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The Batman (Matt Reeves) ***spoilers from post 1030***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    I'm pretty sure the development of every new Batman film begins with the director saying "he's going to be more of a detective in this" and yet somehow it never really happens.


    That sounds about right tbh


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Haha yeah, there's no way in hell any modern Blockbuster oriented studio is going to let a Superhero film 'just' be a Detective Noir flick. Oh sure, the script might start that way but a few phantom rewrites later & you got sky-lasers all over the climax.

    Maybe Chris Nolan had the clout to force his own vision of what amounted to a big-budget crime thriller, but with the greatest respect to Matt Reeves - he's no Chris Nolan.

    I'd read that Joker film was being rewritten while they were shooting, and while that's not in of itself a sign of a nervy studio, I still await that post test-screening, panicked reshoot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    I liked what he did with the Planet of the Apes films. It will come down to how he manages and/or resists studio interference alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Haha yeah, there's no way in hell any modern Blockbuster oriented studio is going to let a Superhero film 'just' be a Detective Noir flick. Oh sure, the script might start that way but a few phantom rewrites later & you got sky-lasers all over the climax.

    Maybe Chris Nolan had the clout to force his own vision of what amounted to a big-budget crime thriller, but with the greatest respect to Matt Reeves - he's no Chris Nolan.

    I'd read that Joker film was being rewritten while they were shooting, and while that's not in of itself a sign of a nervy studio, I still await that post test-screening, panicked reshoot.
    Pter wrote: »
    I liked what he did with the Planet of the Apes films. It will come down to how he manages and/or resists studio interference alright.

    Considering the complete cluster f**k they made of JL and the shockening fact that it got more positive reviews then MOS and BvS, my hope is that whatever they do they don't do what they are probably going to do . .

    My only hope is the Joker is unique , dark and very successful. Nolan's Batman was a work of art and unique in that its a completely different kind of movie to the conveyor belt of Marvel cookie cut movies. Don't get me wrong, I like Marvel movies but desperately wanted to see DC do something different and liked what they tried under Snyder.

    WW was effectively a marvel movie copy, hence its popularity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Considering the complete cluster f**k they made of JL and the shockening fact that it got more positive reviews then MOS and BvS, my hope is that whatever they do they don't do what they are probably going to do . .

    My only hope is the Joker is unique , dark and very successful. Nolan's Batman was a work of art and unique in that its a completely different kind of movie to the conveyor belt of Marvel cookie cut movies. Don't get me wrong, I like Marvel movies but desperately wanted to see DC do something different and liked what they tried under Snyder.

    WW was effectively a marvel movie copy, hence its popularity.

    Yes WB need to go back to doing their own thing and not worry about appeasing the average dope who only wants one thing from the genre.

    Looking forward to this and Joker. No interest in what the DCEU has become and I mean that literally, as in I walked out of Aquaman I'm disgust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Yes WB need to go back to doing their own thing and not worry about appeasing the average dope who only wants one thing from the genre.

    Looking forward to this and Joker. No interest in what the DCEU has become and I mean that literally, as in I walked out of Aquaman I'm disgust.

    Aquaman confirmed my concerns. It was very poor movie and has been their most successful! I’d say the WB motto at this stage is “make movies sh*tter”.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Aquaman was 'The Room' of comic book movies, so bad it's actually entertaining, but nonetheless just utterly horrible in every way. How it got better reviews than BvS and some others is beyond me.

    The only genuinely solid thing in the DCEU at this point is probably Titans on TV, and even though I thought Wonder Woman was pretty average, it's still solid to be fair.

