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RTE Gold discussion thread

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  • #502
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    alzer100 wrote: »
    In my opinion, I think it was a good decision to keep the station as an online service irrespective of what their original intentions were when they announced the closure of the DAB network in 2019.

    Unless they ask the minister and the department to change the variety of sound and vision broadcasts they cannot unilaterally axe any of their digital stations or channel. They may not add any new ones either.

    All of the digital stations are available on 2 broadcast systems Saorview and Virgin Media. They made a decision after a year and half not to approach the minister or the department to close the digital stations.

    The channels stay put until the Minister makes a decision and that has often taken forever, even at time a decision is not made.

    You have to love Section 103 of the Broadcasting Act 2009.


  • #503
    Former Former Former
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,231 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Level 42 wrote: »
    why dont they make it available on the wireless -thing would do well

    Couldn't see that going down well with 4FM Sunshine, Q102, etc


  • #504
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,141 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    i'm sure it wouldn't go down well with those stations, but a proper country would just tell them suck it up and compete.
    they are commercial stations, they don't have a god given right to any audience.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #505
    Brian CivilEng
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭Brian CivilEng


    The thing is, the commercial stations already have lots of unregulated competition with Spotify and podcasts. I know when I commuted that's what I listened to rather than anything on the FM band. RTÉ Gold actually brought me back to broadcast radio from Spotify thanks to lack of news and ads but it still has a human choosing the music and an Irish accent between songs.


  • #506
    Cube98
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Cube98


    It's interesting that nobody seems to mention or care about the other RTE digital radio stations, they tried doing live shows on 2xm a couple of years ago but nobody noticed and there's actually more of a gap in the market for that kind of station since TXFM closed


  • #507
    Former Former Former
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,231 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    end of the road wrote: »
    i'm sure it wouldn't go down well with those stations, but a proper country would just tell them suck it up and compete.
    they are commercial stations, they don't have a god given right to any audience.

    I think it's far more likely that people would be giving out that RTE was using public money to trample all over private competitors, no diversity in the media, etc etc.


  • #508
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,141 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Cube98 wrote: »
    It's interesting that nobody seems to mention or care about the other RTE digital radio stations, they tried doing live shows on 2xm a couple of years ago but nobody noticed and there's actually more of a gap in the market for that kind of station since TXFM closed


    not really, the audiences for such stations are unlikely to be discussing them on here.
    in fact i would say those discussing gold on here are the minority of the audience.
    either way the digital stations are staying for now so no amount of complaining about it will change that.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #509
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,141 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Former Former Former wrote: »
    I think it's far more likely that people would be giving out that RTE was using public money to trample all over private competitors, no diversity in the media, etc etc.


    probably, but in fairness they would come out with that one whatever service rte would propose.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #510
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Give Barry Lang the vacant Afternoon / Drivetime slot on Gold !!


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  • #511
    Cube98
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Cube98


    end of the road wrote: »
    not really, the audiences for such stations are unlikely to be discussing them on here.


    in fact i would say those discussing gold on here are the minority of the audience.
    either way the digital stations are staying for now so no amount of complaining about it will change that.

    RTE can't close or open any stations without getting the ministers permission and such things can drag on for years. Incidentally, i wonder why they didn't do a country music station when they were setting up their dab stations, The 3 cities that had dab don't have country music on FM.


  • #512
    Cube98
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Cube98


    ford fiesta wrote: »
    Give Barry Lang the vacant Afternoon / Drivetime slot on Gold !!

