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Budget 2020, Another tenner or is it twenty

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,531 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    A friend of mine has a bar in Cabo Roig and he gets loads of Brits going over on the 'Fag Run' that will stay one night or maybe the weekend. All perfectly legal. In Ireland, coming from an EU country, you can basically bring in as much as you want once it's for personal use. With cheap flights it's more than worth it and I have no doubt that plenty of people do so.

    I thought you had to pay tax on them if you one of the unlucky ones whose bag was checked?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Stop smoking would be this correspondents advice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    What has Fine Gael achieved since 2011? Very very little.
    They continued the FF economic policies and have borrowed us to 200m of national debt.
    The economy has recovered somewhat but none of it was due to a FG policy decision.
    Apart from that they have overseen disasters in health, housing, broadband, insurance fraud, cervical cancer etc.
    They had a huge opportunity but achieved very little if anything. Very disappointing.
    Another budget with zero vision.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    I thought you had to pay tax on them if you one of the unlucky ones whose bag was checked?

    You pay your tax at source once inside the EU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,647 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Citizens Information has more info, I think if you are on leave as a result of a disability your entitlement would be there if you return to work. In general though, it seems that you are more disadvantaged if you've worked and then need assistance.

    My wife and I both have disabilities. She thought she read somewhere that we would be able to reapply for medical cards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,531 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    My wife and I both have disabilities. She thought she read somewhere that we would be able to reapply for medical cards?

    You should ring your local citizens information, they'll be able to help you and will have up to date information. I hope you get sorted, doctors visits add up for normal day to day ailments, a long-term issue would quickly eat into disposable income.


  • Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    I’m sure the €6/tonne carbon tax will make a big difference to global emissions lol #pretending


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 439 ✭✭FutureTeashock


    vladmydad wrote: »
    I’m sure the €6/tonne carbon tax will make a big difference to global emissions lol #pretending


    They think the Irish public are stupid and maybe they're right.


    The people elected these clowns so what can you do?


    A population of 5 million getting hammered with carbon taxes will make ZERO difference when China and India continue to use **** loads of coal.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Would it be worth a person's while to take a cheap flight to Spain or somewhere in the morning an fly back with yer cigarettes in the evening??

    It certainly would. You could do a day trip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,310 ✭✭✭Ardent


    A population of 5 million getting hammered with carbon taxes will make ZERO difference when China and India continue to use **** loads of coal.:mad:

    Yup, pissing in the wind. This new carbon tax is Leo hedging his bets and currying favour with those who voted for the Greens recently.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 439 ✭✭FutureTeashock


    Ardent wrote: »
    Yup, pissing in the wind. This new carbon tax is Leo hedging his bets and currying favour with those who voted for the Greens recently.


    People are letting themselves be hoodwinked by a 16 year old child!:o They actually think she's masterminding all this crap!



    Because of this real life Disney character millions will suffer as these taxes ratchet up year after year.


    :mad::mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    knipex wrote: »
    Were the bulk of them not closed over the last few years ??

    Hence our dependence on it now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    Is it the budget that increases minimum wage or at some other juncture ?
    Should increase it a small bit surely to encourage people into the workforce although many that are on welfare at this stage are work averse !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    Is it the budget that increases minimum wage or at some other juncture ?
    Should increase it a small bit surely to encourage people into the workforce although many that are on welfare at this stage are work averse !

    It's increased by 30c I heard, but contingent on no-deal Brexit not happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    They think the Irish public are stupid and maybe they're right.


    The people elected these clowns so what can you do?


    A population of 5 million getting hammered with carbon taxes will make ZERO difference when China and India continue to use **** loads of coal.:mad:

    But who do you vote for. We seem to be locked into these type of policies no matter whoes in government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,542 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    No indication that a revised budget will be brought in should Brexit occur with a deal or not occur at all, in both instances the economy will continue to grow.

    Utter plebs FG. No change to corporate tax but no change to the loopholes enabling the big MNCs pay effectively 0% tax.

    Paschal Donohue and the FG party should be hung from the gates of the Dail.

    FF would want an election immediately on any chance of breast being sorted and would not enable FG to buy the election with a revised budget


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭LiamoSail


    So nothing in there for the majority out working five days a week, but those that are able, yet haven’t worked a day in years still get their Christmas bonus.

