FC Barcelona Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Andersonisgod · 29-07-2015 2:31am

Wow cracking goal, it's Sandro Ramirez, the always impressive young player from the Masia.

MisterAnarchy · 29-07-2015 2:37am

Second half has fizzled out

miralize · 29-07-2015 2:58am

That Masip feller...

Andersonisgod · 29-07-2015 10:07am

Admittedly it wasn't his best night. On the bright side though Ter Stegen was fantastic, and to get a draw against a full strength Chelsea squad while missing Messi, Neymar, Mascherano, Alves, Bravo and only playing the likes of Iniesta, Pique, Rafinha, Pedro for a third of the game is pretty damn impressive in my books.

Iused2likebusts · 29-07-2015 10:17am

In Barcelona the weekend of the real sociedad game in November. Anyone any idea when I can get tickets on the Barcelona website.

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 29-07-2015 10:31am

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Admittedly it wasn't his best night. On the bright side though Ter Stegen was fantastic, and to get a draw against a full strength Chelsea squad while missing Messi, Neymar, Mascherano, Alves, Bravo and only playing the likes of Iniesta, Pique, Rafinha, Pedro for a third of the game is pretty damn impressive in my books.

Full strength Chelsea? Your joking right?

Andersonisgod · 29-07-2015 10:44am

MrMac84 wrote: »

Full strength Chelsea? Your joking right?

Starting team was the first 11 sans Terry (with Zouma in for him) and Kenendy in for Willian. Second half starting team had Ramires in for Oscar, moving Fabregas further forward and Willian on for Kenedy so probably even closer to a starting team for Mourinho in a big game. My point was though that Chelsea have a full strength squad on this tour.

retalivity · 29-07-2015 7:32pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

In Barcelona the weekend of the real sociedad game in November. Anyone any idea when I can get tickets on the Barcelona website.

To go with this, I'm in Barcelona for the first home game of the season vs Malaga, tickets are available on the site but are strewn all over the stadium, herself want to come as well even though she has no interest in football, whats the chances of getting tickets on the day outside? Or should I bite the bullet and order them now? Cheapest seats in the nosebleeds are €53...

Andersonisgod · 03-08-2015 8:31pm

So we're selling one of our best and brightest prospects to come through La Masia in quite some time (Adama Traore) to Liverpool for a meager fee and in return we are buying unknown quantity, Gerson, for €16 million. Welcome to Bartomeu's Barcelona, this is what you voted for.

MisterAnarchy · 03-08-2015 9:32pm

Andersonisgod wrote: »

So we're selling one of our best and brightest prospects to come through La Masia in quite some time (Adama Traore) to Liverpool for a meager fee and in return we are buying unknown quantity, Gerson, for €16 million. Welcome to Bartomeu's Barcelona, this is what you voted for.

Well the good news is that there is a good chance that Mr Bartomeu will be heading to jail along with his sidekick Rosell

According to Marca, a reform of the country’s penal code, which came into force in June , exempts companies from criminal liability when the alleged crimes are committed by their administrators, directors, managers and/or employees.

Consequently, this would see Barca spared from any punishment, with former President Sandro Rosell and incumbent Josep Maria Bartomeu shouldering the burden instead.

The three parties were charged with alleged tax fraud, amounting to an estimated €9.1m, several months ago, but the case will now be heard in a Barcelona court, as opposed to a National Court.

MightyMandarin · 03-08-2015 9:44pm

As a Liverpool fan I have to ask, is Traore really worth €15m? or did we just get burned paying the guts of £10m for a player with 1 senior appearance?

Andersonisgod · 03-08-2015 11:27pm

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Well the good news is that there is a good chance that Mr Bartomeu will be heading to jail along with his sidekick Rosell

According to Marca, a reform of the country’s penal code, which came into force in June , exempts companies from criminal liability when the alleged crimes are committed by their administrators, directors, managers and/or employees.

Consequently, this would see Barca spared from any punishment, with former President Sandro Rosell and incumbent Josep Maria Bartomeu shouldering the burden instead.

The three parties were charged with alleged tax fraud, amounting to an estimated €9.1m, several months ago, but the case will now be heard in a Barcelona court, as opposed to a National Court.

I'd get excited but I absolutely wont believe it until I see it. It's quite sad that any Barcelona fan should have to say that they would be excited to see their elected president thrown in jail but that's how things have gone.

MarkY91 · 03-08-2015 11:35pm

Is this traore chap any use? Liverpool fan here..only heard of him from soccer manager.com game lol

Andersonisgod · 03-08-2015 11:38pm

MightyMandarin wrote: »

As a Liverpool fan I have to ask, is Traore really worth €15m? or did we just get burned paying the guts of £10m for a player with 1 senior appearance?

Is Traore really worth €15 million? No, he's worth a lot more. At a time where Sterling costs £50 million, Adama Traore is worth far more than €15 million. There's very little to justify that, afterall Traore only has barely played for the first team, he's relatively unknown outside of Barcelona. Those who have seen him play though know it to be true, the kid is quite the force, a spectacular prospect who can become a spectacular player. For a lot of people he is the best attacker at the Masia, for some he is one of the best young attackers in world football.
Barcelona will include a buy back option in the deal, that's obviously important, but even so it's crazy that the club are letting him leave.