    Would he work for €20 per day? (The rate non staff are paid for the dab stations last I heard)


  • #513
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    just thinking about the public service aspect. I would have to say that i think the service in the morning is quite worth it as an alternative to the commerical stations and rte's fm stations


  • #514
    doc22
    Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭doc22


    channelsurfer2 wrote: »
    just thinking about the public service aspect. I would have to say that i think the service in the morning is quite worth it as an alternative to the commerical stations and rte's fm stations

    I'd disagree, if RTE are as in bad a shape as they make out to be then the have no business in a Golden Oldies type station and it should be left up to commercial stations to fill that gap. Much like 2fm which I don't think should be subsidized either(although it was a cash cow at one stage)


  • #515
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,141 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    doc22 wrote: »
    I'd disagree, if RTE are as in bad a shape as they make out to be then the have no business in a Golden Oldies type station and it should be left up to commercial stations to fill that gap. Much like 2fm which I don't think should be subsidized either(although it was a cash cow at one stage)

    they have every business in it as their varient of it will be without adds and fake banter which equates to the previous poster's point, that it would still have a ps remit.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #516
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    RTÉ IMO should possibly sell of RTÉ2 and 2fm and its mix of digital stations, with the BAI providing the owners with clear remits for the extra digital stations. (Whole other argument).

    RTÉ GOLD IMO should be a mix of music and old programmes, this happened on this day 20 years, 30 years ago .... 100 years. This would possible take from the non-stop music, but they are a public service broadcaster.

    As I said before if RTÉ are to drop any of its channels or stations they will need to make a proposal to the Minister, its not just a case of them being allowed drop channels like they did with DAB. They are stuck with the services they currently run on Broadcast until they make a proposal.

    If they do decide to drop make a proposal then the BAI should be told to issue new independent licenses to take over from those stations.


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  • #517
    Expunge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭Expunge


    end of the road wrote: »
    they have every business in it as their varient of it will be without adds and fake banter which equates to the previous poster's point, that it would still have a ps remit.

    Unfortunately, that's not the reality. Here are some of the artists played on Lyric FM between 7 and 10 this very morning (according to rte.ie)

    Jamie Cullum; Neil Diamond; Gallagher and Lyle; Ray Stevens; Luka Bloom; Sammy Davis Jnr; Mark Knopfler; Babby McFerrin; Matthews Southern Comfort; Val Doonican; Bobby Darin; Carmel McCreagh; Bing Crosby; Sean Keane; Al Jolson

    I reckon that's more than half of today's playlist. This from RTE's Classical and specialist music service!

    A lot of RTE's music radio offering is a hot mess. It seems to me there is little justification for a staffed online Gold music service in these circumstances. There may be a justification for a cheaper, automated version.


  • #518
    Glaceon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    The commercial sector isn't showing much interest in playing a varied mix of music over the last 60 years. Looking at national and quasi-national stations, Today FM is effectively a youth station now and even Classic Hits is mostly restricted to 1980-2009. RTE Gold fills that void for a lot of people.
    Expunge wrote: »
    Unfortunately, that's not the reality. Here are some of the artists played on Lyric FM between 7 and 10 this very morning (according to rte.ie)

    Jamie Cullum; Neil Diamond; Gallagher and Lyle; Ray Stevens; Luka Bloom; Sammy Davis Jnr; Mark Knopfler; Babby McFerrin; Matthews Southern Comfort; Val Doonican; Bobby Darin; Carmel McCreagh; Bing Crosby; Sean Keane; Al Jolson

    I reckon that's more than half of today's playlist. This from RTE's Classical and specialist music service!

    A lot of RTE's music radio offering is a hot mess. It seems to me there is little justification for a staffed online Gold music service in these circumstances. There may be a justification for a cheaper, automated version.
    Rather than suggesting getting rid of Gold, I'd be arguing that these artists shouldn't be played on Lyric at all. If Gold was more widely available I'd even suggest moving Marty Whelan to it. I'm not that interested in an automated playlist service though, because it's not much better than Spotify. I like hearing someone on the other end.


  • #519
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Rick O'Shea is great on RTE Gold.....nothing like him at that time of day over on FM.
    Request anything, he'll play it.


  • #520
    Mickey Mike
    Registered Users Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Mickey Mike


    Its my first time hearing a news bulletin on RTE Gold at 9am this morning, got an update on covid etc. could this be the start of having it like a fm channel.