    What’s the point in working Christmas week when you’d nearly get as much sitting on your ass?

    Those on disability, retired or recently unemployed and looking for work are fully deserving, along with those ineligible to work, and should be getting more throughout the year. It’s the remaining scrounges that I’m referring to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,386 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The variable rate Euro has made its annual budget day appearance. This is how it works. Someone gets a €10 increase and they are interviewed for the radio. That tenner is an insult, it would not even buy a pack of fags.

    But if there had been a reduction of €5, all hell would break loose. That fiver would be the difference between families being able to eat or starving. I reckon that one of those fivers is worth about ten times as much as one of the other tenners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,515 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Stop smoking would be this correspondents advice.

    Is smoking still cool as it was in the Fifties?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭snowgal


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    It certainly would. You could do a day trip.

    I’m planning on this but only smoke silk cut purple. Is there a way to find out where they’re sold in EU? I did a search but not easy to find definite answers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    snowgal wrote: »
    I’m planning on this but only smoke silk cut purple. Is there a way to find out where they’re sold in EU? I did a search but not easy to find definite answers

    You could ask in the Smoking forum: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=609


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    snowgal wrote: »
    I’m planning on this but only smoke silk cut purple. Is there a way to find out where they’re sold in EU? I did a search but not easy to find definite answers

    You don't have free rein to bring in as many cigarettes/tobacco as you like from other EU countries. The cheapest countries like Estonia and Lithuania are limited to 300 pp and even Spain and Portugal are, I think, 600pp. Just another anomaly like VRT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    And the smokes get hit with another increase - surely reaching a point of utter pointlessness now? The black market is exploding and more and more people are simply bringing duty free back rather than pay the extortionate prices here.

    I'm sure the revenue made from tobacco sales is not an insubstantial figure, but they might start seriously regretting all these billy big bollix increases when it starts taking a serious nosedive.

    It's taking a nose dive anyway because fewer people than ever are smoking. The numbers have dropped 3% more from 2015 to just 20% of the population last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Married, co-habiting couple/single parent family aged up to 65 with dependents: €266.50 for medical card and €441 for GP visit card.

    That's the threshold for the medical cards for one set of this society.

    However, if over 70, from today that threshold is now increased to almost €1000 per week for the same subset.

    Why does age matter Paschal, considering that group more than likely have no mortgages, childcare or education costs. They have however got free transport, fuel allowances, allowances for TV licences, etc.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,386 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Married, co-habiting couple/single parent family aged up to 65 with dependents: €266.50 for medical card and €441 for GP visit card.

    That's the threshold for the medical cards for one set of this society.

    However, if over 70, from today that threshold is now increased to almost €1000 per week for the same subset.

    Why does age matter Paschal, considering that group more than likely have no mortgages, childcare or education costs. They have however got free transport, fuel allowances, allowances for TV licences, etc.?

    Mortgages and other expenses are added on to the basic rate. €441 becomes €1174.32 for a working couple, in the example here. And discretionary cards can be issued over that limit.

    https://www2.hse.ie/services/medical-cards/medical-card-application-process/how-much-you-can-earn-and-still-qualify-for-a-medical-card.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    What another uninspiring budget, doing nothing for the middle classes that FG pretend to represent. Nothing of significance for housing /renting front either.

    Did they announce any significant increase in third level spending or will they let it continue to be under resourced?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,386 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    What another uninspiring budget, doing nothing for the middle classes that FG pretend to represent. Nothing of significance for housing /renting front either.

    Did they announce any significant increase in third level spending or will they let it continue to be under resourced?

    It used to be well resourced when only the middle classes sent their children to university. The lower classes have diluted the funding by getting in on the act.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    What another uninspiring budget, doing nothing for the middle classes that FG pretend to represent. Nothing of significance for housing /renting front either.

    Did they announce any significant increase in third level spending or will they let it continue to be under resourced?

    Why do people expect something every budget?

    That’s the nonsense that got us into trouble in the past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭Prefect_1998


    2 euro increase, its a disgrace !!!


    is this a joke ?

