Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

sliabh 1956 · 23-02-2020 10:30pm

What I meant was he missed a few short ones to go even better any at the turn he is only 1 behind all to play for

sliabh 1956 · 23-02-2020 11:13pm

only pared the par 5after his second overshot the green 5 now 2 behind after

Mantis Toboggan · 23-02-2020 11:23pm

Bad 3 putt there that's his tournament over. Deshambles has it wrapped up anyway.

sliabh 1956 · 23-02-2020 11:27pm

BdC really going well rory just dropped a shot hard to see him pulling it back from here

prawnsambo · 24-02-2020 1:12am

Another top 5. Needs that extra little bit to get a win now.

prawnsambo · 24-02-2020 2:15pm

Rory McIlroy has now officially passed Nick Faldo to take third spot in the number of weeks at World number one rankings on 98. Nearest challenger in the current crop is DJ with 91 weeks. Highly unlikely that he'll pass Greg Norman's 331 and no chance of even getting close to Tiger Woods' 683. :eek:.

Still a notable milestone. Only another couple of weeks to get into triple figures.

24-02-2020 2:18pm

Mods: Can the title of the thread be changed to 'Rory McIlroy - World Number 1' to reflect his achievement in this regard.

There are similar thread titles for individuals like Padraig, Shane, Leona etc. recognising a specific achievement.

Thanks in advance.

Mantis Toboggan · 24-02-2020 2:28pm

Another solid week for him. Not at his best but certain parts of his game are really good.

24-02-2020 2:31pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Mods: Can the title of the thread be changed to 'Rory McIlroy - World Number 1' to reflect his achievement in this regard.

There are similar thread titles for individuals like Padraig, Shane, Leona etc. recognising a specific achievement.

Thanks in advance.

Considering how tight the ranking points are, be prepared for a lot of “not anymore” posts.

Keano · 24-02-2020 2:38pm

Thread title updated, probably have to change it next week!

24-02-2020 2:41pm

This is going to be fun. This thread has been going for 6 years, for a considerable amount of that, he has not been the current No. 1. It’d be a bit of a laugh now if the Rugby Mods left up “Ireland current World No.1”

24-02-2020 2:54pm

Dav010 wrote: »

This is going to be fun. This thread has been going for 6 years, for a considerable amount of that, he has not been the current No. 1.

Maybe we should list the 4 majors he has won instead.

24-02-2020 2:55pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Maybe we should list the 4 majors he has won instead.

Haven’t they been listed many times here since the last one in 2014? But sure go on, add them on to the thread title.

Keano · 24-02-2020 2:55pm

Now folks it is only a bit of fun, let's not get carried away

GreeBo · 24-02-2020 3:52pm

Dav010 wrote: »

This is going to be fun. This thread has been going for 6 years, for a considerable amount of that, he has not been the current No. 1. It’d be a bit of a laugh now if the Rugby Mods left up “Ireland current World No.1”

Maybe we should add the date to the thread title, for clarity?

Bubbaclaus · 24-02-2020 6:29pm

Keano wrote: »

Thread title updated, probably have to change it next week!

Can't be overtaken this weekend anyway. Rahm not playing and Koepka too far behind that even a win wont do.

Dr. Bre · 24-02-2020 7:18pm

I’m guessing he plays the players next

prawnsambo · 24-02-2020 7:24pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

I’m guessing he plays the players next

I thought he was playing the Arnold Palmer Invitational?

Edit: Just checked and yes, he is.

FixdePitchmark · 24-02-2020 9:52pm

Dav010 wrote: »

Haven’t they been listed many times here since the last one in 2014? But sure go on, add them on to the thread title.

Do you just not like him or rate him ?

By the way enjoy it when ever ws have world number 1 in any sport

Rare enough , particularly in golf.

24-02-2020 10:13pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Do you just not like him or rate him ?

By the way enjoy it when ever ws have world number 1 in any sport

Rare enough , particularly in golf.

Over the duration of this thread, he hasn’t been No 1 for a whole lot of the time, that isn’t an indicator of whether I like him or not, he just hasn’t been.

