Video teaching

Teach30 · 13-01-2021 8:00pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

Has anybody tried goggle meets? Are the majority of you sticking to timetable with video classes?

I’m giving them reading and questions to do and doing a live session one class a week with juniors. Not possible for me to go live for every class and in fairness lecturing them for 40 mins with little to no feedback from a class is soul destroying.

Mardy Bum · 14-01-2021 12:48pm

Teach30 wrote: »

I’m giving them reading and questions to do and doing a live session one class a week with juniors. Not possible for me to go live for every class and in fairness lecturing them for 40 mins with little to no feedback from a class is soul destroying.

Live lessons are not suitable unless the teacher is an expert in that methodology anyway. Prerecorded or well structured ppts are far more effective for students. The only value of a live lesson is to mimic the experience of a school day. They are useful for checking in on students but that is it.

Teach30 · 14-01-2021 1:09pm

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Live lessons are not suitable unless the teacher is an expert in that methodology anyway. Prerecorded or well structured ppts are far more effective for students. The only value of a live lesson is to mimic the experience of a school day. They are useful for checking in on students but that is it.

I recorded a ppt for seniors but upload time was hours so abandoned that. As I generally teach from the book I have no ppts to use so spending time making these but it is time consuming.
Seniors do prefer the lives as its keeping them focused. Not ideal for anyone who is unable to join the live them though.

Checking on learning is impossible at min tbh.

thegreatescape · 14-01-2021 1:48pm

Teach30 wrote: »

I recorded a ppt for seniors but upload time was hours so abandoned that. As I generally teach from the book I have no ppts to use so spending time making these but it is time consuming.
Seniors do prefer the lives as its keeping them focused. Not ideal for anyone who is unable to join the live them though.

Checking on learning is impossible at min tbh.

Have you tried Loom? It's a free software that allows you to screen record and talk through your PowerPoint. I'm using it this time round and finding it brilliant.

As for PPTs, a lot of book companies have PowerPoints available to download when you sign up online. These are easy to modify and adjust.

wirelessdude01 · 14-01-2021 2:08pm

thegreatescape wrote: »

Have you tried Loom? It's a free software that allows you to screen record and talk through your PowerPoint. I'm using it this time round and finding it brilliant.

As for PPTs, a lot of book companies have PowerPoints available to download when you sign up online. These are easy to modify and adjust.

Second Loom here. It really is a godsend. So easy to use. Also recommend vocaroo for voice notes.

Teach30 · 14-01-2021 2:18pm

thegreatescape wrote: »

Have you tried Loom? It's a free software that allows you to screen record and talk through your PowerPoint. I'm using it this time round and finding it brilliant.

As for PPTs, a lot of book companies have PowerPoints available to download when you sign up online. These are easy to modify and adjust.

It won’t let me add to chrome as I dont have permission but waiting on school It person to get back to me on it. Hopefully will be sorted by next week.

How long can videos be for it?

mirrorwall14 · 14-01-2021 4:19pm

Teach30 wrote: »

It won’t let me add to chrome as I dont have permission but waiting on school It person to get back to me on it. Hopefully will be sorted by next week.

How long can videos be for it?

You can apply for a free upgrade as a teacher. No limit then

wirelessdude01 · 14-01-2021 7:11pm

Teach30 wrote: »

It won’t let me add to chrome as I dont have permission but waiting on school It person to get back to me on it. Hopefully will be sorted by next week.

How long can videos be for it?

Were you trying to install the desktop app or the chrome extension?

The desktop app is in my opinion a lot easier to use.

No limit to length of video and you can also upgrade if you have a school email address.

Teach30 · 14-01-2021 10:06pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Were you trying to install the desktop app or the chrome extension?

The desktop app is in my opinion a lot easier to use.

No limit to length of video and you can also upgrade if you have a school email address.

So I’ve borrowed my brothers laptop and have installed the chrome extension just to see how it would work. Recorded a video about 12 minutes long and waiting for it to load on the loom page, have been waiting 15 minutes and it’s about half way there.

Would this be the norm?

mirrorwall14 · 14-01-2021 10:07pm

Teach30 wrote: »

So I’ve borrowed my brothers laptop and have installed the chrome extension just to see how it would work. Recorded a video about 12 minutes long and waiting for it to load on the loom page, have been waiting 15 minutes and it’s about half way there.