  • #521
    Mickey Mike
    Registered Users Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Mickey Mike


    A little off topic, wouldn't you think RTE would swap around RnaG and Lyric fm on the FM band, so its like the Sky and Saorview platforms.


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  • #522
    Brian CivilEng
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭Brian CivilEng


    I noticed that news bulletin this morning. Thought the radio had been changed to a different channel. I didn't like it.


  • #523
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    ford fiesta wrote: »
    Rick O'Shea is great on RTE Gold.....nothing like him at that time of day over on FM.
    Request anything, he'll play it.


    this is my point re public service remit - no waffle no 100 songs on autoplay with the same sounding Dj's like most of the commerical stations(and 2fm).. I would consider that 2fm if any of the stations should be the first to close given the availability of commerical stations that play the same remit(spin, beat, iradio etc). There is no way you will get a dj on a commercial station playing what rick does for 3 hours in prime morning without commericals.


  • #524
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    Mickey Mike wrote: »
    Its my first time hearing a news bulletin on RTE Gold at 9am this morning, got an update on covid etc. could this be the start of having it like a fm channel.


    I think that was Will just reading out the news for 30 seconds rather than an actual journalist. havent heard it before though..


  • #525
    alzer100
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    channelsurfer2 wrote: »
    I think that was Will just reading out the news for 30 seconds rather than an actual journalist. havent heard it before though..

    If it's Will Leahy reading our the news headlines at the top of the hour, well that's part of the normal breakfast show format as this has been the norm since he started breakfast on RTE Gold.


  • #526
    Brian CivilEng
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭Brian CivilEng


    Will usually just reads the headlines but this morning there were audio clips to go with the stories. It felt more bulletin like than normal, enough to make me notice it.


  • #527
    Mickey Mike
    Registered Users Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Mickey Mike


    Just wondering, have the DAB signal been switched off today, I have not heard any news article of any kind about it, sad that RTE did nothing to advertise, promote or push the format, but its gone now I think and we'll have to forget about it.


  • #528
    Declan A Walsh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Mickey Mike wrote: »
    Just wondering, have the DAB signal been switched off today, I have not heard any news article of any kind about it, sad that RTE did nothing to advertise, promote or push the format, but its gone now I think and we'll have to forget about it.

    Yes is the answer. It was discussed on the following thread:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058164980&page=15

    RTE Gold is still broadcasting online and on digital tv platforms.
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #529
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    I notice over the past few weeks, RTE Radio 1 News at 1am and then the final hour of Late Date cuts into RTE Gold at 1am (right now). This is one hour before the usual RTE R1/ Gold through the night simulcast at 2am.
    But is this 1am 'simulcast' supposed to happen?


  • #530
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,154 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Really enjoying the bank holiday 80s one hit wonders today

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #531
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Really enjoying the bank holiday 80s one hit wonders today

    Like a lot of One Hit Wonder lists / Charts around, many are not One Hit Wonder artists !!!


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  • #532
    alzer100
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    ford fiesta wrote: »
    Like a lot of One Hit Wonder lists / Charts around, many are not One Hit Wonder artists !!!

    You will probably find that some artists will have had some more hits in the US.


  • #533
    alzer100
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    ford fiesta wrote: »
    I notice over the past few weeks, RTE Radio 1 News at 1am and then the final hour of Late Date cuts into RTE Gold at 1am (right now). This is one hour before the usual RTE R1/ Gold through the night simulcast at 2am.
    But is this 1am 'simulcast' supposed to happen?

    Wouldn't at all be surprised if it has something to do with daylight savings time as RTE Gold is so automated that they could have made an error in programming the station and haven't copped it yet!


  • #534
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    alzer100 wrote: »
    You will probably find that some artists will have had some more hits in the US.

    Swing Out Sister "Breakout" was played as a One Hit Wonder today.
    This band went on to have at least 5 other well known hits in the Irish/UK charts.


