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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Base price wrote: »
    There used to be a couple of them in Rivervalley.

    In the park ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    NcdJd wrote: »
    In the park ?
    Yes, between the Forest road entrance and the steel bridge there’s a hedge that runs perpendicular to the path. There used to be some growing there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Base price wrote: »
    Yes, between the Forest road entrance and the steel bridge there’s a hedge that runs perpendicular to the path. There used to be some growing there.

    The sausage :)

    Edit There was a wooded area there that people went to drink cans. After you cross the bridge heading towards rivervalley. It was known as the Sausage. I was there one Halloween with friends and ended up having to walk home as I was black from the smoke of the tyre thrown on the fire so was too embarrassed to get the bus. Had to climb in the bathroom window as my parents would have killed me if they saw the state of me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭endainoz




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    endainoz wrote: »

    Was it yourself Endainoz who was planning on putting something in a shed to attract barn owls?

    Seen a barn owl on Halloween night. I sighted another one in the same field later but was probably the same one.

    Good information here re nest box construction and placement if you didn't see it already

    https://www.barnowltrust.org.uk/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭endainoz


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Was it yourself Endainoz who was planning on putting something in a shed to attract barn owls?

    Seen a barn owl on Halloween night. I sighted another one in the same field later but was probably the same one.

    Good information here re nest box construction and placement if you didn't see it already

    https://www.barnowltrust.org.uk/

    Indeed it was, I have seen the plans for the barn owl box alright but just haven't got around to making it. One of those jobs on the long finger, you know yourself!

    On an unrelated note, I can't understand how this new pilot scheme would be targeted at 'non glas' farmers.

    Two things here: first I'm not sure how much sense this makes, there were surely plenty of people who didn't bother with glas on purpose because it didn't fit into their system or that they didn't see the benefits of joining an environmental scheme because they might not want to be restricted in spraying or topping their paddocks or whatever, which is fine by the way, not making dogs at them. I just can't see these same farmers to be that interested.

    Secondly, the narrative that lads were stuck in AEOS were stuck in their contract and couldn't join GLAS dosent hold up either with GLAS having different entry years. (I joined GLAS 3 myself because I had to finish an AEOS contract)

    Anyways, sorry for the long winded post! Any thoughts?

    Check this out on Agriland - Pilot scheme to be introduced for non-GLAS farmers next year https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/pilot-scheme-to-be-introduced-for-non-glas-farmers-next-year/


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Fluppen


    As a 'non GLAS farmer' I'd be very happy to enter new environmental schemes. There are plenty of us who didn't go in or in my case got kicked out for admin reasons. We were starting a farm transfer when my dad went into GLAS at tier 1 on the basis that we had breeding Connemara ponies, plenty of confusion etc ensued during the transfer. Final point was that his membership of the Connemara Pony Breeders society and my new membership didn't overlap and that was cause enough to kick me out despite the money I had already invested in coppicing hedges, planting a grove of native Irish trees, planting native Irish apples etc. I appealed but got a very snotty rude response about having to retain a membership of a rare breed society at all times. I explained that I was a member within a month of the transfer and that there was a whole application and approval system to become a member which I thought would happen more quickly but in the end I had to pay back what was paid to my father and also foot the bill for all the trees, fencing labour etc myself :(.
    Yes I'm very bitter, it was a lovely way to start my relationship with the department and their schemes.
    Anyway, now I let the ponies in among the trees to graze the grass down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Fluppen wrote: »
    As a 'non GLAS farmer' I'd be very happy to enter new environmental schemes. There are plenty of us who didn't go in or in my case got kicked out for admin reasons. We were starting a farm transfer when my dad went into GLAS at tier 1 on the basis that we had breeding Connemara ponies, plenty of confusion etc ensued during the transfer. Final point was that his membership of the Connemara Pony Breeders society and my new membership didn't overlap and that was cause enough to kick me out despite the money I had already invested in coppicing hedges, planting a grove of native Irish trees, planting native Irish apples etc. I appealed but got a very snotty rude response about having to retain a membership of a rare breed society at all times. I explained that I was a member within a month of the transfer and that there was a whole application and approval system to become a member which I thought would happen more quickly but in the end I had to pay back what was paid to my father and also foot the bill for all the trees, fencing labour etc myself :(.
    Yes I'm very bitter, it was a lovely way to start my relationship with the department and their schemes.
    Anyway, now I let the ponies in among the trees to graze the grass down.