Would this be the norm?

That’s pretty slow. What’s your internet connection and set up?

wirelessdude01 · 14-01-2021 10:10pm

Teach30 wrote: »

So I’ve borrowed my brothers laptop and have installed the chrome extension just to see how it would work. Recorded a video about 12 minutes long and waiting for it to load on the loom page, have been waiting 15 minutes and it’s about half way there.

Would this be the norm?

Not the norm. I recorded one today that was about 22mins long. Had it saved, changed the settings so that it cannot be downloaded and it is linked and scheduled to go out tomorrow morning on Google classroom. That took less than a minute.

Teach30 · 14-01-2021 10:11pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

That’s pretty slow. What’s your internet connection and set up?

Ok, I was hoping this would be answer to my problems. I have Eir broadband and upload speed of 0.3mbps.

mirrorwall14 · 14-01-2021 10:13pm

Teach30 wrote: »

Ok, I was hoping this would be answer to my problems. I have Eir broadband and upload speed of 0.3mbps.

Oh Jesus. Yeah not really. Are you plugged in with a cable? You definitely need to be using Ethernet

Teach30 · 14-01-2021 10:15pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Oh Jesus. Yeah not really. Are you plugged in with a cable? You definitely need to be using Ethernet

Yea it’s terrible. I can’t use cable as box is in draughty hall so v cold and too noisy downstairs where it is for working. Pity.

Will persevere with this, it’s moving along slowly.

mirrorwall14 · 14-01-2021 10:18pm

Teach30 wrote: »

Yea it’s terrible. I can’t use cable as box is in draughty hall so v cold and too noisy downstairs where it is for working. Pity.

Will persevere with this, it’s moving along slowly.

Even a really long lead you only plug in for the upload would be quicker I’d guess. I’m assuming you are in the country

Teach30 · 14-01-2021 10:23pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Even a really long lead you only plug in for the upload would be quicker I’d guess. I’m assuming you are in the country

Rural broadband is chronic. Thanks for help, was worth a try. Will see if anyone has a cable I could borrow over weekend.

Loom is great but unfortunately once again internet issues hamper teaching methods. Government really need to invest in the fibre rollout.

wirelessdude01 · 14-01-2021 10:27pm

Teach30 wrote: »

Yea it’s terrible. I can’t use cable as box is in draughty hall so v cold and too noisy downstairs where it is for working. Pity.

Will persevere with this, it’s moving along slowly.

Maybe next time try recording the video and before you hit save, connect to the router using an ethernet cable. Give it about 30secs to switch over and then hit save. Can't do any harm.

Teach30 · 15-01-2021 12:10am

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Maybe next time try recording the video and before you hit save, connect to the router using an ethernet cable. Give it about 30secs to switch over and then hit save. Can't do any harm.

Thanks, lost the will with it as house phone rang and internet stopped, laptop froze so restarted and recorded video gone.

It’s a sign to keep doing live classes I think!

Mardy Bum · 15-01-2021 5:59pm

Teach30 wrote: »

Thanks, lost the will with it as house phone rang and internet stopped, laptop froze so restarted and recorded video gone.

It’s a sign to keep doing live classes I think!

I'd say it is a sign to change providers. Vodafone use the eir line and provide much better speeds.

Teach30 · 15-01-2021 6:12pm

Mardy Bum wrote: »

I'd say it is a sign to change providers. Vodafone use the eir line and provide much better speeds.

Thanks it’s a house phone setup I’m not bill payer so have no control over it and they won’t change. I’m Vodafone myself and 4g reception terrible in house unfortunately.

solerina · 15-01-2021 7:13pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Not the norm. I recorded one today that was about 22mins long. Had it saved, changed the settings so that it cannot be downloaded and it is linked and scheduled to go out tomorrow morning on Google classroom. That took less than a minute.

