Dublin Fire service recruitment? Anyone know??

Rob_1990 · 08-11-2019 2:30pm

Would it be worth asking for a review of my result? I feel I was very close to the number they're bringing to stage 2

bono_v · 08-11-2019 2:32pm

Rob_1990 wrote: »

Would it be worth asking for a review of my result? I feel I was very close to the number they're bringing to stage 2

Absolutely nothing to lose.

JTH80 · 09-11-2019 1:27pm

If it’s true that they are only taking 932 to the next stage and if it’s true that they are making a panel of 300 will then any one that has made it this far already has a great chance of getting onto the panel. It’s a one in 3 chance already before it’s cut again for the interviews. Usually it’s a 1 in 4 chance by the time the interviews come around. The odds are heavily in your favour already!

TallGlass2 · 09-11-2019 8:56pm

I mentioned I have been around the block with these tests, Garda, Fire, IR, ESB.

The number one rule is, patience. Lots of them, these things take ages.

Secondly, unless something is set in stone, then it's just guessing unless it's noted somewhere it's hear say.

So far we know, PAS haven't said to anyone they are out. They have given an OOM out, invited a certain amount to the next stage. That's what we know.

From my experience with PAS, this is similar to the how they operated the Garda intake, IE, 'bands', although they haven't mentioned it. This is band 1, people in band 1 are first up, it doesn't rule anyone else out. PAS will have a standard that DCC want, if PAS don't get that and most likely won't from this band (sorry everyone) then they'll move onto band 2, and so on, until they get the 300 for the intake. It's annoying not been first up, but used that to your advantage, look ahead to what could come up in the next stage, do a bit of preparation while you wait, gather information on the next stage from anyone taking it.

And again, back to rule 1, patience.

Jordon_k · 09-11-2019 9:19pm

Right lads I emailed to get clarity and this is the email I got in response

Thank you for your email.

Unfortunately we are only calling candidates who placed up to and including 932 on the order of merit to Stage 2 of the competition.

As you have not fallen within this category you will not be progressing to Stage 2 at this time.

We have no plans at the moment to call anymore candidates forward however should the need arise to call more and we reach your order of merit we will be in contact with you.

I apologise that my response could not have been more favourable.

Kind Regards

It’s not saying for definite that you are out but for the foreseeable future there not bringing anyone else like above said if the first batch don’t meet the standards they move into batch two
Hope this helps in some ways

JTH80 · 09-11-2019 9:24pm

The only thing is timeframe. Interviews are set for January. So they won’t have time to get the first batch in and see who meets the standard and then get another batch in all before January interviews.

Tardis · 09-11-2019 9:30pm

JTH80 wrote: »

The only thing is timeframe. Interviews are set for January. So they won’t have time to get the first batch in and see who meets the standard and then get another batch in all before January interviews.

There won't be a second batch in my opinion. The 300 panel will be formed from the 932

TallGlass2 · 09-11-2019 9:40pm

Tardis wrote: »

There won't be a second batch in my opinion. The 300 panel will be formed from the 932

As good as it is for us that got called, I just can't see them pulling that number from 900 odd people.

Are we sure 300 is the panel size?

Fire1985 · 09-11-2019 9:50pm

Tardis wrote: »

There won't be a second batch in my opinion. The 300 panel will be formed from the 932[/quote

This is correct . They’ll take forward from the 932.

If they make a panel of 300 it’d take 5/6 years to use up .1 class a year . Maybe it is 300 but I doubt it . More like 150-200

JTH80 · 09-11-2019 9:53pm

TallGlass2 wrote: »

As good as it is for us that got called, I just can't see them pulling that number from 900 odd people.

Are we sure 300 is the panel size?

If any previous dfb campaigns are anything to go by there will not be another batch.
Wouldn’t be surprised if only around 800 turn up for the next phase between cheating accounts etc.
300 was all the talk coming from dfb management but they are cutting it really fine to get 300 suitable candidates from only 932 left.

TallGlass2 · 09-11-2019 9:57pm

Fire1985 wrote: »

Tardis wrote: »

There won't be a second batch in my opinion. The 300 panel will be formed from the 932[/quote

This is correct . They’ll take forward from the 932.

If they make a panel of 300 it’d take 5/6 years to use up .1 class a year . Maybe it is 300 but I doubt it . More like 150-200

The last panel was 4 years, 2016, remember it well!

Did they get all 200 filled in the end?

I suppose thinking about it, they took less to stage two last time? 650 or so?