    Sorry to hear this, find dept. inspectors have a "computer says no" attitude with little leeway for genuine examples like above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭monseiur


    Fluppen wrote: »
    As a 'non GLAS farmer' I'd be very happy to enter new environmental schemes. There are plenty of us who didn't go in or in my case got kicked out for admin reasons. We were starting a farm transfer when my dad went into GLAS at tier 1 on the basis that we had breeding Connemara ponies, plenty of confusion etc ensued during the transfer. Final point was that his membership of the Connemara Pony Breeders society and my new membership didn't overlap and that was cause enough to kick me out despite the money I had already invested in coppicing hedges, planting a grove of native Irish trees, planting native Irish apples etc. I appealed but got a very snotty rude response about having to retain a membership of a rare breed society at all times. I explained that I was a member within a month of the transfer and that there was a whole application and approval system to become a member which I thought would happen more quickly but in the end I had to pay back what was paid to my father and also foot the bill for all the trees, fencing labour etc myself :(.
    Yes I'm very bitter, it was a lovely way to start my relationship with the department and their schemes.
    Anyway, now I let the ponies in among the trees to graze the grass down.
    You should appeal this and get a letter form the relevant pony society stating the date you originally applied for membership and explaining the process in becoming a member for the first time and how long it takes etc. - something you would not be aware of at the time.
    Also the fact that your father was previously a member and had horses on the farm all along should help.
    Your are basically continuing what was already established and the small gap in membership was due to administration delays in the pony society.
    Some of these societies are voluntary groups and only meet once or twice a year so it can take ages for new members to be registered.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Fluppen


    Thanks for the replies, the CPBS actually said at the time that there were several people with similar issues as they had also just changed their membership due date to one set date every year instead of taking the date of joining. They were planning to write a letter to the department to explain but after my appeal was rejected I just gave up and stopped keeping track of my actions and doing the paperwork so no way I can appeal again I think. Anyway I don't want to derail the nature thread too much with my moaning. Fingers crossed the new grant scheme will be good for farmers and nature and be a bit more understanding of administration issues :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Sorry to hear this, find dept. inspectors have a "computer says no" attitude with little leeway for genuine examples like above.

    Completely agree with this. No matter how high up you go the response will be " i'm only doing what I'm told"
    Or, if they say, you can ring my boss to see, and the boss then says he has to ring his boss. In my eyes, any of them aren't capable of correct decision making when put on the spot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    The paddock of grass for the early ewes was covered with spider threads the last few days, love seeing it.
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    And our guard dog spent the whole day minding us from a hedgehog, probably the only animal smaller than her on the farm. :D
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Orange Peel fungus... I think...


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Fluppen


    Whenever I'm in or near my workshop there's a watchful eye on me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Fluppen wrote: »
    Whenever I'm in or near my workshop there's a watchful eye on me

    Having read the caption - I wasn’t sure where that photo was going to go... :):):)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Fluppen wrote: »
    Whenever I'm in or near my workshop there's a watchful eye on me

    Willy wagtails. :)

    I remember this from when I was a nipper
    Little Trotty Wagtail
    by John Clare

    Little trotty wagtail he went in the rain,
    And tittering, tottering sideways he ne’er got straight again,

    He stooped to get a worm, and looked up to get a fly,

    And then he flew away ere his feathers they were dry.

    Little trotty wagtail, he waddled in the mud,
    And left his little footmarks, trample where he would.

    He waddled in the water-pudge, and waggle went his tail,

    And chirrupt up his wings to dry upon the garden rail.

    Little trotty wagtail, you nimble all about,
    And in the dimpling water-pudge you waddle in and out;

    Your home is nigh at hand, and in the warm pig-stye,

    So, little Master Wagtail, I'll bid you a good-bye.