Does anyone know if you can prevent the recorded classes from being downloaded on Teams, I have recorded all my live classes this week so students who missed them aren’t disadvantages but I see they can be downloaded which I am not comfortable with.

mirrorwall14 · 15-01-2021 7:27pm

solerina wrote: »

Does anyone know if you can prevent the recorded classes from being downloaded on Teams, I have recorded all my live classes this week so students who missed them aren’t disadvantages but I see they can be downloaded which I am not comfortable with.

We aren’t teams but we are not allowed share recordings with students unless we manually remove students names, faces and voices from the recordings. I use loom as a result to record demo’s only and warn the students when recording goes on and off and pause when they’re talking. Any recording can be downloaded no matter what you use. Even if it’s a case that they screen record the video

wirelessdude01 · 15-01-2021 7:27pm

solerina wrote: »

Does anyone know if you can prevent the recorded classes from being downloaded on Teams, I have recorded all my live classes this week so students who missed them aren’t disadvantages but I see they can be downloaded which I am not comfortable with.

Sorry, can't help with teams.

amacca · 15-01-2021 11:11pm

solerina wrote: »

Does anyone know if you can prevent the recorded classes from being downloaded on Teams, I have recorded all my live classes this week so students who missed them aren’t disadvantages but I see they can be downloaded which I am not comfortable with.

As previous poster mentioned it doesnt matter what you do there are ways to screen record or they can take a second device and use the camera on that to record the screen your video is on)

In stream (a video app in ofg8ce 365) you can change permissions to view only so students are not the down as the owner of a video.....where are your videos stored you may be able to change the permissions on them to allow those with access view only access. Doesn't do anything to help with the problems in the paragraph above but might be some help and will prevent any editing of video etc

maynooth_rules · 16-01-2021 5:46pm

What have those with kids done? We are pretty much compelty live teaching. My wife is a part time nurse so from next week we have to make a decision. My boy has just turned 4. Do I keep him at home where he will disturd all the lessons, or do I send him to his crèche as we are deemed front line workers. I really don't know what to do.

Jane98 · 26-01-2021 2:00pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Not the norm. I recorded one today that was about 22mins long. Had it saved, changed the settings so that it cannot be downloaded and it is linked and scheduled to go out tomorrow morning on Google classroom. That took less than a minute.

How do you change the settings to prevent it being downloaded?

wirelessdude01 · 26-01-2021 2:23pm

Jane98 wrote: »

How do you change the settings to prevent it being downloaded?

On loom, click into your video, then video preferences and the option to stop download is in there.

Jane98 · 26-01-2021 2:25pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

On loom, click into your video, then video preferences and the option to stop download is in there.

That's very handy, I use screencastify to make videos and I dont think it has that option.

keoclassic · 26-01-2021 5:52pm

Did any of you have the experience of being zoom bombed? If so what was your school able to do about it? I know 3 people, all teachers, who had very personal things said to them live in class and principals saying that couldn't really do much about it!! Your thoughts?

wirelessdude01 · 26-01-2021 6:34pm

keoclassic wrote: »

Did any of you have the experience of being zoom bombed? If so what was your school able to do about it? I know 3 people, all teachers, who had very personal things said to them live in class and principals saying that couldn't really do much about it!! Your thoughts?

What was said to them?

I removed zoom privileges from kids last year due to small things.

mirrorwall14 · 26-01-2021 6:36pm

No bombing here but I have the waiting room on and I use grid so I can see all students and it highlights them if speaking so I’d know immediately

galwayhooker · 26-01-2021 6:44pm

thegreatescape wrote: »

Have you tried Loom? It's a free software that allows you to screen record and talk through your PowerPoint. I'm using it this time round and finding it brilliant.

As for PPTs, a lot of book companies have PowerPoints available to download when you sign up online. These are easy to modify and adjust.

I used loom last year using my school gmail address to log in and was able to record videos over 5 minutes - this year unless you upgrade and pay money you can only record 5 min videos. I see it’s the same with screen castify. Are you all paying to use these sites to record videos? Just find in this lockdown if you want to upgrade to a teacher account on a lot of websites.

mirrorwall14 · 26-01-2021 6:53pm

galwayhooker wrote: »

I used loom last year using my school gmail address to log in and was able to record videos over 5 minutes - this year unless you upgrade and pay money you can only record 5 min videos. I see it’s the same with screen castify. Are you all paying to use these sites to record videos? Just find in this lockdown if you want to upgrade to a teacher account on a lot of websites.