I am pretty sure at interview last time also, the people getting the green like where getting 85%+ as that's what DCC said was the average point wise of those getting past interview, think I got 79%.

It's a straight up, cut throat competition.

A few people on here asked me for the FF job description handbook from DCC, I gave it out, but the mindset is ingrained in your mind, 'Don't give it to them, they could get ahead of you'.

kingstevii · 11-11-2019 6:34pm

Another mate was 1080,he just got a call to pick his date. So they're going to fill the 932

wilson palacios · 11-11-2019 6:47pm

A word of advice for anyone on a panel.

I previously got onto the final panel. (around 2012) Done the aptitude and main interview. Thought I had the job. Number seventy something on the final panel of 200 recruits.

4 years of waiting and they simply disbanded the panel altogether and ran a brand new recruitment drive about 6 months later. It broke my heart, I was so annoyed i didnt bother applying again even though it was my dream job.

So my advice is, dont stop your own career in whatever you are doing at present just because you get on a panel. It means nothing to them to just stop recruiting from the panel. Good luck to all who are in the mix!

Jordon_k · 11-11-2019 9:11pm

kingstevii wrote: »

Another mate was 1080,he just got a call to pick his date. So they're going to fill the 932

When did he get this call today ?

kingstevii · 11-11-2019 9:25pm

Jordon_k wrote: »

When did he get this call today ?

Closing date for applying for aptitude test for first 932 was 12 o clock today. He got an email this afternoon. so i presume therell be another round in another 4 or 5 days.. Or until the 932 is filled..

UniquePatch · 11-11-2019 10:56pm

Are more people getting called to do the test or is it only to fill up the 932?

davinci88 · 12-11-2019 3:55pm

This might be worth its weight in Gold for a few !

http://testpreparations.ie/dublin-fire-brigade-firefighter-stage-2/

I did the 2 day course back in October and i would highly reccomend them !

I just booked it myself and hadn't came across it until i rang them, i was actually ringing up to get some advice moving forward !

Tardis · 12-11-2019 4:13pm

davinci88 wrote: »

This might be worth its weight in Gold for a few !

http://testpreparations.ie/dublin-fire-brigade-firefighter-stage-2/

I did the 2 day course back in October and i would highly reccomend them !

I just booked it myself and hadn't came across it until i rang them, i was actually ringing up to get some advice moving forward !

But wasn't everything in round 2 covered in the 2 day course because it was normally also in round 1

davinci88 · 12-11-2019 5:10pm

Tardis wrote: »

But wasn't everything in round 2 covered in the 2 day course because it was normally also in round 1

Maybe !

But i did that course 5 weeks ago and there was alot in it !

You can't effectively study at home for at least 2 of the tests in stage 2 in my opinion ! Anyone in the mix will know what i am talking about.

If I get onto the Panel it will have been Well worth it in my opinion and I will take all the help i can get to get me there !

didds · 12-11-2019 9:02pm

davinci88 wrote: »

Maybe !

You can't effectively study at home for at least 2 of the tests in stage 2 in my opinion ! Anyone in the mix will know what i am talking about

Hi. Why do you say you can't effectively study at home for 2 of the tests? Aren't there examples on the link sent?

Tardis · 12-11-2019 9:43pm

didds wrote: »

Hi. Why do you say you can't effectively study at home for 2 of the tests? Aren't there examples on the link sent?

I reckon they ment commitments at home

UniquePatch · 12-11-2019 10:21pm

Are they looking for 300 for the panel?

Tardis · 12-11-2019 11:14pm

UniquePatch wrote: »

Are they looking for 300 for the panel?

Panel of 300 with 3 year lifespan

UniquePatch · 13-11-2019 4:25pm

Tardis wrote: »

Panel of 300 with 3 year lifespan

With 932 on the next stage so a 1/3 chance ? Crazy

Tardis · 13-11-2019 4:26pm

UniquePatch wrote: »

With 932 on the next stage so a 1/3 chance ? Crazy

With retirement's and early retirement's they could do with 2 classes a year for 3 years coming out

rd1izb7lvpuksx · 13-11-2019 5:21pm

Tardis wrote: »

I reckon they ment commitments at home

I don't think there's any study that can be done for the aptitude tests - they're tests of aptitude, not knowledge. It's hard to see the benefit of the linked course, to be honest.

Fire1985 · 13-11-2019 5:59pm

Carolyn Big Cereal wrote: »

I don't think there's any study that can be done for the aptitude tests - they're tests of aptitude, not knowledge. It's hard to see the benefit of the linked course, to be honest.