    Sadly many thosands of wagtails disappeared from O'Connell St. In Dublin when they chopped down the Plane trees which grew there up to 1980s

    https://amp.independent.ie/life/country-matters-happy-hoppers-in-treetops-hotel-39084614.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭imokyrok


    I like the sole gin myself but I'm much happier to go pick sloes elsewhere rather than plant Blackthorn and have it spread out from the hedge!
    Won't be long till I'll gather a few lbs of them. Stick em in the freezer and they're ready to rock then.
    You don't have to stop at Sloe Gin. Sloe Whiskey and Sloe Vodka is good too.
    Also, possibly the nicest of all is Damson Gin. A unique flavour. There's nothing else like damson.

    Damson Gin! What a great idea. I must see if I can squeeze a damson tree into the garden.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭imokyrok


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Yeah perfect time now and the next few weeks. I'm gonna split a field in two and an thinking of doing a sort of fruit hedge. Medlar, damsons ( cultivated variety ), couple of hawthorn, mountain ash. Maybe a few apples/ pears. Not going fully up the field, leaving room at each headland for tractor. Not really sure where I'm going with this but it's in my head and can't get the idea out of my head now :)

    Edit i suppose not really a hedge as trees will be spaced a couple of feet apart. I think hawthorn is a lovely tree on it's own.

    The book by Martin Crawford 'Creating A Forest Garden' would give you some good ideas if you want a hedge you can forage from. Fantastic book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Many here (virtually) attending bio farm this year? I'm really looking forward to it myself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭minerleague


    endainoz wrote: »

    Read this, very good, only problem those who read it probably already doing whats recommended, while those who need to read wont


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    gozunda wrote: »
    Willy wagtails. :)

    I remember this from when I was a nipper



    Sadly many thosands of wagtails disappeared from O'Connell St. In Dublin when they chopped down the Plane trees which grew there up to 1980s

    https://amp.independent.ie/life/country-matters-happy-hoppers-in-treetops-hotel-39084614.html

    Was a one legged one around my place for a couple of months. Hopefully he's still hopping around the place. you'd wonder how he's survive as they seem to chase a lot of their prey on foot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    imokyrok wrote: »
    The book by Martin Crawford 'Creating A Forest Garden' would give you some good ideas if you want a hedge you can forage from. Fantastic book.

    I was only going to get a couple of Alder trees to plant beside all the Ash trees that are not looking too good due to that Ash Dieback disease. But has mushroomed now to

    Fruit Hedge - Trees so far

    Medlar Brabant Giant + a couple of small Nottingham varieties I've in the current orchard
    Damson Shepherds Bullace ( Yellow Damsons )
    Damson Merryweather + move orchard ones
    Cornelian cherry
    Ornamental Hawthorn Crimson Cloud
    Rowan, Mountain Ash
    Gooseberries ( moving from a bad location )
    Hazel
    Bird Cherry - Prunus padus
    Elderflower- Black Lace

    Field boundaries

    Common Alder
    Native Aspen
    Copper Beech
    2 Lilac Trees ( don't ask )
    A 100 2-3 year bareroot native hawthorn for patching up and replacing downed / rotted trees.
    Undecided on Willow, will be either that or Alder or Birch

    Orchard

    2 x Arthur Turner Cooking Apples ( used to have them but chopped then down during reorg 2 years ago - too big to move )
    2 x Greensleeves Apples ( Just for a different colour apple )

    Will keep me busy for a couple of weeks and might even take some of that belly I've developed since lockdown ha :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    NcdJd wrote: »
    I was only going to get a couple of Alder trees to plant beside all the Ash trees that are not looking too good due to that Ash Dieback disease. But has mushroomed now to

    Fruit Hedge - Trees so far

    Medlar Brabant Giant + a couple of small Nottingham varieties I've in the current orchard
    Damson Shepherds Bullace ( Yellow Damsons )
    Damson Merryweather + move orchard ones
    Cornelian cherry
    Ornamental Hawthorn Crimson Cloud
    Rowan, Mountain Ash
    Gooseberries ( moving from a bad location )
    Hazel