  • #535
    Bateman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭Bateman


    Great show today, I'd say the list provoked a few arguments alright


  • #536
    deise man
    Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭deise man


    Was listening on the app. Enjoyable chart. You'd wonder if gold would get more listeners than lyric if it was on fm


  • #537
    waxmelts2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭waxmelts2000


    I really enjoyed it also, I was wrong in my guess for the number 1 spot though


  • #538
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    enjoyed it too. bought myself one of those fm transmitters things for the car in argos for 18euro that works through the phone. Its like going back to the old days of the cassette model for those of you"young" enough to remember having to to that!


  • #539
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,805 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    deise man wrote: »
    Was listening on the app. Enjoyable chart. You'd wonder if gold would get more listeners than lyric if it was on fm

    I'd say so.


  • #540
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,154 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I really like the Saturday 5pm slot "From ABC to XTC" focusing on new wave and post punk. Lots of tracks rarely heard and interesting versions of more well known tunes e.g. finishing now with a live vesion of Talking Heads Burning Down the House.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #541
    alzer100
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    I really like the Saturday 5pm slot "From ABC to XTC" focusing on new wave and post punk. Lots of tracks rarely heard and interesting versions of more well known tunes e.g. finishing now with a live vesion of Talking Heads Burning Down the House.

    Agreed, I would like to see them extend that show to 2 hours and have it run to 7pm but personally would prefer to have it go out on a Sunday and have The Golden Years run for 2 hours on Saturday 5-7pm. I think 1 hour is quite short for both shows. I would also prefer to see Mickey Mac back to the old slot on Saturday playing those classic dance tracks. I think it was 3-5pm or 4-6pm?
    That's. what I would do if I were Aidan Leonard or whoever is actually in charge of programming the station.


  • #542
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,154 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    alzer100 wrote: »
    Agreed, I would like to see them extend that show to 2 hours and have it run to 7pm but personally would prefer to have it go out on a Sunday and have The Golden Years run for 2 hours on Saturday 5-7pm. I think 1 hour is quite short for both shows. I would also prefer to see Mickey Mac back to the old slot on Saturday playing those classic dance tracks. I think it was 3-5pm or 4-6pm?
    That's. what I would do if I were Aidan Leonard or whoever is actually in charge of programming the station.

    We must be on different schedules in terms of how we listen :)

    I actually like that it is one hour... I would find it hard to fit in 2 hours listening at that time and I listen 'live' through the TV rather than a recording.
    Dalys 80s used to go out in that 5pm Saturday slot and I liked that at 1 hour also.

    I'd like to see it repeated though, a lot of people listen live to RTE Gold and I think a few catch up slots over the week for ABC to XTC show would make sense.

    Hmm... is the presenter of the show John Connolly the author John Connolly?
    I think I've read some of his books...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #543
    Declan A Walsh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    alzer100 wrote: »
    Agreed, I would like to see them extend that show to 2 hours and have it run to 7pm but personally would prefer to have it go out on a Sunday and have The Golden Years run for 2 hours on Saturday 5-7pm. I think 1 hour is quite short for both shows. I would also prefer to see Mickey Mac back to the old slot on Saturday playing those classic dance tracks. I think it was 3-5pm or 4-6pm?
    That's. what I would do if I were Aidan Leonard or whoever is actually in charge of programming the station.

    Did Mickey Mac, aka Michael McNamara , have a slot previously on Saturday afternoons playing dance classics on RTE Gold? That does not sound like RTE Gold's style at all. Might be more plausible for RTE Pulse. If you referring to his old dance show on 2FM, that was Saturday nights. If you mean his old afternoon show on Saturday afternoons on 2FM, or RTE Radio 2 as it was then, that was golden oldies - not dance music - and he was known as Michael McNamara then!
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #544
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,154 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Declan A Walsh wrote: »
    Did Mickey Mac, aka Michael McNamara , have a slot previously on Saturday afternoons playing dance classics on RTE Gold? That does not sound like RTE Gold's style at all. Might be more plausible for RTE Pulse. If you referring to his old dance show on 2FM, that was Saturday nights. If you mean his old afternoon show on Saturday afternoons on 2FM, or RTE Radio 2 as it was then, that was golden oldies - not dance music - and he was known as Michael McNamara then!