The prep courses are very good and give you an idea of what’s coming up . Plus the more time you can practice the better . I’ve done them before and got the job .

Atlantic101 · 13-11-2019 7:14pm

What size are the classes generally? From previous posts I gather approximately 40?

If I’m lucky enough to make it on to the panel it will be tough waiting for them to reach me if I’m at the end! Here’s hoping I make it that far

davinci88 · 13-11-2019 7:16pm

@Tardis @didds @Donny345

As i said Guys anyone in the mix will know what can and cant be studied at home from the Pre test information recieved.
I myself am really looking forward to the Stage 2 prep course and after doing the 2 day course prior to stage 1 i am 100% certain that these guys know what they are talking about and only jumped at the chance to do it !

This is a Huge move for me and when i made the decision to attempt it again I decided i would make it my life goal and i am willing to give it 100% effort at every stage ! I am studying psychometric tests/Sudoku/Maths little and often the last few months in order to keep my brain in the zone and i am seeking as much info on the DFB as i can get while also learning as much about the role as possible.

This to me is what i NEED to do right now and as i said before i seek as much help at every stage as i possibly can without compromising myself !

I believe that having your head in the books is not enough if you want to be on that panel !

I am doing this my way and noone elses this time round , if i get there ill be proud as punch , if i dont itll have been good practice for 2023!

Fire1985 · 13-11-2019 7:50pm

Atlantic101 wrote: »

What size are the classes generally? From previous posts I gather approximately 40?

If I’m lucky enough to make it on to the panel it will be tough waiting for them to reach me if I’m at the end! Here’s hoping I make it that far

Classes are supposed be dropping to 38 instead of the biggest which has been 48. The current class is about 30 I think . The large 48 classes aren’t working out.

The ff class at the moment split to allow previous recruits do their medic training after being on shift as a ff for 2/3 years . There’s 11 of them on shift as ff and will join the next recruit class to complete paramedic training.

They’re chasing their tales at the moment

UniquePatch · 14-11-2019 1:38am

So finish about 700/932 to get interview ? Or?

Dooj · 14-11-2019 2:16pm

Does anyone know if the order of merit from stage one carries on to stage 2, or is it a fresh scoreboard from stage 2 -3. Thanks

bono_v · 14-11-2019 2:54pm

Dooj wrote: »

Does anyone know if the order of merit from stage one carries on to stage 2, or is it a fresh scoreboard from stage 2 -3. Thanks

Fresh scoreboard.

UniquePatch · 14-11-2019 3:37pm

bono_v wrote: »

Fresh scoreboard.

I’ve heard it’s a total score of every test combined

JTH80 · 14-11-2019 7:34pm

UniquePatch wrote: »

I’ve heard it’s a total score of every test combined

It said somewhere on the application that score from aptitude will count towards overall score. The first online test was more a questionnaire.
I’ve a hunch that having family in the fire brigade might make a difference to your interview score aswell.

P.C.Plod · 14-11-2019 10:57pm

The 932 spots have been filled and no one else going to be called from here on in unless there’s a complete disaster in stage 2 aptitude results.

radar12 · 14-11-2019 11:04pm

I can’t understand how they expect to fill 300 posts with really high quality candidates from such a small pool . I’m sure there are some really good candidates in the mix but equally there must be a significant number who are not going to excel at the next stage and not going to excel at interview. Why are they limiting the number going forward at this stage so much? It makes no sense to me.

Tardis · 14-11-2019 11:09pm

radar12 wrote: »

I can’t understand how they expect to fill 300 posts with really high quality candidates from such a small pool . I’m sure there are some really good candidates in the mix but equally there must be a significant number who are not going to excel at the next stage and not going to excel at interview. Why are they limiting the number going forward at this stage so much? It makes no sense to me.

932 is a much higher figure for round 2 to previous campaigns. It's all about the training

radar12 · 14-11-2019 11:10pm

JTH80 wrote: »

It said somewhere on the application that score from aptitude will count towards overall score. The first online test was more a questionnaire.
I’ve a hunch that having family in the fire brigade might make a difference to your interview score aswell.

I think that’s a given, not just a hunch.

radar12 · 14-11-2019 11:12pm

Tardis wrote: »

932 is a much higher figure for round 2 to previous campaigns. It's all about the training

Do you mean that they are trying to fit around training schedules or that they’ll take anyone reasonably acceptable and train them up?