    I feel bad for Affleck, one of the better Batman portrayals (in BvS in any case) but somewhat lost in the negative reaction to the films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,495 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Richard Madden already rumoured for the role, he is linked to everything :p


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Richard Madden already rumoured for the role, he is linked to everything :p

    Preusmably his agent trying desperately to give him that post Game of Thrones career bump. Though he's what... 3, 4 years off the show? For all the series' relative fame, the acting ability of much of its cast was always pretty flakey IMO. Madden wasn't the worst but still floated around the "smell the fart" territory of emoting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,495 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Preusmably his agent trying desperately to give him that post Game of Thrones career bump. Though he's what... 3, 4 years off the show? For all the series' relative fame, the acting ability of much of its cast was always pretty flakey IMO. Madden wasn't the worst but still floated around the "smell the fart" territory of emoting.

    He is hot more from Bodyguard than Game of Thrones at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    I wanted Deathstroke vs Batman with Damien/Talia and Ra's Al Ghul involved could have been done well with Affleck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Preusmably his agent trying desperately to give him that post Game of Thrones career bump. Though he's what... 3, 4 years off the show? For all the series' relative fame, the acting ability of much of its cast was always pretty flakey IMO. Madden wasn't the worst but still floated around the "smell the fart" territory of emoting.

    Try 6 years come June believe it or not.

    Madden has carved out a decent little career for himself post GoT but can't see him for this role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    Madden is more Bond that Batman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,495 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I wanted Deathstroke vs Batman with Damien/Talia and Ra's Al Ghul involved could have been done well with Affleck

    Isn't Joe Manganiello signed up as Deathstroke?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Isn't Joe Manganiello signed up as Deathstroke?

    It was hm with lex on the boat in the post credit scene for Justice League. He was signed on for the role but who knows what'll happen now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    We should probably get the titel of the Thread Changed... the directors name maybe...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    We should probably get the titel of the Thread Changed... the directors name maybe...

    Done. Not sure if "The Batman" is the final title, but it will do for now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,529 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    World Exclusive. It looks like Arnie Hammer is in talks to be The Batman.

    https://revengeofthefans.com/2019/02/18/armie-hammer-is-in-final-talks-to-be-the-batman-exclusive/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,917 ✭✭✭nix


    Arnie Hammer

    Ugh..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Wasn’t he meant to play Batman in George Miller’s Justice League?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,881 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Well he is the All American Boy like Cavill with the perfect comicbook hero Jawline.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Ipso wrote: »
    Wasn’t he meant to play Batman in George Miller’s Justice League?

    Correct; fado fado he was in line to be batman. Can't quite recall how far that production got before it was canned.

    Not that familiar with Hammer's work tbh, he seems to be popping up in indie stuff lately...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Enjoyed him in The Lone Ranger even if the movie was meh (barring the train chase scene).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Pter wrote: »
    Enjoyed him in The Lone Ranger even if the movie was meh (barring the train chase scene).

    I thought he was also decent in "the man from uncle" which was better then I expected it to be. Interesting that he worked with Cavill in that movie . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Drumpot wrote:
    I thought he was also decent in "the man from uncle" which was better then I expected it to be. Interesting that he worked with Cavill in that movie . .


    Agree. Interesting point!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Hammer is a good looking guy and a decent actor, but hasn't got a lot of range and comes across as quite vacuous. I didn't think much of him in Call Me By Your Name, for example. However, his best roles have involved him playing rich dudes, so playboy Bruce Wayne should be no sweat to him. But I'd say the dualism and psychology of the character and carrying such a big movie will be a problem for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Hammer is a good looking guy and a decent actor, but hasn't got a lot of range and comes across as quite vacuous. I didn't think much of him in Call Me By Your Name, for example. However, his best roles have involved him playing rich dudes, so playboy Bruce Wayne should be no sweat to him. But I'd say the dualism and psychology of the character and carrying such a big movie will be a problem for him.

    I don't know, the first time I saw hammer was in reaper and that was exactly what I thought . . An attractive guy who will play the jock or cocky lad and will make a career of it. I didn't think I would like this guy at all.