MarkY91 · 03-08-2015 11:40pm

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Is Traore really worth €15 million? No, he's worth a lot more. At a time where Sterling costs £50 million, Adama Traore is worth far more than €15 million. There's very little to justify that, afterall Traore only has barely played for the first team, he's relatively unknown outside of Barcelona. Those who have seen him play though know it to be true, the kid is quite the force, a spectacular prospect who can become a spectacular player. For a lot of people he is the best attacker at the Masia, for some he is one of the best young attackers in world football.
Barcelona will include a buy back option in the deal, that's obviously important, but even so it's crazy that the club are letting him leave.

Is this the truth or just one of your way over the top barca are kissing rants? (Which I love and agree with often btw lol)

castletownman · 03-08-2015 11:48pm

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Is Traore really worth €15 million? No, he's worth a lot more. At a time where Sterling costs £50 million, Adama Traore is worth far more than €15 million. There's very little to justify that, afterall Traore only has barely played for the first team, he's relatively unknown outside of Barcelona. Those who have seen him play though know it to be true, the kid is quite the force, a spectacular prospect who can become a spectacular player. For a lot of people he is the best attacker at the Masia, for some he is one of the best young attackers in world football.
Barcelona will include a buy back option in the deal, that's obviously important, but even so it's crazy that the club are letting him leave.

I take that as a yes. I heard La Masia mentioned so it must be true

Andersonisgod · 03-08-2015 11:51pm

MarkY91 wrote: »

Is this the truth or just one of your way over the top barca are kissing rants? (Which I love and agree with often btw lol)

I couldn't say enough good things about him. Along with Samper, he was my top pick to break into the starting 11 within the next few years. That's not something that happens easily. He's a far better bet than many that have gone before him like Delofeu, Munir, Sandro (who I actually really like) ect. His physicality means he has a good shot of being a hit in England, he's a real winger with explosive pace and fantastic skill, he's also confident in front of goal. I've said it on this forum before, he's a "cant-miss" prospect.

dfx- · 04-08-2015 12:59am

I'd rate him highly, ahead of Munir, but I liked Tello and Jeffren too...

Andersonisgod · 04-08-2015 1:05am

dfx- wrote: »

I'd rate him highly, ahead of Munir, but I liked Tello and Jeffren too...

Ah now tbf he's way ahead of Tello and Jeffren. He's probably got even more pace than Tello but also, crucially, seems to be in possession of a brain.

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 04-08-2015 9:02am

MarkY91 wrote: »

Is this traore chap any use? Liverpool fan here..only heard of him from soccer manager.com game lol

Nice plug for our game worlds bud

Agent Coulson · 04-08-2015 7:11pm

Traore off to Stoke is now the latest.

Andersonisgod · 04-08-2015 8:06pm

From bad to worse, how are we losing our best young attacking player to Stoke or Villa?

In good news, congratulations to Mascherano, the 4th captain in the squad, he beat Pedro and Pique in a vote, he joins Iniesta, Messi and Busquets as the captains of the team.

Andersonisgod · 05-08-2015 10:10pm

Messi and Neymar are back and they've scored a goal each, both brilliant, in the Gamper trophy vs Roma.

Ulysses Gaze · 05-08-2015 10:12pm

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Messi and Neymar are back and they've scored a goal each, both brilliant, in the Gamper trophy vs Roma.

And Sky still have La Liga rights for the next 3 years.

Won't miss any La Liga now.

Andersonisgod · 05-08-2015 10:14pm

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

And Sky still have La Liga rights for the next 3 years.

Won't miss any La Liga now.

A great day all round. You wouldn't want to miss a minute of it with the kind of stuff the Barcelona front 3 are playing.

brevity · 05-08-2015 10:14pm

The lesser spotted Angry Messi

https://twitter.com/Zizouology/status/629037412258332672

Ulysses Gaze · 05-08-2015 10:16pm

brevity wrote: »

The lesser spotted Angry Messi

https://twitter.com/Zizouology/status/629037412258332672

What happened there?

brevity · 05-08-2015 10:18pm

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

What happened there?

Not entirely sure. Only following on Twitter.

Turtwig · 05-08-2015 10:30pm

Wonder if that's anything to do with his Argentina pressure gauge?

Andersonisgod · 05-08-2015 10:46pm

I say this with absolutely no doubt; there is nothing better in football than watching Messi, Neymar and Suarez link up.

Turtwig · 05-08-2015 10:48pm

What about Messi, Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets when their team was at their peak?

Christ some of those plays could have been painted on a tapestry. They were that good.

Andersonisgod · 05-08-2015 10:51pm

Turtwig wrote: »

What about Messi, Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets when their team was at their peak?

Christ some of those plays could have been painted on a tapestry. They were that good.