I do both rate him and like him, but only to an extent and perhaps not as emotionally and unequivocally as others. I enjoyed the Irish Rugby team being ranked number one in the world, but like Mcilroy, I was never convinced they were actually the best in the world. For me, winning is a better barometer of greatness than ranking points for coming 5th. I know others go by top 10’s, strokes gained, scoring averages etc. But that’s just my opinion.

rooney30 · 24-02-2020 10:40pm

Dav010 wrote: »

Over the duration of this thread, he hasn’t been No 1 for a whole lot of the time, that isn’t an indicator of whether I like him or not, he just hasn’t been.

I do both rate him and like him, but only to an extent and perhaps not as emotionally and unequivocally as others. I enjoyed the Irish Rugby team being ranked number one in the world, but like Mcilroy, I was never convinced they were actually the best in the world. For me, winning is a better barometer of greatness than ranking points for coming 5th. I know others go by top 10’s, strokes gained, scoring averages etc. But that’s just my opinion.

If you are not convinced that Mcilroy is the best golfer in the world currently , then who do you consider to be the best ? Just curious

24-02-2020 10:49pm

rooney30 wrote: »

If you are not convinced that Mcilroy is the best golfer in the world currently , then who do you consider to be the best ? Just curious

The rankings are so close that Rahm could have topped the rankings after the weekend, I wouldn’t have considered him the best player in the world either. That’s my point, there are a few players at the top, all very good, but none that I would say are out on their own. Keopke missed 3 months with injury, had be played those tournaments, though he doesn’t win a lot of regular tour events, he gets a lot of points and he could be number 1.

Believe me, I know many will disagree with my view and I respect that. Ranking rewards consistency and money/points earned by playing well.

fullstop · 24-02-2020 11:25pm

Wonderful thread name update.

Made all the better by the salt from certain posters.

Drink it in lads

GreeBo · 24-02-2020 11:37pm

rooney30 wrote: »

If you are not convinced that Mcilroy is the best golfer in the world currently , then who do you consider to be the best ? Just curious

There are a bunch of them at the top. Koepka takes it for me down to his major dominance.

Mantis Toboggan · 24-02-2020 11:40pm

GreeBo wrote: »

There are a bunch of them at the top. Koepka takes it for me down to his major dominance.

Nah, had a great 2018 and early parts of 2019 but he's had a poor 6 months. Needs to up it big time if he wants to get back to number 1.

fullstop · 24-02-2020 11:45pm

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Nah, had a great 2018 and early parts of 2019 but he's had a poor 6 months. Needs to up it big time if he wants to get back to number 1.

Agreed. Very hit and miss. But that’s for the Koepka thread I’m sure.

24-02-2020 11:47pm

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Nah, had a great 2018 and early parts of 2019 but he's had a poor 6 months. Needs to up it big time if he wants to get back to number 1.

He didn’t play for 3 months and was having trouble since March with serious knee injury.

Maybe it’s a good thing if top spot changes a few times during the year, it’ll sharpen the players minds and game going into/during the Majors period. Given how dismissive Keopke was about McIlroy last year, he is bound to be a bit sore with giving up No 1.

Do you think McIlroy going into the Masters as No 1 will mean additional pressure, or give him confidence?

rooney30 · 25-02-2020 12:11am

Dav010 wrote: »

He didn’t play for 3 months and was having trouble since March with serious knee injury.

Maybe it’s a good thing if top spot changes a few times during the year, it’ll sharpen the players minds and game going into/during the Majors period. Given how dismissive Keopke was about McIlroy last year, he is bound to be a bit sore with giving up No 1.

Do you think McIlroy going into the Masters as No 1 will mean additional pressure, or give him confidence?

Until the monkey of the career grand slam is off his back , then the pressure going into the masters is going to be immense either way , don’t think being no 1 will add massively to it , the focus on him will always be huge.
Will he gain confidence from it ? You would hope he would . Will that translate into a win ? God only knows

OEP · 25-02-2020 10:12am

It will be interesting to see how Koepka gets on this year. No one, since Tiger, has managed to dominate in the majors for more than about 2 years. McIlroy had his stint, then Spieth, then Koepka. It also shows that unless you're a freak like Tiger, it's near impossible to dominate for long periods.

mike12 · 25-02-2020 10:39am

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Nah, had a great 2018 and early parts of 2019 but he's had a poor 6 months. Needs to up it big time if he wants to get back to number 1.