    Field boundaries

    Common Alder
    Native Aspen
    Copper Beech
    2 Lilac Trees ( don't ask )
    A 100 2-3 year bareroot native hawthorn for patching up and replacing downed / rotted trees.
    Undecided on Willow, will be either that or Alder or Birch

    Orchard

    2 x Arthur Turner Cooking Apples ( used to have them but chopped then down during reorg 2 years ago - too big to move )
    2 x Greensleeves Apples ( Just for a different colour apple )

    Will keep me busy for a couple of weeks and might even take some of that belly I've developed since lockdown ha :)

    Willow tends to grow savage quick and overpowers everthing else in a hedge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Willow tends to grow savage quick and overpowers everthing else in a hedge.

    It's for a damp part of a field but I am leaning more to Alder or Birch Capercaillie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    I was going to get some oak but the oak moth caterpillars put me off. Knowing my luck I'll be the first to get infestations of them so will leave them out.

    Plenty of flocks of Redwing and Mistle thrushes this year. They are everywhere which is good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭imokyrok


    NcdJd wrote: »
    I was only going to get a couple of Alder trees to plant beside all the Ash trees that are not looking too good due to that Ash Dieback disease. But has mushroomed now to

    Fruit Hedge - Trees so far

    Medlar Brabant Giant + a couple of small Nottingham varieties I've in the current orchard
    Damson Shepherds Bullace ( Yellow Damsons )
    Damson Merryweather + move orchard ones
    Cornelian cherry
    Ornamental Hawthorn Crimson Cloud
    Rowan, Mountain Ash
    Gooseberries ( moving from a bad location )
    Hazel

    Field boundaries

    Common Alder
    Native Aspen
    Copper Beech
    2 Lilac Trees ( don't ask )
    A 100 2-3 year bareroot native hawthorn for patching up and replacing downed / rotted trees.
    Undecided on Willow, will be either that or Alder or Birch

    Orchard

    2 x Arthur Turner Cooking Apples ( used to have them but chopped then down during reorg 2 years ago - too big to move )
    2 x Greensleeves Apples ( Just for a different colour apple )

    Will keep me busy for a couple of weeks and might even take some of that belly I've developed since lockdown ha :)

    Lovely list

    I've just added two Hazel trees to my garden. A Webbs Prize Cobb which is supposed to be very prolific and for cross pollination a Rode Zellernoot which is also prolific and very beautiful with red leaves. Also adding a couple more varieties of elderberry because I adore that tree for it's flowers and berries for drinks and desserts. The variety Black Lace is especially beautiful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭imokyrok


    imokyrok wrote: »
    Lovely list

    I've just added two Hazel trees to my garden. A Webbs Prize Cobb which is supposed to be very prolific and for cross pollination a Rode Zellernoot which is also prolific and very beautiful with red leaves. Also adding a couple more varieties of elderberry because I adore that tree for it's flowers and berries for drinks and desserts. The variety Black Lace is especially beautiful.

    Other fruits I've added recently are thornless gooseberry and blackberry. Also a carpeting variety of raspberry for the under storey. Betty Ashburner. I also bought a couple of self supporting upright raspberries but I'll be planting them in pots because I've found before they are hard to control.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭imokyrok


    NcdJd wrote: »
    It's for a damp part of a field but I am leaning more to Alder or Birch Capercaillie.

    If it's damp you could think of adding some fiddlehead ferns for the understorey. Another food source. I got the last 2 Matteuccia Struthiopteris in Tullys last week but no doubt they'll be back in spring.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭imokyrok


    Willow tends to grow savage quick and overpowers everthing else in a hedge.

