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Duke of York BBC Interview

  • 16-11-2019 2:06pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭


    Prince Andrew looking to salvage his reputation

    How will it play out

    The queen has approved the whole thing


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  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Only quote of significance i've seen so far before tonights programme is "I've no recollection of ever meeting this lady" (in reference to Virginia Roberts.

    So in answer to your question, I think this is a nice big PR stunt supported by the BBC.

    Considering they're marketing this as a "no holds barred" interview, I hope they would ask the following questions:

    1. Did you ever have sex with anyone, in or on, one of Jeffery Epstein's houses or properties?

    2. Did you ever participate in an orgy or session with multiple females in any of Epstein's properties?

    3. What did you do when you stayed in Epstein's properties?

    4. Can you prove that you were nowhere near the properties outlined by Virginia Roberts on the dates she has stated that you were there?

    5. Did you ever receive a massage of any kind in or on one of Epstein's properties planes or helicopters?




    The fact that he is taking the line "I have no recollection" is not saying he never met her- of course, there's that photo which essentially means that he can't deny totally ever meeting her, regardless of what his "friends" say about it being faked.

    To me, if he is indeed "randy Andy", then he's unlikely to remember all of his "conquests" through the years.

    I'm keeping an open mind though, as to whether a sexual encounter actually took place- there's no doubt that part of Epstein's methods was to ensnare powerful people, in whatever way he could. On the other hand, I don't see a reason for Virginia Roberts to lie. Her accusation that he participated in an orgy with young teens on Epstein's Island, you would think, should have brought forward additional women at this point- but it hasn't.

    I'll wait for the interview but I imagine the "body language" "experts" will be all over this- you can see him blinking rapidly just after when saying he doesn't recollect meeting her, so regardless of what he says, there will be many doubters.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7692371/Andrew-says-felt-staying-billionaire-paedophile-Jeffrey-Epstein-right-thing-do.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Immortal Starlight


    I think hes a liar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,215 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    He gets around this grand ol' Duke of York

    Apparently he had 10,000 men as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy




  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This could be very bad for the UK royals:

    So will this interview be all about admitting everything and anything other than, what's been alleged in terms of his relationship with Virginia Roberts?

    If so, then the interview is a total white-wash- the olde "I'm this kind of bad person but not "that" kind of bad person" defence?

    We'll wait and see but it doesn't bode well- Christmas day in the Windsor household will be interesting- Eastenders will be less dramatic i'd say :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    Did they not show him the photo to jog his memory?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    He was too Nobel, backed by fergie. He was just too decent for his own good 😂 I can't wait to see what comes out next


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Did they not show him the photo to jog his memory?

    He's probably trying to claim he met her briefly for five minutes, posed for a photo with her but has no recollection of this meeting as it was so long ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    I laughed at the clip where he said he mistakenly stayed with Epstein after the conviction cos he "had a tendency to be too honourable" .

    you couldn't make that sh1t up


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭Fritzbox


    Strazdas wrote: »
    He's probably trying to claim he met her briefly for five minutes, posed for a photo with her but has no recollection of this meeting as it was so long ago.

    And why not if it's true?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Fritzbox wrote: »
    And why not if it's true?

    He seems very shifty and fidgety when answering that question - his body language didn't match what he was saying.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Whoever gave him the go ahead for that interview i sincerely thank them.

    What a lying piece of privileged scum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    When Maitlis asked Andrew why he would stay at Epstein’s house after charges that he had sex with underage girls, the Duke said, “It was a convenient place to stay.”

    “There is … I mean I’ve gone through this in my mind so many times,” Andrew said. “At the end of the day, with a benefit of all the hindsight that one could have, it was definitely the wrong thing to do. But at the time I felt it was the honorable and right thing to do and I admit fully that my judgement was probably colored by my tendency to be too honorable, but that’s just the way it is.”
    Errrr what?


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's on now on BBC

    "A straightforward shooting weekend" - hmm, how the other half live! :D


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He's admitted attending all of Epstein's properties.

    He's trying to align himself more with Maxwell than Epstein - which in itself is bad enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Twister2


    NSPCC lol


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    He stayed friends with a child sex trafficker,


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He's debating/disputing the difference of a "party" and a "dinner" with Epstein - you couldn't make this up:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Twister2


    Was in pizza express that day...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Why did he think giving this interview would be a good idea


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    He was at home with the kids that day. He took them to a pizza express in woking

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1195816154541035525


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Over the years I have read so many stories of sex abuse, paedophilia, child trafficking, etc among what are known as the elite, a terrible term if ever there was one.
    People often think these stories are far fetched conspiracy theories.
    The underlying response in me has been to doubt, to choose to remain at least partially detached, to be skeptical and wary of these stories even though the theme recurs. I have wondered why this is, given how common a tale they are. A person I read occasionally, Jasun Horsley, brother of the famous hedonist, writes about such matters. Sex abuse in high places. There is a researcher who writes about kakistocracy, the tendency among those in power to be the worst, to be inclined towards sexual depravity. Cannot recall his name. There is so much evidence for it, the Marc Dutroux case for example, credible stories about boys homes like Kincora in the North, a million horrid tales, and yet I think we, or perhaps it is just me, skirt around it or shy away from it because it really cracks open the world in a terrible way and potentially smashes residual hope in the honour and beauty of things at the root. It taints existence, this sordidness. These seedy bastards.
    I believe this man is an abuser.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    He dropped a terrible clanger when saying he didn't regret his relationship with Epstein - wrong answer (the man was a convicted paedophile and multiple abuser)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    His answer to whether or not she was lying was very revealing. He didn't say she was.