    'It was an insult when all I saw was €2 a week, it's a disgrace' - Jobseeker's Allowance recipient on Budget 2020 disappointment

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/news/it-was-an-insult-when-all-i-saw-was-€2-a-week-its-a-disgrace-jobseekers-allowance-recipient-on-budget-2020-disappointment/ar-AAIstpv?li=BBr5KbJ


    the guy interviewed said the below

    'said that he was disheartened that he is set to be €2-a-week better off, which he says is not enough for him to maintain a social life while running his house and car.

    do you agree that 2 increase is a joke?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Always Tired


    Still wondering why they have a double dole at Christmas when most businesses in retail and warehousing cant hire staff fast enough in December.

    Spoken like someone who never had to be stuck in the system which is full of Catch 22s and gives no incentive for part time work.

    If you go into the dole office in the beginning of December and say you got a part time job it would royally screw up your payments and you'd be running from pillar to post for nothing.

    The full time dole is paid in advance while the part time one is paid in arrears. So you start work the first week, maybe you get paid on that Friday, maybe not til next friday, maybe not til the end of the month. But if you pick up your dole the first week you start, you'll get a letter eventually to say you were overpaid. And you might need that money for not just your normal bills but commuting and uniform costs to get to your job.

    Then you'll have a delay while they change your payments to Xs and Os. And you'll be given forms to fill out your hours for the next week, which must be handed in by Wednesday to get your check for any days you didn't have work. This has to be signed by a manager at work and handed in to the dole office every week. If they dont have the roster up for next week by Wednesday you're screwed. Regardless, you'll still need to go into the dole office once and into the post office once each week in addition to your shifts, and possibly go into work on a day off too to get the form signed.

    Oh, and if you're on Jobpath, part time work doesn't get you off the scheme, so you can continue to travel to those appointments as well. But don't forget you might earn up to 20 euro extra a week for this for less than two months, sure it's a pure gravy train!

    Even i a minimum wage job theyll dock you about 32 euros a shift regardless of its length. Who do you think is going to get the shortest shifts, the temp or permanent staff? You could easily be down money for a day worked, and if you work more than 3, you get nothing from the dole. You could do 4 4 hour shifts at min wage and that would be all your income under this system.

    You'll probably be expected to work Christmas Eve, then, when it's all over, you'll be shown the door. Sent back to the dole office, which won't open until January, and will be backlogged, so have fun starting the year with all your money gone and facing a delay to get back on the dole.

    You'll be lucky to get payments back by the 3rd week of January. But one last thing, along with your first payment you'll get s letter explaining you were overpaid by about 100 euro that first week you started, how would you like to pay that back, in one go or in installments?

    Can't you just be grateful that you don't have to rely on a bonus for Christmas and deal with this stupid system? Do you think if the bonus was cancelled, the savings would go back into your wages? Keep in mind that it was cancelled before, and it went to the bank bailouts.

    Seriously, if you ever had to be unemployed you wouldn't begrudge people this, which also goes to those disabled, and goes right back into the economy. It all gets spent, probably in the same businesses you smug worker bees are employed by. Ask any retailer with a brain if they'd want the bonus cancelled at Christmas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    What another uninspiring budget, doing nothing for the middle classes that FG pretend to represent. Nothing of significance for housing /renting front either.

    Did they announce any significant increase in third level spending or will they let it continue to be under resourced?

    Ireland two big parties are neo-liberal, their goal is to appease the wealthy of society and big corporations not the middle class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    A grand a week after tax couple getting medical cards????

    Don’t care what age they are

    On that whack they can afford their own medical expenses


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭HorrorScope


    2 euro increase, its a disgrace !!!


    is this a joke ?

    'It was an insult when all I saw was €2 a week, it's a disgrace' - Jobseeker's Allowance recipient on Budget 2020 disappointment

    http://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/news/...5KbJ&ocid=iehp

    the guy interviewed said the below

    'said that he was disheartened that he is set to be €2-a-week better off, which he says is not enough for him to maintain a social life while running his house and car.

    do you agree that 2 increase is a joke?

    I think that prick should get a ****ing job.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think that prick should get a ****ing job.


    He's like a poor man's P Flynn. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,989 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    So people are queueing at petrol stations tonight to fill up before price increases at midnight.

    All to save maybe 2 euro?

    https://www.independent.ie/business/budget/motorists-queuing-at-petrol-stations-in-bid-to-beat-price-hikes-at-midnight-38576013.html

    Edit: in fact, it would be closer to 1 euro.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭HorrorScope


    NIMAN wrote: »
    So people are queueing at petrol stations tonight to fill up before price increases at midnight.