    Agree. Keeping on top of willow is very difficult. I now keep my one cut to a stump because it grows out of control. It was towering over everything and blocking light.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭imokyrok


    The small leafed lime is also a good one to consider because its leaves are good salad leaves. Tilia Cordata. Can be topped at head height as a bush or let grow depending on the site.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    imokyrok wrote: »
    Lovely list

    I've just added two Hazel trees to my garden. A Webbs Prize Cobb which is supposed to be very prolific and for cross pollination a Rode Zellernoot which is also prolific and very beautiful with red leaves. Also adding a couple more varieties of elderberry because I adore that tree for it's flowers and berries for drinks and desserts. The variety Black Lace is especially beautiful.

    I've a few different cultivars of cobnuts already including the two you mentioned but the squirrels are more sharper than me when it comes to harvesting anything off them.

    I never knew there was a black version of elderflower. Looks fantastic! I've plenty of the native elderflower and can be a scourge around the place but will add two of the black lace to my list. There was a lady that used to come in and pick elderflowerheads and throw me a couple of bottles of elderflower cordial. Lovely stuff very refreshing. I saw something on a program a while back that you can also make Turkish delight out of the flowers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    NcdJd wrote: »
    I've a few different cultivars of cobnuts already including the two you mentioned but the squirrels are more sharper than me when it comes to harvesting anything off them.

    I never knew there was a black version of elderflower. Looks fantastic! I've plenty of the native elderflower and can be a scourge around the place but will add two of the black lace to my list. There was a lady that used to come in and pick elderflowerheads and throw me a couple of bottles of elderflower cordial. Lovely stuff very refreshing. I saw something on a program a while back that you can also make Turkish delight out of the flowers.

    A good one to include is Bird Cherry - Prunus padus.

    A smaller tree - the small black fruits are loved by birds and leaves attract many insects.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    gozunda wrote: »
    A good one to include is Bird Cherry - Prunus padus.

    A smaller tree - the small black fruits are loved by birds and leaves attract many insects.

    Will add one of them too gozunda thanks for that man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    imokyrok wrote: »
    Other fruits I've added recently are thornless gooseberry and blackberry. Also a carpeting variety of raspberry for the under storey. Betty Ashburner. I also bought a couple of self supporting upright raspberries but I'll be planting them in pots because I've found before they are hard to control.

    What is the variety of the gooseberry, and where did you get them?

    I got gooseberry plants a while back - but they were leathal with thorns. Ended up giving em away :)

    Be very interested in the thornless ones though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    A nice ripe gooseberry is well worth the short term pain Dinzee :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 441 ✭✭forgottenhills


    This hedging subject is great NcdJd and almost needs a thread of its own! I didn't know that parts of (certain varieties of fern) were edible for one thing. Like another poster said raspberries are great for easy growing and producing but I am not sure that I would recommend them for a hedge as they tend to spread like common briars.

    Another shrub/small tree that you might consider for your hedge is the Bay Leaf. It grows well in Ireland in sites where frost isn't too bad. It is a small evergreen tree/bush, with dense dark green foliage and with the pleasant bay leaf smell when the foliage is broken or cut back. And of course you can use the leaves in your recipes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    This hedging subject is great NcdJd and almost needs a thread of its own! I didn't know that parts of (certain varieties of fern) were edible for one thing. Like another poster said raspberries are great for easy growing and producing but I am not sure that I would recommend them for a hedge as they tend to spread like common briars.

    Another shrub/small tree that you might consider for your hedge is the Bay Leaf. It grows well in Ireland in sites where frost isn't too bad. It is a small evergreen tree/bush, with dense dark green foliage and with the pleasant bay leaf smell when the foliage is broken or cut back. And of course you can use the leaves in your recipes.

    Thanks Forgottenhills, at some stage I'd like to get some Logan berries. I had Autumn fruiting raspberries but found them hit and miss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Thanks Forgottenhills, at some stage I'd like to get some Logan berries. I had Autumn fruiting raspberries but found them hit and miss.

    Speaking of Autumn raspberries - we are still getting some raspberries off ours here... I was surprised, given we’re almost in mid November...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Speaking of Autumn raspberries - we are still getting some raspberries off ours here... I was surprised, given we’re almost in mid November...

    I have early summer fruiting varieties here with some berries still growing and ripening atm.