    But in the Lone ranger and TMFU I thought he showed a redeemable quality in terms of being an action man of sorts that's more then just a pretty boy relying on his pretty boy looks. He played The hero role in TLR well and a believable secret agent in TMFU. You could argue that he was better then the material he had to work with in both these popcorn flicks. I haven't seen "call me by your name" but he got really good reviews.

    And that asides who would of thought Michael Keaton (Beetlejuice - one of my favourite insane characters of all time) would of been such a good Batman ? And Christian Bale, the thought of him as Batman is kind of crazy when you think of what kind of roles he did before he donned the cape. In many regards I think Equilibriam gave us an early glimpse of his action credentials, but American Pshyco showed an unhinged acting strength that I think made for a very good Bruce Wayne when he was trying to figure out his place in Gotham. I actually thought Affleck was a great Batman, but all three brought something different to the character until TJL abomination where WB lost their stones and bowed to "Marvel cookie cutter" demand.

    I think Hammer could be a good Batman with the right material.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,495 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    World Exclusive. It looks like Arnie Hammer is in talks to be The Batman.

    https://revengeofthefans.com/2019/02/18/armie-hammer-is-in-final-talks-to-be-the-batman-exclusive/

    My first thought is he is very tall :o:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭homerun_homer


    It has already been debunked that Armie is in talks. They want someone under 30 for Bruce/Batman.


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭El Duda


    Armie Hammer's character in Call Me By Your name was meant to be in his mid 20's.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    At 32 Hammer seems the perfect age. Batman in his 20s doesn't seem right to me. It also suggests they are doing the bloody origin story again.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    At 32 Hammer seems the perfect age. Batman in his 20s doesn't seem right to me. It also suggests they are doing the bloody origin story again.

    We do need to know how Bruce became batman. What happened to his parents anyway? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭brevity


    Why is Batman younger than me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    brevity wrote: »
    Why is Batman younger than me?

    Because the universe hates us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭brevity


    Seems I have the same birthday as Armie Hammer so that’s some consolation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭homerun_homer


    At 32 Hammer seems the perfect age. Batman in his 20s doesn't seem right to me. It also suggests they are doing the bloody origin story again.

    Apparently they want to go against the expectations for Batman by looking for younger actor to play a younger Batman.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    World Exclusive. It looks like Arnie Hammer is in talks to be The Batman.

    https://revengeofthefans.com/2019/02/18/armie-hammer-is-in-final-talks-to-be-the-batman-exclusive/

    I see this website being linked to a lot lately around the web. Not sure how much credibility they have....based on what I've seen not a lot.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    brevity wrote: »
    Why is Batman younger than me?

    And how come batman doesn’t dance anymore?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭brevity


    Use your nails boys


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,881 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    brevity wrote: »
    Why is Batman younger than me?

    You could be Batman's Boy Wonder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    I keep telling you; he is 73 years old and he is dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,881 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Robert Patterson Cast as Batman.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 Aoife2017


    The Vampire Batman so...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Great Watchmen promo released then this news,the comic book god is cruel.

    He can't be worse than Clooney can he.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Robert Patterson Cast as Batman.

    I'm fine with this.....DCEU has ruined things for me to the point I don't care anymore about complaining. Let Reeves do his thing.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    In fairness, Patterson is a decent actor, he's just cursed with those gay shiny vampire movies on his CV forever.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Pattinson is a great choice and anyone who thinks "Twilight" clearly hadn't been paying attention to this career...


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    In fairness, Patterson is a decent actor, he's just cursed with those gay shiny vampire movies on his CV forever.

    Exactly. I never rated Patterson then I watched the film Good Time and it shocked me to find out he actually can act. Great film.

    I have a friend who is crazy for Batman. I messaged him today telling him and I thought it was funny.
    Me: Did you hear Robert Patterson is the new Batman?
    Friend: Like the twilight fella?
    Me: Yeah
    Friend: He'll be better than Ben Affleck anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    He doesn’t have a chin. Batman is all chin. He will have to bulk up his chin.

    Chin.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Great choice! And at least it wasn’t Hammer.


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