That's a very good point. Certainly both sets are different but they are both absolute breathtaking.

The Camp Nou rises to salute Pedro. The Camp Nou rises to salute a thunderbolt of a strike from Rakitic to make it 3-0. Fantastic performance.

Andersonisgod · 05-08-2015 11:17pm

An exhibition of football from the Blaugrana in their home tournament. There is no doubting who the standard bearers at the very top of the game are, all others must aspire to match them. Barcelona are back, football is back.

Turtwig · 05-08-2015 11:19pm

C'mon Sevilla.

Last team to deny Barca a super cup too

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 05-08-2015 11:19pm

Any sources in barca saying anything about Pedro too United lads?

Andersonisgod · 05-08-2015 11:21pm

MrMac84 wrote: »

Any sources in barca saying anything about Pedro too United lads?

Apparently Barcelona wanted to keep him at the club for the game tonight. After that it's more than likely he is on his way to Man Utd assuming they pay the buyout clause. He got a fantastic reception from the crowd tonight, a "Pedro" chant rang around the stadium several times.

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 05-08-2015 11:22pm

What's his best position? Left or right of a front 3? As a #9 cf or as a #10 in the hole?

Turtwig · 05-08-2015 11:28pm

Pedro is a winger. Good with both feet. A very disciplined and intelligent one. He'll follow instructions to the letter. LVG needs to utilise him, not the other way around.

Pep's most potent role for him playing off the shoulder of the defender and keeping his width making runs to selflessly create space for others. His one touch passing ain't bad either. Key point is Pedro needs a dynamic system. If man Utd don't play it he'll look an incredible flop.

Andersonisgod · 05-08-2015 11:28pm

MrMac84 wrote: »

What's his best position? Left or right of a front 3? As a #9 cf or as a #10 in the hole?

I would say left of a front three where he can cut in on his right, though he has often played from the right too (most prominently during the days of the Villa-Messi-Pedro forward line). He's been utilized the odd time as a number 9 (and a false 9) both for club and country but the results were mixed at best. I can't say I remember him playing as a proper number 10, though a couple times last season in games he did play in the midfield 3, he even had a go as a right back and didn't look too shabby at all though I suspect not many clubs will use the right back position quite like Barcelona do.
Great attitude, tonnes of endeavor, boundless energy, he can also get goals (that is backed up by his record at international level and he's chipped in with quite a few for Barcelona too) and he can take on a player. Personally I think he's a better fit for Van Gaal's Man Utd than Di Maria was and, imo, he should make a good impact in the Premier League.

dfx- · 06-08-2015 3:56am

Turtwig wrote: »

What about Messi, Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets when their team was at their peak?

Christ some of those plays could have been painted on a tapestry. They were that good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY3HEajlmi4&t=13m47s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g3yDlbD0EI

gimmick · 14-08-2015 10:56am

Traore signs for Villa? Aston bloody Villa on a 5 year deal.

Andersonisgod · 14-08-2015 11:53am

gimmick wrote: »

Traore signs for Villa? Aston bloody Villa on a 5 year deal.

That's what we do now apparently, we sell our best academy prospects. Anyway this deal isn't as awful as first feared (though it's still pretty bad). €10 million, €2 million in add ons, a 5 year contract that includes a buy back clause that is valid for 3 years and also includes first option on the player too.
I'd have much preferred him spending a year on loan with a team in La Liga (there would have been no shortage in takers) or for him to just become a permanent member of the first team squad now but alas it wasn't to be.

Turtwig · 14-08-2015 12:09pm

He's not good enough to make the first team. Giving Barca's relegation to 3rd division he had to move.

Andersonisgod · 14-08-2015 12:26pm

Turtwig wrote: »

He's not good enough to make the first team. Giving Barca's relegation to 3rd division he had to move.

I'd say with Pedro moving on there would have been a decent amount of gametime for him in the squad. I think he's a better bet than Munir or Sandro.

MisterAnarchy · 14-08-2015 12:38pm

gimmick wrote: »

Traore signs for Villa? Aston bloody Villa on a 5 year deal.

Unfortunately we are going to see more and more of this nonsense happening due to the humongous tv money that the English teams get.
Its all about the money now .

gimmick · 14-08-2015 12:58pm

Whatever about the money in the EPL, I was hoping if he did leave he might sign for someone good. Villa are not that.

Andersonisgod · 14-08-2015 7:41pm

Lads the Barcelona game tonight vs Athletic Bilbao, is it on Sky Sports 5 or is it behind the red button cos it isn't listed yet Barcelona's Facebook say it's on Sky Sports 5.

Turtwig · 14-08-2015 8:19pm

SS5 showing on my listings anyway.

JPA · 14-08-2015 8:37pm

gimmick wrote: »

Whatever about the money in the EPL, I was hoping if he did leave he might sign for someone good. Villa are not that.

Don't give out about Villa, give out about Barca clearing out their academy.

Turtwig · 14-08-2015 8:42pm

Sky have changed their listings. Red button Now.
(Rain delays in tennis)

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