BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

Duke O Smiley · 04-01-2020 9:12pm

jharr100 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-megane-1-5-dsl-coupe-2250/23575953

Little bit of negotiation to get it down to bangermomics..

It’s nice to see these firmly in bangernomics parameters now, I think I will try one soon

Duke O Smiley · 04-01-2020 10:35pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mondeo-only-40-264-miles/23853632

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Nice looking Mondeo titanium, 1 previous owner, nice spec & looks clean, 60k km, tested til September, €995

Respectable looking car for the money

Rows Grower · 04-01-2020 10:40pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mondeo-only-40-264-miles/23853632

Nice looking Mondeo titanium, 1 previous owner, nice spec & looks clean, 60k km, tested til September, €995

Respectable looking car for the money

If I had phone reception here in the house that would be bought. But I don't, and I already have too many cars.

Andrewf20 · 04-01-2020 10:42pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mondeo-only-40-264-miles/23853632

Nice looking Mondeo titanium, 1 previous owner, nice spec & looks clean, 60k km, tested til September, €995

Respectable looking car for the money

Mondeo looks a steal. 2 litre petrols are rare enough in this country. Hard to believe it comes in a lethargic 1.6 for such a big car.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 04-01-2020 10:43pm

Andrewf20 wrote: »

Mondeo looks a steal. 2 litre petrols are rare enough in this country. Hard to believe it comes in a lethargic 1.6 for such a big car.

That 1.6 isn’t bad to go actually! It’s seen as a serious underpowered engine mated with that size of car but they go quite nicely. Compared to the 1.4 mk1 focus it’s a rocket.

Duke O Smiley · 04-01-2020 10:48pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/08-peugeot-4007-new-nct/23650767

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4x4 7 seater, tested til September, €1450

I like these, could be a handy yoke for someone

CoBo55 · 04-01-2020 10:53pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mondeo-only-40-264-miles/23853632

Nice looking Mondeo titanium, 1 previous owner, nice spec & looks clean, 60k km, tested til September, €995

Respectable looking car for the money

Jesus that's an absolute bargain.

ba_barabus · 05-01-2020 12:00am

Hunky Monster wrote: »

That 1.6 isn’t bad to go actually! It’s seen as a serious underpowered engine mated with that size of car but they go quite nicely. Compared to the 1.4 mk1 focus it’s a rocket.

We had a 1.6 Mondeo. You're right, it's faster than a 1.4 Focus but it's still very slow and drinks petrol. Ours is still knocking around with over 300k kms on it so it lasted well in fairness.

carzony · 05-01-2020 12:18am

ba_barabus wrote: »

We had a 1.6 Mondeo. You're right, it's faster than a 1.4 Focus but it's still very slow and drinks petrol. Ours is still knocking around with over 300k kms on it so it lasted well in fairness.

Currently driving a 2008 1.6 Mondeo and love it. The only issue is the engine is carrying around a lot of weight (as mentioned here). Mine has just over 200,000 but the engine has been 'ticking' really badly when cold for a while now. I think it's worn at this stage.

kalkat2002 · 05-01-2020 9:22am

Driving a c max 1.6
If you want sensations is not your engine
If you want a bulletproof engine for your missus and forget her ...it is your choice
Said this until 4000 rpm is lazy but from this to around 6300 rpm what I like is the continuous power without any loss
Thirsty drives compensated so far with no visits to the mechanic

TommyGun2017 · 05-01-2020 5:33pm

High spec, high mileage 2008 Laguna 2.0 diesel with Tax and NCT for under €900.

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/23870931

WestWicklow1 · 05-01-2020 6:43pm

A friend is thinking of buying a Lexus 220D.

Are there any issues with that engine/gearbox/car that you know of?

Working class heroes · 05-01-2020 7:06pm

WestWicklow1 wrote: »

A friend is thinking of buying a Lexus 220D.

Are there any issues with that engine/gearbox/car that you know of?

Terrible, absolutely terrible engine. Those engine were just lobbed into those just to keep up with the popularity of Deisel.

