MOST HATED PERSON IN IRISH HISTORY?

bobbysands81 · 15-10-2019 7:43am

How do I vote “all of the above”?

JohnnyFlash · 15-10-2019 7:45am

bobbysands81 wrote: »

How do I vote “all of the above”?

You can’t, Bobby. This isn’t the Northern Ireland elections - you can only vote once.

Force Carrier · 15-10-2019 8:03am

bobbysands81 wrote: »

How do I vote “all of the above”?

"He who defends everything defends nothing" Frederick the Great.

RayCon · 15-10-2019 8:31am

Bosco .... little prick.

randd1 · 15-10-2019 10:54am

John Charles McQuaid?

Surely has to one of the most hideous humans to ever wield power in this country, hundreds of thousands left to suffer under the Catholic Rule he had enforced which encouraged suffering through poverty (all while the clergy lived in luxury), the 40/50 years of emigration that accompanied it, the seemingly endless abuse of children, the enslavement of women in laundries and workhouses, baby selling, the entrenchment of Official Ireland as a ruling class under his guidance.

His vision for the country was a total and utter disaster for people forced to endure it. Has to up there.

Your Face · 15-10-2019 10:56am

randd1 wrote: »

John Charles McQuaid?

Surely has to one of the most hideous humans to ever wield power in this country, hundreds of thousands left to suffer under the Catholic Rule he had enforced which encouraged suffering through poverty (all while the clergy lived in luxury), the 40/50 years of emigration that accompanied it, the seemingly endless abuse of children, the enslavement of women in laundries and workhouses, baby selling, the entrenchment of Official Ireland as a ruling class under his guidance.

His vision for the country was a total and utter disaster for people forced to endure it. Has to up there.

And nobody knew anything.

Fritzbox · 15-10-2019 11:22am

randd1 wrote: »

John Charles McQuaid?

Surely has to one of the most hideous humans to ever wield power in this country, hundreds of thousands left to suffer under the Catholic Rule he had enforced which encouraged suffering through poverty (all while the clergy lived in luxury), the 40/50 years of emigration that accompanied it, the seemingly endless abuse of children, the enslavement of women in laundries and workhouses, baby selling, the entrenchment of Official Ireland as a ruling class under his guidance.

His vision for the country was a total and utter disaster for people forced to endure it. Has to up there.

The Bishop had his own vision of Ireland, and Irish people accepted that vision as their own. how can you blame McQuaid for anything - he was a bishop in the Catholic Church - his prerogatives and beliefs were clear.

storker · 15-10-2019 11:35am

Eamonn Dunphy during the Italian World Cup?

LordBasil · 15-10-2019 11:53am

storker wrote: »

Eamonn Dunphy during the Italian World Cup?

Also him during the 2002 World Cup

One Half of the Country Roy Keane during 2002 WC, the other half Mick McCarthy.

John Delaney by pretty much everyone for many years!!

partyguinness · 15-10-2019 12:40pm

Fritzbox wrote: »

The Bishop had his own vision of Ireland, and Irish people accepted that vision as their own. how can you blame McQuaid for anything - he was a bishop in the Catholic Church - his prerogatives and beliefs were clear.

So the Irish asked for it then. I see. What was the choice?

partyguinness · 15-10-2019 12:47pm

randd1 wrote: »

John Charles McQuaid?

Surely has to one of the most hideous humans to ever wield power in this country, hundreds of thousands left to suffer under the Catholic Rule he had enforced which encouraged suffering through poverty (all while the clergy lived in luxury), the 40/50 years of emigration that accompanied it, the seemingly endless abuse of children, the enslavement of women in laundries and workhouses, baby selling, the entrenchment of Official Ireland as a ruling class under his guidance.

His vision for the country was a total and utter disaster for people forced to endure it. Has to up there.

It does make my blood boil the masses doffing their caps to this odious creature 50-60 years ago. Living in their "palaces" and leaving to have their ring kissed.

Monopolized education and healthcare. The RCC were the main proponents and cheer leaders of segregation in this country during the 19th century- not the English.

Parasites.

Fritzbox · 15-10-2019 12:52pm

partyguinness wrote: »

So the Irish asked for it then. I see. What was the choice?

There was no choice - bishops in the Catholic church are not selected by popular poll.
The Irish people could have made other personal choices.

Fritzbox · 15-10-2019 12:54pm

partyguinness wrote: »

The RCC were the main proponents and cheer leaders of segregation in this country during the 19th century- not the English.

Büllsh!t!

Your Face · 15-10-2019 12:57pm

partyguinness wrote: »

So the Irish asked for it then. I see. What was the choice?

Formerly disenfranchised majority Roman Catholic population doesn't mind a pro Roman Catholic policy - shocker.

partyguinness · 15-10-2019 1:20pm

Fritzbox wrote: »

Büllsh!t!

Well that's a thorough and well thought out rebuttal.

There is some very good reading material out there that highlight the lengths the RCC went to after the Famine to monopolize education and healthcare in Ireland. E.g it is no coincidence that the boarding schools in Ireland founded all within a 20-30 year period during the mid 19 century.

Ireland was to become the little breeding ground for the missions. A nice conveyor belt of fresh meat.

When Ireland was at it's weakest and most desperate post Famine, the RCC swept in like vultures mid 19th century and set up a nice little cartel for themselves. One aspect was to lobby the English and insist that education be segregated. This is historical and documented fact.

Judging by your emotive knee jerk reaction I will hunt down an article for you.