Hate Na ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
Had a good laugh the time he took 16 in the woods.

Remind me · 25-02-2020 10:51am

OEP wrote: »

It will be interesting to see how Koepka gets on this year. No one, since Tiger, has managed to dominate in the majors for more than about 2 years. McIlroy had his stint, then Spieth, then Koepka. It also shows that unless you're a freak like Tiger, it's near impossible to dominate for long periods.

Add Harrington to that list

slave1 · 25-02-2020 11:20am

Rory's playing super stuff but in reality it's largely a math result, Brooks has -57.17 points in calendar year 2020 alone versus Rory's -12.51 and there's your difference, along with Brooks has played 5 tournaments since the Tour Championship versus Rory's 9 and of course Brook's results reflect his injury recovery phase

bren2001 · 25-02-2020 11:47am

slave1 wrote: »

Rory's playing super stuff but in reality it's largely a math result, Brooks has -57.17 points in calendar year 2020 alone versus Rory's -12.51 and there's your difference, along with Brooks has played 5 tournaments since the Tour Championship versus Rory's 9 and of course Brook's results reflect his injury recovery phase

You're very wide of the mark there slave1 on how the rankings work.

1. The number of tournaments played is somewhat irrelevant if you've played more than 40 in the last 24 months (from the top of my head, not 100% sure on the time frame). The are not cumulative they are averaged. Rory has played 5 more tournaments than Brookes but his points total is divided by 48 as opposed to 43. On average, over the last 2 years, Rory has, on average, out performed Koepka. I think we would all agree this is the case. Brookes is poor in regular events.

2. Points lost in 2020 is again, kind of an irrelevant number. They are the tournaments that have dropped off Koepkas points total. However, the divisor drops by 1 each time a tournament is dropped from his calculation. If a win drops off, your average score will go down. If a missed cut or poor performance drops off, your points go up.

What the ranking show, is that Rory has been the most consistent player on average over the last 2 years.

prawnsambo · 25-02-2020 12:15pm

bren2001 wrote: »

You're very wide of the mark there slave1 on how the rankings work.

1. The number of tournaments played is somewhat irrelevant if you've played more than 40 in the last 24 months (from the top of my head, not 100% sure on the time frame). The are not cumulative they are averaged. Rory has played 5 more tournaments than Brookes but his points total is divided by 48 as opposed to 43. On average, over the last 2 years, Rory has, on average, out performed Koepka. I think we would all agree this is the case. Brookes is poor in regular events.

2. Points lost in 2020 is again, kind of an irrelevant number. They are the tournaments that have dropped off Koepkas points total. However, the divisor drops by 1 each time a tournament is dropped from his calculation. If a win drops off, your average score will go down. If a missed cut or poor performance drops off, your points go up.

What the ranking show, is that Rory has been the most consistent player on average over the last 2 years.

You have the time frame correct. there's also a maximum number (52) of tournaments that can be divided into the points total. Then there's also a reduction in the points tally for each tournament on a sliding scale before they drop off the calculation entirely. Basically it's weighted towards the more recent tournaments.

Edit: Just looked it up there. Points for the most recent 13 weeks remain the same. After that, they are reduced equally over the next 91 weeks. So as an example, a 100 point win will hold at 100 for 13 weeks and then reduce by 100/91 each week for the remaining 91 weeks.

abff · 26-02-2020 11:02pm

prawnsambo wrote: »

You have the time frame correct. there's also a maximum number (52) of tournaments that can be divided into the points total. Then there's also a reduction in the points tally for each tournament on a sliding scale before they drop off the calculation entirely. Basically it's weighted towards the more recent tournaments.