FirstIn · 05-01-2020 9:45pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

Terrible, absolutely terrible engine. Those engine were just lobbed into those just to keep up with the popularity of Deisel.

Bit like Honda. When I hear of people wanting a diesel Honda , I always dismay. The best and I believe the largest petrol engine manufacturer in the world and you want a diesel from them. Mad.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 05-01-2020 10:32pm

WestWicklow1 wrote: »

A friend is thinking of buying a Lexus 220D.

Are there any issues with that engine/gearbox/car that you know of?

He'd be better off piling the money up and setting fire to it.

grogi · 05-01-2020 10:34pm

FirstIn wrote: »

Bit like Honda. When I hear of people wanting a diesel Honda , I always dismay. The best and I believe the largest petrol engine manufacturer in the world and you want a diesel from them. Mad.

And what is wrong with 2.2 diesel from Honda?!

punisher5112 · 05-01-2020 10:45pm

Any 220d lexus I've seen on the road is smoking like a coal plant.....

They are up there with Mazda diesel to the point I'd have more faith and belief in a chocalate engine.....

Absolutely nuts to even think of one....

punisher5112 · 05-01-2020 10:46pm

grogi wrote: »

And what is wrong with 2.2 diesel from Honda?!

Crack manifold and few other bits....
They weren't as reliable as any other petrol engines especially the VTEC.....
VTEC were or are bullet proof.

kqcregg · 05-01-2020 11:40pm

Hi all. Getting the itch to change my current bangernomics 2005 Honda accord 2.0 petrol. Great car but a bit thirsty at just under 34 mpg based on nearly 39k miles in 28 months. Mixed driving.

In keeping with the idea of this thread my previous two bangernomics were replaced at end of life (00 1.2 punto after over 2 years + 01 1.6 avensis after 3 years) so this is a bit of a change for the sake of it.

Torn between staying petrol or going diesel. For petrol I'm thinking of a Mazda 6 1.8 2nd gen 2008 onwards. Any opinions? Any owners on here that can advise on actual mpg?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2009-mazda-6/23730826

For diesel something like a volvo v50 1.6 or one of the Renault 1.5 dci like a Fluence or megane or Hyundai i30 1.6

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-volvo-v50-1-6-diesel/23467243

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2010-renault-megane-estate1-5/23874275

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-i30-new-nct/23251103

The fear of the big diesel issues is the main concern!

colm_mcm · 05-01-2020 11:41pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Crack manifold and few other bits....
They weren't as reliable as any other petrol engines especially the VTEC.....
VTEC were or are bullet proof.

Yeah but if you want/need a diesel a petrol is shag all good to you.

punisher5112 · 05-01-2020 11:47pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Yeah but if you want/need a diesel a petrol is shag all good to you.

Oh fully agree, loved the torque in them....

I'll be honest I'm depressed driving the megane.... So miss power...

Duke O Smiley · 05-01-2020 11:50pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2001-opel-astra-for-sale-last-ever-lyons-tea-car/23872542

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1 owner, years test, small bit of tax and:

The car was originally the last ever prize in the Lyons tea minstrels back in 2001

€500

It actually looks like a very nice example

bazz26 · 06-01-2020 12:12am

WestWicklow1 wrote: »

A friend is thinking of buying a Lexus 220D.

Are there any issues with that engine/gearbox/car that you know of?

Head gasket failure,
EGR problems and carbon build up.

Best avoided unless you like visiting your mechanic regularly.

angrybeaver · 06-01-2020 12:27am

kqcregg wrote: »

Hi all. Getting the itch to change my current bangernomics 2005 Honda accord 2.0 petrol. Great car but a bit thirsty at just under 34 mpg based on nearly 39k miles in 28 months. Mixed driving.

In keeping with the idea of this thread my previous two bangernomics were replaced at end of life (00 1.2 punto after over 2 years + 01 1.6 avensis after 3 years) so this is a bit of a change for the sake of it.