    I remember he had a Saturday late afternoon \ early evening slot on RTE Gold, after Daly 80s finished.

    More info here on his career:
    http://www.limerickcity.ie/media/mus1133.pdf

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #545
    alzer100
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Declan A Walsh wrote: »
    Did Mickey Mac, aka Michael McNamara , have a slot previously on Saturday afternoons playing dance classics on RTE Gold? That does not sound like RTE Gold's style at all. Might be more plausible for RTE Pulse. If you referring to his old dance show on 2FM, that was Saturday nights. If you mean his old afternoon show on Saturday afternoons on 2FM, or RTE Radio 2 as it was then, that was golden oldies - not dance music - and he was known as Michael McNamara then!

    When I say "dance classics", I mean that very loosely as it was very mainstream but yes he did have a Saturday afternoon/evening slot on RTE Gold before they stopped weekend presenter programming in December 2019.


  • #546
    alzer100
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    I know it's probably a discussion for another forum but I can't help thinking that this time 40 years ago, Dublin radio had NoVa idea for what was about to hit it in June of that year!!!

    I think I got the month right???


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  • #547
    AwaitYourReply
    Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    alzer100 wrote: »
    When I say "dance classics", I mean that very loosely as it was very mainstream but yes he did have a Saturday afternoon/evening slot on RTE Gold before they stopped weekend presenter programming in December 2019.

    Yeah I used remember Michael McNamara on Saturday & Sunday afternoons on Radio 2 back around mid '80's. Micky Mac had the 2FM Dance Show on Saturday nights during mid-late 90's and perhaps longer? I also recall Micky Mac doing a short-lived stint on RTÉ Gold in recent years. I think Micky Mac is the father of sports commentator, Conor MacNamara who works for BBC Radio 5 Live and who also does work for sports coverage on Virgin Media Television here in Ireland. He had worked at TV3 Ireland in it's early days.


  • #548
    its_steve116
    Registered Users Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    AwaitYourReply wrote: »
    Yeah I used remember Michael McNamara on Saturday & Sunday afternoons on Radio 2 back around mid '80's. Micky Mac had the 2FM Dance Show on Saturday nights during mid-late 90's and perhaps longer? I also recall Micky Mac doing a short-lived stint on RTÉ Gold in recent years. I think Micky Mac is the father of sports commentator, Conor MacNamara who works for BBC Radio 5 Live and who also does work for sports coverage on Virgin Media Television here in Ireland. He had worked at TV3 Ireland in it's early days.
    And Conor Irwin (ex-Radio Nova) is the son of Robbie Irwin IIRC.


  • #549
    RINO87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭RINO87


    Mickey Macs old show on Gold, before the cull of weekend staff was a sort of Disco/Popular dance classic type job I think


  • #550
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    RINO87 wrote: »
    Mickey Macs old show on Gold, before the cull of weekend staff was a sort of Disco/Popular dance classic type job I think

    No.. Micky had moved to a Saturday 4pm to 6pm slot, a general oldies show, before the removal of weekend Gold programmes.

    His shows on Gold before then were dance classics programmes on various times on Saturday evenings and Sunday afternoons

    Now he is "Living in the 70s" on Saturdays at 9am. A show previously presented by Lorcan Murray.


  • #551
    alzer100
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    I wasn't aware that they had turned his show into a general RTE Gold programming slot "with a presenter". Any time I had listened to his show on a Saturday 4-6pm, he always seemed to play or lean towards playing mainstream dance/club/disco type music along with the general classic oldies, but look I am not an authority on dance/club music and I also wasn't listening to his show that much on the run-up to December 2019.


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