Edit: Just looked it up there. Points for the most recent 13 weeks remain the same. After that, they are reduced equally over the next 91 weeks. So as an example, a 100 point win will hold at 100 for 13 weeks and then reduce by 100/91 each week for the remaining 91 weeks.

That sums it up pretty well. But the reduction factor is 1/92 each week, not 1/91. So you get 91/92 in week 14 and 1/92 in week 104. Of course, if you’ve played more than 52 tournaments in the past two years, it’s only the most recent 52 that count, so the overall average reduction factor is likely to be slightly less. And if you’ve played fewer than 40 tournaments, your overall adjusted points total is divided by 40, rather than the number of tournaments played.

28-02-2020 5:22pm

Officially confirmed for the Irish Open

FixdePitchmark · 28-02-2020 5:32pm

Exactly wrote: »

Officially confirmed for the Irish Open

So was just an issue with Mcginley so.

Mushy · 28-02-2020 5:33pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

So was just an issue with Mcginley so.

Or if he played irish open itd be 7 weeks in a row

BigChap1759 · 28-02-2020 5:39pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

So was just an issue with Mcginley so.

Defo was

28-02-2020 7:57pm

Great to see him back at the Irish Open. There could be a lot of factors why he has decided to play, not least of which is his own personal reasons for doing so. There is also the possibility that the negative press he received last year made him consider it this year, and the fact that Mount Juliet can cater for players to stay on site. No mater the reasons, it’s a huge boost for the tournament and especially the fans.

slave1 · 28-02-2020 10:15pm

He has a good chance on a parkland course, he’s an also ran on the links these days

Bubbaclaus · 28-02-2020 10:18pm

slave1 wrote: »

He has a good chance on a parkland course, he’s an also ran on the links these days

Top 5 in 4 of his last 5 Open Championships is an also ran?

rooney30 · 28-02-2020 10:56pm

slave1 wrote: »

He has a good chance on a parkland course, he’s an also ran on the links these days

As mentioned top 5 in 4 of the last 5 opens . Followed him a fair bit around Birkdale in 2017. Had a slump I form around that time and wasn’t
playing his best stuff, still managed T4 though . He can play links

Joe_ Public · 29-02-2020 10:32am

You'll always hear it said that his preferred high ball flight mitigates against him when it comes to links golf. Dont know what's in that. I heard no less an authority than Padraig Harrington take a contrary view anyway.

slave1 · 29-02-2020 11:25am

slave1 wrote: »

He has a good chance on a parkland course, he’s an also ran on the links these days

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Top 5 in 4 of his last 5 Open Championships is an also ran?

Meant in the context of the Irish Open where his links record in recent years is poop IIRC

29-02-2020 6:35pm

slave1 wrote: »

Meant in the context of the Irish Open where his links record in recent years is poop IIRC

He was also tournament host most of those years which brings its own difficulties.

SeeMoreBut · 04-03-2020 10:27pm

Rory McIlroy calls for 'streamlining' of golf tournament schedule

https://www.skysports.com/golf/news/12176/11949582/rory-mcilroy-calls-for-streamlining-of-golf-tournament-schedule

All well in good when you are not a journey man

Banner2theend · 05-03-2020 8:24am

SeeMoreBut wrote: »

Rory McIlroy calls for 'streamlining' of golf tournament schedule

https://www.skysports.com/golf/news/12176/11949582/rory-mcilroy-calls-for-streamlining-of-golf-tournament-schedule

All well in good when you are not a journey man

Extremely elitest and foolish comments from Rory. Disappointed that he would come out with such drivel.:mad:

prawnsambo · 05-03-2020 8:47am

Banner2theend wrote: »

Extremely elitest and foolish comments from Rory. Disappointed that he would come out with such drivel.:mad:

It's a response to the proposed Premier League of Golf which is even more elitist. Taking the top players away from the tours would reduce the available purses on those tours and create a two-tier system.

GreeBo · 05-03-2020 9:41am

prawnsambo wrote: »

It's a response to the proposed Premier League of Golf which is even more elitist. Taking the top players away from the tours would reduce the available purses on those tours and create a two-tier system.

There are already multiple tiers?!

Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

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