    All to save maybe 2 euro?

    Fair play to them, I hope they keep the engines running while they are queuing. I’m here reading boards by the light of my plastic and rubber bonfire in the back garden :) XR and the climate loons can suck a fat one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    NIMAN wrote: »
    So people are queueing at petrol stations tonight to fill up before price increases at midnight.

    All to save maybe 2 euro?

    Leaving their engines running while they wait in line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Leaving their engines running while they wait in line

    Off to crispy creme after that to get 12 donuts for e32!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    A grand a week after tax couple getting medical cards????

    Don’t care what age they are

    On that whack they can afford their own medical expenses

    Yeah how dare they be ambitious in life and contribute the most to society through taxes and expect something back.

    They need to sit on their holes so someone else can pay for it.

    That will teach them!!

    Sure that grand is all for them to keep for themselves.

    No mortgage.

    No childcare.

    No insurance.

    No groceries.

    No utility bills.

    No property tax.

    They keep it all for themselves!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    But who do you vote for. We seem to be locked into these type of policies no matter whoes in government.

    We have only had FG and FF as the main government parties in power. It's time for the other parties to be given a chance, FF and FG have each destroyed the country in different ways in recent times. Other parties need to be given a vote at the expense of FF and FG in the next election.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    lola85 wrote: »
    Why do people expect something every budget?

    That’s the nonsense that got us into trouble in the past.


    Sorry but it's not much to expect a break on being taxed to the hilt without at least some return on that. Plus investment in a sector that desparately needs it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,386 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    We have only had FG and FF as the main government parties in power. It's time for the other parties to be given a chance, FF and FG have each destroyed the country in different ways in recent times. Other parties need to be given a vote at the expense of FF and FG in the next election.

    We are in the unique position of having a party which has elected members here and in another jurisdiction. So we can judge them on their performance in government elsewhere. It is not encouraging.

    Other parties have been part of coalitions here, since the era of single party governments ended 40 years ago. Some others refuse to go into government, because they know that it leads to losing popularity.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sorry but it's not much to expect a break on being taxed to the hilt without at least some return on that. Plus investment in a sector that desparately needs it...

    USC anyone? The temporary measure that’s still here. Why the fook it’s called universal is anyone’s guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,386 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    USC anyone? The temporary measure that’s still here. Why the fook it’s called universal is anyone’s guess.

    It is simply a newer name for a combination of levies which have been around for decades. Nothing temporary about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    Sorry but it's not much to expect a break on being taxed to the hilt without at least some return on that. Plus investment in a sector that desparately needs it...

    Taxes to the hilt in one of the least taxed countries in the EU?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    USC anyone? The temporary measure that’s still here. Why the fook it’s called universal is anyone’s guess.

    FF again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    Marhay70 wrote: »
    You don't have free rein to bring in as many cigarettes/tobacco as you like from other EU countries. The cheapest countries like Estonia and Lithuania are limited to 300 pp and even Spain and Portugal are, I think, 600pp. Just another anomaly like VRT.

    Not true at all. Once they're for personal consumption you can actually bring in almost whatever you want. Such is the joy of being a member of the EU. For someone that smokes 40 a day then 1000 cigarettes is less than 4 weeks supply. I brought 600 cigarettes and 10 x 50g pouches from Estonia in 2017. Close enough to the same from Luxembourg this year and Belgium last year. No problem. My sister in law was stopped about a month ago with 2000 cigarettes from Spain. Again, no problem. Different ball game obviously if you're flying out every week and bringing that amount back but on an occasional basis it's not a problem.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    lola85 wrote: »
    FF again.

    Why are FG still charging us this ?

    Didn't they say they'll get rid of it ?

    Incrementally I suppose bit by bit
    It'll be changed to a carbon levy or something


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Sweet FA for mental health services, as per usual. No votes for FG there...

    If a no-deal Brexit is a bad as is feared, €1.2 billion will not be nearly enough to mitigate the fallout for us. The housing measures announced are way too blunt and modest in scope - and not properly thought out in terms of their unintended spillover effects - in their supposed role in augmenting current policy measures to tackle the housing affordability and supply crisis.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    lola85 wrote: »
    Taxes to the hilt in one of the least taxed countries in the EU?

    All relative when you compare on return on money including investment and the cost of living compared to elsewhere.


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