    This looks very bad for him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Woodenfloor


    paw patrol wrote: »
    I laughed at the clip where he said he mistakenly stayed with Epstein after the conviction cos he "had a tendency to be too honourable" .

    you couldn't make that sh1t up

    They would have gotten away with it too
    If it wasn't for that pesky Donald Trump


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    Even if the allegations were false... he is doing nothing to convince anyone otherwise with this interview. His answers just lead to more questions.

    The man has no cop on whatsoever. I think that holds true for most people in high society - completely out of touch with reality and no common sense. That's why they think nothing of engaging in acts like these allegations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    His answer to whether or not she was lying was very revealing. He didn't say she was.

    This looks very bad for him.
    Theres been a lack of denial from him since the start, its all Do Not Recall not categorical denial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    His answer to whether or not she was lying was very revealing. He didn't say she was.

    This looks very bad for him.

    Car crash of an interview. He hasn't got the skills or intelligence to lie his way out of it......if he was in court, no jury would believe him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Woodenfloor


    Twister2 wrote: »
    Was in pizza express that day...

    Q predicted this


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭nkl12xtw5goz70


    It's fascinating viewing, but I wonder who thought this interview was a good idea.

    The royals should be looking for a new public relations firm first thing Monday morning.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    No wonder Meghan Markle wont be having xmas dinner with the rest of the Royals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    It's fascinating viewing, but I wonder who thought this interview was a good idea.

    The royals should be looking for a new public relations firm first thing Monday morning.

    If he was a skillful liar, he might be able to pull such an interview off but he's probably not very bright

    I thought he saying that he didn't regret the friendship with Epstein was terrible (like he didn't give a toss about the girls).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    None of the Royal men are mental giants.

    So none of this surprises me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    statesaver wrote: »
    No wonder Meghan Markle wont be having xmas dinner with the rest of the Royals
    Is that true?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Thargor wrote: »
    Is that true?

    Yes. They are taking a break for a little stress relief.

    2 years left in that marriage tops.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Thargor wrote: »
    Is that true?

    Apparently so, yes....reported on Thursday


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Icsics


    paw patrol wrote: »
    I laughed at the clip where he said he mistakenly stayed with Epstein after the conviction cos he "had a tendency to be too honourable" .

    you couldn't make that sh1t up

    Basic interview trick of turning a negative into a positive. He was well coached. I found the interviewers 2 button jacket very distracting!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    statesaver wrote: »

    I wouldn’t trust him around my child so can’t say I blame Meghan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,932 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Jesus H Christ!

    Did he really just equate this shítstorm with being a mental health issue for him?

    Between that and running a programme for 7-14 yr olds...

    He's not coming off too well is h
    :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    statesaver wrote: »
    No wonder Meghan Markle wont be having xmas dinner with the rest of the Royals

    She’s not having Christmas with them because her and Harry are more or less Edward and Mrs Simpson due to their toe curling hypocrisy over climate change and her not understanding or accepting her position in the family.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    He could be as prolific as Jimmy Saville. Vermin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,695 ✭✭✭Lisha


    It's on now on BBC

    "A straightforward shooting weekend" - hmm, how the other half live! :D

    Feic sake I’ve missed it and don’t think bbc2 have a plus one.... don’t see repeat advertised on epg yet... if anyone know when it’s repeated can you let me know please?

    I think he’s a complete perverted liar by the way. As someone else says in thread no wonder Megan Markle isn’t having Christmas with the royals.. Megan might be the most genuine of them all after all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Disaster of an interview. Wonder how the UK media will react to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Well done Emily : had he been testifying in court, he would have been toast


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    "acted in a manner unbecoming."

    ".... He was a sex offender"

    Christ that was a doozy.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My god, his last few minutes of the interview are very painful to watch.

    Nothing to do with Virginia allegations- he just doesn't have any empathy for the suffering that Epstein's victims have gone through - that's what will be the biggest criticism of this interview.

    He's a spoilt, cosseted, wealthy snob who has a simple little mind that revolves around his own precious world.

    He's certainly guilty of ignorance.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Well done Emily : had he been testifying in court, he would have been toast
    Agree.

    Although could you image Jeremy Paxman doing the interview.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    "acted in a manner unbecoming."

    ".... He was a sex offender"

    Christ that was a doozy.

    "On balance" etc....

    What he should have said was "I regret ever meeting that vile creep and spending even five seconds in his company".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    statesaver wrote: »
    Agree.

    Although could you image Jeremy Paxman doing the interview.

    Emily did a great job nonetheless, allowed him to incriminate himself with nearly every answer


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