Tardis · 14-11-2019 11:23pm

radar12 wrote: »

Do you mean that they are trying to fit around training schedules or that they’ll take anyone reasonably acceptable and train them up?

The quality of the training received. I'm not saying anyone can do the job with the right training, but I've seen dozens of the people who have applied for this competition and if it's a glimpse of the whole 932 the DFB will get 300 good firefighters from this campaign

JTH80 · 14-11-2019 11:34pm

radar12 wrote: »

I can’t understand how they expect to fill 300 posts with really high quality candidates from such a small pool . I’m sure there are some really good candidates in the mix but equally there must be a significant number who are not going to excel at the next stage and not going to excel at interview. Why are they limiting the number going forward at this stage so much? It makes no sense to me.

It’s madness alright. If you are filling 300 places you’d want to be interviewing at least 900 people.
But happy days for anyone that gets to the interview. You won’t have a better chance of getting into the panel than this.

radar12 · 14-11-2019 11:40pm

I have personal reason unfortunately to know that some absolutely excellent candidates have been ruled out far too early and arbitrarily based on one online test taken at home. Candidates that could excel at the next round and at interview and as firefighters and paramedics.

JTH80 · 14-11-2019 11:44pm

radar12 wrote: »

I have personal reason unfortunately to know that some absolutely excellent candidates have been ruled out far too early and arbitrarily based on one online test taken at home. Candidates that could excel at the next round and at interview and as firefighters and paramedics.

Yep that’s the unfortunate nature of these cut throat campaigns. Great candidates ruled out early doors that would be great assets.

P.C.Plod · 14-11-2019 11:52pm

All comes down to budget. Whittle it down as quickly and cheaply as possible.
I find it odd the “big cut” comes at a time where anyone can sit in front of a computer, not necessarily the person that applied.
But at the same time they need to watch the budget. Wonder would the money spent on advertising be better invested in the process.
I’d say very few applied because they saw it on a bus.

Quadrivium · 14-11-2019 11:58pm

radar12 wrote: »

I have personal reason unfortunately to know that some absolutely excellent candidates have been ruled out far too early and arbitrarily based on one online test taken at home. Candidates that could excel at the next round and at interview and as firefighters and paramedics.

To be honest, stage 1 was a joke.
It was mainly ridiculously simple questions and resulted in what appears to be very vague scores awarded not based on any real aptitude or intelligence but more so on gender, age and other arbitrary factors. I would imagine stage 2 will tell a very different story as it involves actual aptitude tests such as math and verbal reasoning....it will no doubt result in a huge cull, unless the cut off point is very low.

radar12 · 14-11-2019 11:59pm

P.C.Plod wrote: »

All comes down to budget. Whittle it down as quickly and cheaply as possible.
I find it odd the “big cut” comes at a time where anyone can sit in front of a computer, not necessarily the person that applied.
But at the same time they need to watch the budget. Wonder would the money spent on advertising be better invested in the process.
I’d say very few applied because they saw it on a bus.

That’s what baffles me, surely the big cut should happen after the candidates actually present them selves for testing.

P.C.Plod · 15-11-2019 12:06am

A lot of competition from all over for these types of jobs. Just think the budgets gets misspent but thats always the case with public service jobs and hiring with the use of third parties. They also want/need this process moved quickly.
A lot of people deserve to be in there and there will be others that had people take the test for them and had help.
The aptitude will weed them out. Well done everyone who got through and deserve to be there.

Fire1985 · 15-11-2019 10:42am

radar12 wrote: »

I can’t understand how they expect to fill 300 posts with really high quality candidates from such a small pool . I’m sure there are some really good candidates in the mix but equally there must be a significant number who are not going to excel at the next stage and not going to excel at interview. Why are they limiting the number going forward at this stage so much? It makes no sense to me.

The panels the same as the last campaign. About 150 . 3/4 classes

TallGlass2 · 15-11-2019 11:36am

P.C.Plod wrote: »

All comes down to budget. Whittle it down as quickly and cheaply as possible.
I find it odd the “big cut” comes at a time where anyone can sit in front of a computer, not necessarily the person that applied.
But at the same time they need to watch the budget. Wonder would the money spent on advertising be better invested in the process.
I’d say very few applied because they saw it on a bus.

Agree with you, it is good to see PAS try address cheating with putting state 2 in house. I think that's a good move. As I said if I get put out at stage 2 then so be it. That was my test. It was fair on my part and that's what it's deemed, I would also know the other taking the test done so fairly too.

Dublin Fire service recruitment? Anyone know??

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