In fact, Fintan O'Toole wrote a great piece on it a number of years ago. I will try and find it

barney shamrock · 15-10-2019 1:22pm

Peig.

dundalkfc10 · 15-10-2019 1:25pm

Michael Collins, Sell Out!

partyguinness · 15-10-2019 1:27pm

Fritzbox wrote: »

There was no choice - bishops in the Catholic church are not selected by popular poll.
The Irish people could have made other personal choices.

Don't be so ridiculous. You are showing a crass ignorance of the Irish society during the 19th and early 20th century.

Who said anything about bishops being selected by popular poll?

dogmatix · 15-10-2019 1:49pm

HECTOR Ó H'EOCHAGÁIN. He should be on the list also. Back in the 2000’s this gob****e was inexplicably everywhere on the telly, the radio, advertising whiskey and those f*cking awful irish horse racing ad’s. His brand of cheeky, chummy, “hail, fellow, well met!” mateyness was the irritation. And then he seemed to vanish - hopefully back to Navan, never to return.

partyguinness · 15-10-2019 1:51pm

dogmatix wrote: »

HECTOR Ó H'EOCHAGÁIN. He should be on the list also. Back in the 2000’s this gob****e was inexplicably everywhere on the telly, the radio, advertising whiskey and those f*cking awful irish horse racing ad’s. His brand of cheeky, chummy, “hail, fellow, well met!” mateyness was the irritation. And then he seemed to vanish - hopefully back to Navan, never to return.

Jaysus I always thought he was a Galway man with the big crusty red head on him.

martingriff · 15-10-2019 6:03pm

Anyone mention Stephen Ireland or Declan Rice yet

dundalkfc10 · 16-10-2019 5:08pm

martingriff wrote: »

Anyone mention Stephen Ireland or Declan Rice yet

Why would anyone hate a footballer who decided not to play for a particular team

s7ryf3925pivug · 16-10-2019 5:30pm

There's a theme to those options.

Padraig Pearse was as responsible as anyone else for scuppering home rule and causing partition. Plus he was a paedo. How many of the people in the poll are paedos?

I vote some Pope or other for protecting child abusers and strangling Irish society.

Edgware · 16-10-2019 6:33pm

partyguinness wrote: »

It does make my blood boil the masses doffing their caps to this odious creature 50-60 years ago. Living in their "palaces" and leaving to have their ring kissed.

Monopolized education and healthcare. The RCC were the main proponents and cheer leaders of segregation in this country during the 19th century- not the English.

Parasites.

"have their ring kissed" Were they Labour Party politicians up in the park

Pikey · 17-10-2019 9:19am

Arlene Foster

mikemac2 · 17-10-2019 7:22pm

partyguinness wrote: »

Churchill was a mediocre politician with far more failures than victories.

He did not win WWII. He never fired a shot in his life and it was the Russians and US that did most of the hard graft during WWII.

Did he not take part in a cavalry charge in Sudan, escape from a POW camp in South Africa and go to the trenches in the great war?

He probably did fire a gun I'd say

Fanny Wank · 17-10-2019 7:23pm

Larry Murphy

Ipso · 17-10-2019 7:27pm

mikemac2 wrote: »

Did he not take part in a cavalry charge in Sudan, escape from a POW camp in South Africa and go to the trenches in the great war?

He probably did fire a gun I'd say

Fired some gas at Iraqis.

17-10-2019 7:29pm

Ipso wrote: »

Fired some gas at Iraqis.

No he didn’t.

branie2 · 17-10-2019 7:34pm

Definitely Cromwell

whisky_galore · 17-10-2019 7:40pm

mikemac2 wrote: »

Did he not take part in a cavalry charge in Sudan, escape from a POW camp in South Africa and go to the trenches in the great war?

He probably did fire a gun I'd say

He was in a good few war zones in fairness.

Imho any leader of a country that sends their troops into a war should have had combat experience themselves.

Beechwoodspark · 17-10-2019 7:41pm

dogmatix wrote: »

HECTOR Ó H'EOCHAGÁIN. He should be on the list also. Back in the 2000’s this gob****e was inexplicably everywhere on the telly, the radio, advertising whiskey and those f*cking awful irish horse racing ad’s. His brand of cheeky, chummy, “hail, fellow, well met!” mateyness was the irritation. And then he seemed to vanish - hopefully back to Navan, never to return.

He had a good...no, great...agent

ToddyDoody · 17-10-2019 7:50pm

Here's a nice fella. John Toler, 1st Earl of Norbury.

Supposodly he was responsible for sending the parliament back to London in 1800 / 1801. Known as 'the hanging judge'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Toler,_1st_Earl_of_Norbury

screamer · 17-10-2019 9:24pm

I think there’s a lot of hated figures in more recent history who betrayed us royally. Don’t see any of them included..... anyways

normanoffside · 17-10-2019 10:14pm

Famous Irish Sports Star, whoever he is.

ToddyDoody · 17-10-2019 11:16pm

screamer wrote: »

I think there’s a lot of hated figures in more recent history who betrayed us royally. Don’t see any of them included..... anyways

In the context of history though. It'd be terrible to conclude Conor McGregor is the most hated person in Irish history when Henry the VIII wiped out entire towns in less than a year in the country.

TheRodgers · 17-10-2019 11:58pm

irish sports star.

The Tetrarch · 22-10-2019 8:19pm

The Tetrarch wrote: »

Fargo Boyle for trying to rig the sheep contest by scaring Chris the sheep, his own sheep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_(sheep)

Chris the sheep: Merino with famously overgrown fleece dies
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50135160

Invisibleman · 22-10-2019 8:20pm

Dev what an absolute pr**k

MOST HATED PERSON IN IRISH HISTORY?

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