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Cycling on the luas at night

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    #32
    28064212
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    ELM327 wrote: »
    And are we presuming that the cyclist should observe the luas lights which do not align with the correct light format in the SI?
    No, because the junctions which only have Luas lights are tram-only lanes, which are illegal to cycle on. Mixed-use roads with Luas tracks have regular lights
    average_runner wrote: »
    The one outside Trinity where the bus and luas merge, someone will die there, cyclists constantly not obeying the lights there when on the track
    That section is a tram lane, it's illegal to cycle on the track part

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    #33
    brocbrocach
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    machaseh wrote: »
    Well I guess I'll avoid the luas tracks at night from now on then. I am always just a bit afraid of biking on the quays you see.


    Well, the easiest solution is to continue cycling it but to yield at all junctions.


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    #34
    average_runner
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    28064212 wrote: »
    No, because the junctions which only have Luas lights are tram-only lanes, which are illegal to cycle on. Mixed-use roads with Luas tracks have regular lights


    That section is a tram lane, it's illegal to cycle on the track part

    Well most cyclists in Dublin dont know that.


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    #35
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,506 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    28064212 wrote: »
    No, because the junctions which only have Luas lights are tram-only lanes, which are illegal to cycle on. Mixed-use roads with Luas tracks have regular lights


    That section is a tram lane, it's illegal to cycle on the track part
    Ok then the cyclist is wrong by default then as they shouldnt have been there at all.


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    28064212
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    ELM327 wrote: »
    Ok then the cyclist is wrong by default then as they shouldnt have been there at all.
    Yes, although the cyclist being in the wrong doesn't automatically absolve any and all other road users

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    #37
    lgk
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    28064212 wrote: »
    No, because the junctions which only have Luas lights are tram-only lanes, which are illegal to cycle on. Mixed-use roads with Luas tracks have regular lights


    That section is a tram lane, it's illegal to cycle on the track part

    Yeah, illegal for any vehicle to proceed past the no-entry signs at the start of those luas-only sections.


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    #38
    cdaly_
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    28064212 wrote: »
    No, because the junctions which only have Luas lights are tram-only lanes, which are illegal to cycle on. Mixed-use roads with Luas tracks have regular lights


    That section is a tram lane, it's illegal to cycle on the track part
    average_runner wrote: »
    Well most cyclists in Dublin dont know that.

    I don't think that's the case. I'd say most of them know...


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    #39
    GreeBo
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    OP if the luas line crossed a road I would have expected there to be a junction with lights, what state were the luas "traffic" lights in when you entered the junction?


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    #40
    salmocab
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    GreeBo wrote: »
    OP if the luas line crossed a road I would have expected there to be a junction with lights, what state were the luas "traffic" lights in when you entered the junction?

    If they are luas type lights then presumably at night they are either off or at the horizontal for stop


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    #41
    GreeBo
    Registered Users Posts: 27,088 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    salmocab wrote: »
    If they are luas type lights then presumably at night they are either off or at the horizontal for stop

    Which is my point, how could the OP think he has right of way when facing a stop signal.


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    #42
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,296 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Which is my point, how could the OP think he has right of way when facing a stop signal.

    Based on the actual OP he was confident of no trams coming along and just started cycling without paying attention to the crossing. I don’t think he thought he had right of way I think he didn’t think at all about it.


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    #43
    GreeBo
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    salmocab wrote: »
    Based on the actual OP he was confident of no trams coming along and just started cycling without paying attention to the crossing. I don’t think he thought he had right of way I think he didn’t think at all about it.

    Well he does clearly say in his first post "I thought I'd have right of way"


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    #44
    colm_mcm
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    machaseh wrote: »
    Oh I didnt know

    Why not allow cyclists at night if there's no luas anyway, or better yet construct a bike path along that route.

    Because of people like you getting in accidents


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    #45
    magicbastarder
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    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Because of people like you getting in accidents
    eh, if they did make it officially a cycle track, the signs and signals would obviously clarify right of way in a sense that's not needed at the moment.

    anyway, welcome to the cycling forum; no need to be snippy, thanks.


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    #46
    LennoxR
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    machaseh wrote: »
    Well I guess I'll avoid the luas tracks at night from now on then. I am always just a bit afraid of biking on the quays you see.


    To be honest I'd go on using the backstreet with the Luas tracks (I do). It is definitely safer than the south quays. Just be careful at intersections, that's all.


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    #47
    AndrewJRenko
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    average_runner wrote: »
    Well most cyclists in Dublin dont know that.
    Most drivers heading east on Mayor St Upper don't seem to know the laws there either; https://goo.gl/maps/i3H51GdMo2DHWWmz7


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    #48
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,488 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    daragh_ wrote: »
    Do Easons know that someone leaked their CCTV footage?


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