Loom have a free upgrade for educators. You just google loom for teachers to find the page

wirelessdude01 · 26-01-2021 6:55pm

galwayhooker wrote: »

I used loom last year using my school gmail address to log in and was able to record videos over 5 minutes - this year unless you upgrade and pay money you can only record 5 min videos. I see it’s the same with screen castify. Are you all paying to use these sites to record videos? Just find in this lockdown if you want to upgrade to a teacher account on a lot of websites.

Free upgrade for teachers. Just google loom for education or something similar and it comes up.

keoclassic · 26-01-2021 7:44pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

What was said to them?

I removed zoom privileges from kids last year due to small things.

Sexual remarks to females and derogatory comments to the males. Very cowardly stuff. They share the links and the students can invite anyone in! No security.

keoclassic · 26-01-2021 7:45pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

No bombing here but I have the waiting room on and I use grid so I can see all students and it highlights them if speaking so I’d know immediately

But, how do you know its not someone else in the waiting room with a students name for cover?

wirelessdude01 · 26-01-2021 7:46pm

keoclassic wrote: »

Sexual remarks to females and derogatory comments to the males. Very cowardly stuff. They share the links and the students can invite anyone in! No security.

What does the principal say think?

Mardy Bum · 26-01-2021 8:02pm

keoclassic wrote: »

But, how do you know its not someone else in the waiting room with a students name for cover?

The school should have a policy and it should be implemented. It is clearly a breach of the code of behaviour. I would advise using a platform that is more secure and GDPR compliant like Teams. Teachers should not be afraid to demand that the code of behaviour is implemented.

mirrorwall14 · 26-01-2021 8:03pm

keoclassic wrote: »

But, how do you know its not someone else in the waiting room with a students name for cover?

We only admit students from their school email. No one else allowed in. I do allow about 30 seconds lee way if it’s clearly a student in the class, I let them in and tell them to log out and switch account. Google meet alerts me if it’s someone outside the schools addresses. I’ve got quick entry turned off

am_zarathustra · 26-01-2021 9:05pm

I kind of assumed most schools would be using a more integrated system like Teams? Much harder to just share around a link etc

keoclassic · 26-01-2021 9:06pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

What does the principal say think?

That he has very limited scope to deal with it. But as she says herself. It had to be someone in her class.

keoclassic · 26-01-2021 9:07pm

Mardy Bum wrote: »

The school should have a policy and it should be implemented. It is clearly a breach of the code of behaviour. I would advise using a platform that is more secure and GDPR compliant like Teams. Teachers should not be afraid to demand that the code of behaviour is implemented.

How do you implement it if its a faceless and nameless act?

keoclassic · 26-01-2021 9:08pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

We only admit students from their school email. No one else allowed in. I do allow about 30 seconds lee way if it’s clearly a student in the class, I let them in and tell them to log out and switch account. Google meet alerts me if it’s someone outside the schools addresses. I’ve got quick entry turned off

That's a good idea. Like make them register?

mirrorwall14 · 26-01-2021 9:17pm

keoclassic wrote: »

That's a good idea. Like make them register?

They all have a school email address already. So I can either just use the link in google classroom or create a meeting in my calendar with the quick add setting turned off.

Not sure how to do any of that with zoom to be fair!!

Dickie10 · 31-01-2021 10:50pm

are you allowed record live classes? what about gdpr with students in a live class?

Dickie10 · 31-01-2021 10:54pm

keoclassic wrote: »

Sexual remarks to females and derogatory comments to the males. Very cowardly stuff. They share the links and the students can invite anyone in! No security.

OK straight away thats a red flag for me. I would write down everything said repaort to management and refuse to interact with any class live that does that. No way i would bother with a Live lesson if that was going on. Thats crazy.

wirelessdude01 · 31-01-2021 10:55pm

Dickie10 wrote: »

are you allowed record live classes? what about gdpr with students in a live class?

We aren't in our school.

Dickie10 · 31-01-2021 10:59pm

no wouldnt imagine its legal at all. I might record a few this week to have instead of doing all Live classes as I am at the moment.I will just record in night doing a few classes over PP

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