    That and the birds have been having a whale of a time on the crab apple trees.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Speaking of Autumn raspberries - we are still getting some raspberries off ours here... I was surprised, given we’re almost in mid November...

    Same here - its been so mild recently is like a second spring with the likes of Red Clover, Dandelions etc, putting up new flowers:confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Fluppen


    Lots of raspberries here too, quite a few twins.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭imokyrok


    NcdJd wrote: »
    I've a few different cultivars of cobnuts already including the two you mentioned but the squirrels are more sharper than me when it comes to harvesting anything off them.

    I never knew there was a black version of elderflower. Looks fantastic! I've plenty of the native elderflower and can be a scourge around the place but will add two of the black lace to my list. There was a lady that used to come in and pick elderflowerheads and throw me a couple of bottles of elderflower cordial. Lovely stuff very refreshing. I saw something on a program a while back that you can also make Turkish delight out of the flowers.

    They are a smaller plant and they don't seem to self seed as easily. Keeping the common elderflower under control is hard but so far I havent had a bird dropped black lace. Mores the pity. The elderflower cordial it produces is a lovely pink colour. Didnt know that about Turkish delight. The berries are lovely in a crumble with another dominant fruit. Pear and elderberry or apple and elderberry eg.

    I've havent seen squirrels where I am since its right beside the sea and there aren't many trees for them so hopefully I will get to harvest hazel nuts myself ðŸ˜


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭imokyrok


    gozunda wrote: »
    I have early summer fruiting varieties here with some berries still growing and ripening atm.

    That and the birds have been having a whale of a time on the crab apple trees.

    The crabapples are really hanging around this year! My daughter made a few jars of crabapple and chilli chutney recently. Delicious with cheese.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭imokyrok


    What is the variety of the gooseberry, and where did you get them?

    I got gooseberry plants a while back - but they were leathal with thorns. Ended up giving em away :)

    Be very interested in the thornless ones though...

    This is the one I've gotten.
    https://shop.tullynurseries.ie/Product/View.aspx?Code=GOO001


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭imokyrok


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Thanks Forgottenhills, at some stage I'd like to get some Logan berries. I had Autumn fruiting raspberries but found them hit and miss.

    I have a couple of Logan berries in my garden for many years but have yet to taste a ripe one. The birds strip them everytime! Worth having for feeding the birds I guess.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    imokyrok wrote: »
    They are a smaller plant and they don't seem to self seed as easily. Keeping the common elderflower under control is hard but so far I havent had a bird dropped black lace. Mores the pity. The elderflower cordial it produces is a lovely pink colour. Didnt know that about Turkish delight. The berries are lovely in a crumble with another dominant fruit. Pear and elderberry or apple and elderberry eg.

    I've havent seen squirrels where I am since its right beside the sea and there aren't many trees for them so hopefully I will get to harvest hazel nuts myself ðŸ˜

    You might be able to take a cutting of it. The ordinary elderflower rooted for me when I broke a branch off one and stuck it in the ground to mark a trench going into a ditch. Came back a couple of months later and was surprised to see it growing away!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Danzy wrote: »
    Great to hear.
    Please put some photos up of the field in bloom.

    Flying up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 441 ✭✭forgottenhills


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Flying up.

    Great looking planting. How do you keep the birds and other critters away from your crops?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Great looking planting. How do you keep the birds and other critters away from your crops?

    Not my crop forgottenhills ( thankfully as I hate the smell of garlic ha ), field out the back of me. He sowed it with a cabbage planter but will be investing in a proper sower and harvester this year as he's put in 40 to 50 acres of it this year. There's a couple of different varieties that's one that's up.

    Pigeons don't go near it and the rabbits don't seem to like it, few nibbles here and there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    A rather dead thing, but I always move dead things off the road because I hate to think of them being squished :(
    Thought it was a kitten, but it's obviously not.
    Consensus on Twitter is cream mink? I never knew they came in pale :D

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    Actually we're about 50/50 ferret/mink now. I'm going back for it to get a better pic :pac:


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