop for that moment was unreal.
We should get an intro to Misawa posted on here with his most important bouts.
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The thing is as well, Sayama was a Junior Heavy, and a fricking revelation in the role. Misawa just didn't look as comfortable at that weight, and came into his own when he worked a more heavyweight style. The tag match where Kawada unmasked him had some awesome heat.... the pop for that moment was unreal.
Awesome moment.
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We should get an intro to Misawa posted on here with his most important bouts.
Yup I jave plans to do something like this for all the legends over time. But by all means fire away if you get the urge!

I tell you what my favourite All Japan matches from the golden era are? Not the big singles matches, but those amazing 6 man tags between Misawa/Kawada and AN other Vs Jumbo's older generation. Jesus the fire the young guys showed in those matches was absolutely unreal. So much fun to watch the plucky young underdogs show absolutely no respect for the older guys at the top of the card.
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Maybe we could get Alan4L to come to Boards to give us the lowdown on whats happening in Japan.
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Maybe we could get Alan4L to come to Boards to give us the lowdown on whats happening in Japan.
Alan4L is a God, we are unworthy of his presence. That guy is the best poster on the internet, I only have to read one of his posts and it makes me want to spend the day watching wrestling. I don't know where the guy gets the time to watch all the stuff he does, hes an absolute beast and his positivity is a shining light in the internet world of jaded b*tching about how "bad" wrestling is.
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21-07-2009, 22:36   #36
 
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Did anyone look at KENTA Vs Low Ki?
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Did anyone look at KENTA Vs Low Ki?
Hopefully........?

I'm was already familiar with the match, but i noticed that Low Ki is really dominant in the match. As in, everytime there seems to be the slighest hint of a communication issue, he just blasts KENTA with a kick. Similar stuff to when he was in the tag match at Unforgettable, with Joe against Homicide and Kenta Kobashi. Ouch.

But those two dudes just absolutely click- the chemistry there is amazing, and they really pull off some slick sequences. To me, this is the sort of advancement on the early 80's Junior Heavyweight stuff, that the WWE should be pushing a little more.
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Hopefully........?

I'm was already familiar with the match, but i noticed that Low Ki is really dominant in the match. As in, everytime there seems to be the slighest hint of a communication issue, he just blasts KENTA with a kick. Similar stuff to when he was in the tag match at Unforgettable, with Joe against Homicide and Kenta Kobashi. Ouch.

But those two dudes just absolutely click- the chemistry there is amazing, and they really pull off some slick sequences. To me, this is the sort of advancement on the early 80's Junior Heavyweight stuff, that the WWE should be pushing a little more.
I think there are so many little things in that match that are really great. Right from the opening lock up when Ki goes for the arm bar over the ropes and jumps to the floor landing on his feet, to the usual great finishing sequance. Just a great stiff, athletic contest, that combines well exectuted spots with realistic looking wrestling and a match you could watch over and over.

Also do you think they'll let Ki work nice and stiff if/when hes called up to the main roster? I remember after he did that try out on Metal or Velocity (can't remember which) they didn't sign him as they thought he worked "too stiff."
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Also do you think they'll let Ki work nice and stiff if/when hes called up to the main roster? I remember after he did that try out on Metal or Velocity (can't remember which) they didn't sign him as they thought he worked "too stiff."
Was that the one against Essa Rios? GREAT MATCH. I don't think they will to be honest, and i think the only time you'll really get to see that is if he's up against someone who was already familiar with him (Punk/Bourne/Kendrick), or who goes for that style themselves (Regal/Finlay etc...). Worse still, they'll probably condense his stuff down into a couple of innovative looking spots, and make everything else completely generic. But the matches i've seen him in down in FCW look great, so who knows?
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Was a pretty good match, just short of being great but I already forget why I think that. I did enjoy the Low Ki/TJ Wilson FCW match I saw just before I watched this a bit more, and if they let Ki work like he did in that he'll be just fine, but that's a big if.
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Did anyone look at KENTA Vs Low Ki?
I absolutely LOVE this match. Must have watched it more than any other match I reckon. When I saw it first, I had never seen either of these guys before. Afterwards I made it my business to see as much as possible of both.

Seriously, anyone who is reading this thread and not looking at the videos, watch this match, it is a joy to behold.
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Did anyone look at KENTA Vs Low Ki?
Yup. Watched it twice.

I think it was a great bout. Very athletic. Even though the match had its share of high spots, they still looked like they were actually trying to hurt each other, which isn't easy to do.

Starting with the good points: KENTA's heelish taunting kicks made me smile. Especially the one following the slingshot. I thought it was a great incorporation of classic heelishness (may not be a real world) in the modern style

Low Ki's bodyscissors. After showing how strong his legs are with his kicks, it made it believable as move that could do some damage. Actually, that whole part when Ki worked on the torso was great.

The butterfly suplex/bridge/armbar. Don't see stuff like that in Sports Entertainment.

The sense of escalation in the match. Like, going from the Falcon Arrow to the Super Falcon Arrow. It was a nice continuation.


The bad: I thought the armbar spot at the start of the match was wasted. It was great from a psycology point of view, as it showed Ki wasn't intimidated by the champ and wasn't going to play nice. But it would have been better if Ki had then gone on to target the arm. Instead, Low Ki had his arm targeted be KENTA.

The slaps. One 'slap off' in a match is more than enough.

I think the match went on 2 minutes too long. The crowd were red hot at one stage. They were exhausted when the finish did come.
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Good to se people watching and showing an interest, I'd urge others to do the same, its a fantastic match and would be a real eye opener to a lot of people jaded on mainstream wrestling.

Tricity: Now that you say it, you're right that they should have played into the armbar attempt that Ki made at the start, its like he went into the match with a very specific plan and then abandoned the idea 30 seconds in. Theres nothing I find more rewarding when I'm watching wrestling than someone CONSISTENTLY working a bodypart and his opponent going along with it and selling it correctly and working the story into the finish of the match. Its one of the reasons I'm marking so hard for Arn Anderson at the moment.

As for the slaps, they're VERY commonplace in Puro, especially when you have a plucky underdog trying to gai the respect of a veteran. I enjoy them to be honest, but then again, I like uber stiff work anyway.

Thanks for aking the time to reply man, makes putting the match up worhwhile to see someone enjoying it.

Oh and Gimmick, I knew well you'd enjoy my first choice bai.

Everyone feel free to suggest the next match to be put up. I'm thinking some 94/95 new Japan juniors matches, or possibly some Dragon Gate, which will blow the minds of those not familiar with it.
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For KENTA matches in ROH, I fell in love with his match with Davey Richards this year.
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For KENTA matches in ROH, I fell in love with his match with Davey Richards this year.
That match would have been an absolute masterpiece if they didn't botch the finish twice. That brought it down to only awesome.
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