Torn between staying petrol or going diesel. For petrol I'm thinking of a Mazda 6 1.8 2nd gen 2008 onwards. Any opinions? Any owners on here that can advise on actual mpg?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2009-mazda-6/23730826

For diesel something like a volvo v50 1.6 or one of the Renault 1.5 dci like a Fluence or megane or Hyundai i30 1.6

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-volvo-v50-1-6-diesel/23467243

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2010-renault-megane-estate1-5/23874275

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-i30-new-nct/23251103

The fear of the big diesel issues is the main concern!

Those Mazda 6 with the 1.8 petrol engine is as you’d expect thirsty but fairly reliable. Not overly exciting to drive.

I’m in a similar debate at the moment myself, I’d lean towards one of the 1.5dci engined Renaults purely on value. They seem to be able to put up high mileage if looked after.

rn · 06-01-2020 3:23am

There were lots of those volvo v50 1.6 diesels bought by work colleagues in the 06-10 period. I knew 5 owners. All lovely cars, well finished.

However all gave significant engine trouble before they were 6 years old. No owners left in the office now.

I believe the much rarer 2.0l is more reliable.

grogi · 06-01-2020 10:38am

angrybeaver wrote: »

Those Mazda 6 with the 1.8 petrol engine is as you’d expect thirsty but fairly reliable. Not overly exciting to drive.

I'd say it is completely opposite. They are not particularly thirsty, but far from beig reliable.

Those engines have very weak oil rings. Oil rings let some oil go through and burn, the level goes down very fast (1l/1000km is completely normal). But this is not the biggest problem - if you let the oil level go too low (which is relatively easy), you'll wear other rings and the compression goes shopping. This very soon fails the car at the NCT. On top of that the everlasting issues with corrosion.

Fantastic cars, very nicely built and superb to drive. But not reliable at all.

angrybeaver · 06-01-2020 10:46am

grogi wrote: »

I'd say it is completely opposite. They are not particularly thirsty, but far from beig reliable.

Those engines have very weak oil rings. Oil rings let some oil go through and burn, the level goes down very fast (1l/1000km is completely normal). But this is not the biggest problem - if you let the oil level go too low (which is relatively easy), you'll wear other rings and the compression goes shopping. This very soon fails the car at the NCT. On top of that the everlasting issues with corrosion.

Fantastic cars, very nicely built and superb to drive. But not reliable at all.

Not reliable at all?

I disagree, I ran one for 3 years without any major issue. My father had one for a similar time without issue. Surprised to hear them as not reliable at all. But just my experience of them.

On the consumption, I found it as thirsty as 2.0 petrols I had.

tabby aspreme · 06-01-2020 10:50am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Crack manifold and few other bits....
They weren't as reliable as any other petrol engines especially the VTEC.....
VTEC were or are bullet proof.

303k miles on a 2.2 Honda, and never a spanner on the engine yet

06-01-2020 12:26pm

Hi,

I am in the market for a car as well.
Currently have a VW Passat 1.9 TDI 2003, 205,000 on it.
I think that car has got to go.

However I spotted a link posted by angrybeaver which has got my interest - Sorry Angrybeaver for showing interest in an ad that you posted !
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2010-renault-megane-estate1-5/23874275
What do the educated folk on here think of this ?

punisher5112 · 06-01-2020 12:29pm

6541 wrote: »

Hi,

I am in the market for a car as well.
Currently have a VW Passat 1.9 TDI 2003, 205,000 on it.
I think that car has got to go.

However I spotted a link posted by angrybeaver which has got my interest - Sorry Angrybeaver for showing interest in an ad that you posted !
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2010-renault-megane-estate1-5/23874275
What do the educated folk on here think of this ?

Honestly it will be a serious let down from where you are as in comfort and power imo.

However they are a good motor, and in estate form definitely more roomy.

Have the hatch and its quite cramped for me.

Reliable as most other out there now too.

I just got it as needed diesel, cruise control and Bluetooth etc..

BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

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