Clongriffin - Parkedge

gogreen81 · 16-11-2015 8:50pm

Oppybar wrote:

G - I have signed it with a couple of amendments. I got legal advice on it - some risk, but I had finished snagging and practically I wanted to start work and avoid coming up against builders holidays at the end of the month. I am also not hearing anything about completion from KF or through my solicitor, so I am not optimistic on that front - hopefully I'm wrong though!

Just picking up some random reply as there were many threads on the snags and builder delays
My friend is stuck with the the same situation. His house was supposed to be be completed this week and. It the builder says they have now applied for registration to the council. My question is what's are the steps builder has to ensure before handing the keys.
1 snag list
2 register county council for completion
3 ber
4 land registry.
Anything else you can think of as I will ask him to contact solicitor to get the status on these 4 items or more.. In case the builder brings up some new excuse
He wants to move by or before Christmas

gogreen81 · 16-11-2015 8:55pm

gogreen81 wrote:

there were many threads on the snags and builder delays
My friend is stuck with the the same situation. His house was supposed to be be completed this week and. It the builder says they have now applied for registration to the council. My question is what's are the steps builder has to ensure before handing the keys.
1 snag list
2 register county council for completion
3 ber
4 land registry.
Anything else you can think of as I will ask him to contact solicitor to get the status on these 4 items or more.. In case the builder brings up some new excuse
He wants to move by or before Christmas

random thread new ant edit tc any edit the last post. By random thread means random response from this thread... As ppl were discussing about the delays on builder. And talking to my friend . His situation is the same. As most of u described. So looking for more information on the steps needs to be taken by builder before keys are handed. The agent as someone said is a poor customer experience at the time of completion. They are only good in selling

Nanazolie · 17-11-2015 1:11pm

To those who asked to be notified: the next forum will take place on Tuesday 24/11 at 8pm in the Clongriffin Hub, Unit 60, Main Street (just beside the barber's)

Safer Belmayne / Clongriffin Forum

Tuesday 24th November 2015, 8pm

Clongriffin Hub (Shop Unit 60) Main St. Clongriffin

Expected duration 60 minutes.

AGENDA

Incorporating minutes of meeting 29 September 2015

Environmental issues :

New builds – Belmayne and Clongriffin
Coffee shop- Dart station
Priory Hall update
Taking-in-charge
Belmayne town centre site –review
Planning applications
Waste management: local feedback on i) anti-dog fouling initiative and ii) local graffiti black spots.

Transport

Including :i) Belmayne Boulevard, & ii) Pedestrian lights – Clarehall Avenue

Garda Update on Local Issues.

General Area Updates.- Developers Report

Any Other Business.

Date of next meeting

Gumbo · 17-11-2015 1:23pm

gogreen81 wrote: »

Just picking up some random reply as there were many threads on the snags and builder delays
My friend is stuck with the the same situation. His house was supposed to be be completed this week and. It the builder says they have now applied for registration to the council. My question is what's are the steps builder has to ensure before handing the keys.
1 snag list
2 register county council for completion
3 ber
4 land registry.
Anything else you can think of as I will ask him to contact solicitor to get the status on these 4 items or more.. In case the builder brings up some new excuse
He wants to move by or before Christmas

Parkedge has been complete for a few months now. No new registrations or completions are due.

blackbelted · 18-01-2016 1:25pm

Wondering, did anybody end up buying or moving into Belltree?

I am at the stage of putting deposit to Parkside which ticks all my preferences so far. However I have seen belltree houses online right after and I am going to see the show houses at the weekend. Price wise, its cheaper than Parkside, and the floor plans looks very similar to Parkside.

Also another question, why the road from Belltree to Belmayne ETS is closed?

Gumbo · 19-01-2016 5:41pm

blackbelted wrote: »

Wondering, did anybody end up buying or moving into Belltree?

I am at the stage of putting deposit to Parkside which ticks all my preferences so far. However I have seen belltree houses online right after and I am going to see the show houses at the weekend. Price wise, its cheaper than Parkside, and the floor plans looks very similar to Parkside.

Also another question, why the road from Belltree to Belmayne ETS is closed?

Belltree are not complete yet and thus nobody can be living in the site.
I believe many units are sold but no completion certificates have been lodged to allow occupation yet.

In Parkside there is only one house not sold so I presume you are thinking of buying that one out on its own??

If it was me I would buy the Parkside one. I think it looks better and I think the particular plot of that house is very nice.

Sono · 28-01-2016 8:56am

Quick question about Belltree, I see they are advertising detached houses, is this a mistake? I only saw terrace houses when I was there a few months ago.

Gumbo · 28-01-2016 10:18am

Sono wrote: »

Quick question about Belltree, I see they are advertising detached houses, is this a mistake? I only saw terrace houses when I was there a few months ago.

Mostly terraced, at least one detached in phase 1. Not so sure about the rest of the phases.

Sono · 28-01-2016 10:28am

kceire wrote: »

Mostly terraced, at least one detached in phase 1. Not so sure about the rest of the phases.

Thanks for that, is there many houses complete now do you know? Might go back for another look this weekend if they are selling detached houses for 275

blackbelted · 28-01-2016 11:01am

Sono wrote: »

Thanks for that, is there many houses complete now do you know? Might go back for another look this weekend if they are selling detached houses for 275

Detached houses are not for 275k. this is the price for 3 bed terraced house.

Sono · 28-01-2016 11:14am

blackbelted wrote: »

Detached houses are not for 275k. this is the price for 3 bed terraced house.

Wrongly advertised, they are going to rectify this on the system.

2nd phase due to be complete in August/September. 295 for an end of terrace 3 bed is extremely pricey, they want 280 for a mid terrace with a 3 bed with 1 parking space, bloody rip off

Gumbo · 28-01-2016 12:01pm

Sono wrote: »

Thanks for that, is there many houses complete now do you know? Might go back for another look this weekend if they are selling detached houses for 275

Only 4 complete at the moment as show houses. No official completions at all so at this moment in time nobody can buy/move into one.

They are commencing on the next phase shortly, so they may lodge Completion Certificates for the whole of Phase 1 together, that's what they done for Parkedge.

Volthar · 31-01-2016 9:19am

blackbelted wrote:

Wondering, did anybody end up buying or moving into Belltree?

I bought one in the previous stage, parkedge. I would prefer the Parkside as it is located near schools and stone's throw from Clarehall sc. At the same time clongriffin has the dart. Designwise they seem similar but personally I do not like the white window frames in Parkside. It is personal pref though.

Blinkeyblue · 02-02-2016 4:00pm

Welcome to the Irish housing market. A country where a mouldy shoe box is sold for mad money....

Blinkeyblue · 02-02-2016 4:06pm

I actually find Belltree good value for money so decided to put deposit down on one of those. Been looking for over a year for a house and Belltree seem to be only new estate that wasn't insanely overpriced. Haven't looked at parkside as I don't see a point paying more than 300K for a terraced house

Gumbo · 02-02-2016 7:10pm

Blinkeyblue wrote: »

Welcome to the Irish housing market. A country where a mouldy shoe box is sold for mad money....

Have you got evidence to support your claim or is it just a minor rant on the dart home......

uli84 · 02-02-2016 10:27pm

Ah i remember going to Phase 1 showhouse of Parkedge, i think they were priced about right then but I didn't buy, regret a bit as the park is lovely:) houses pretty overpriced now but still acceptable to most

Nika Bolokov · 02-02-2016 11:30pm

Only thing about the park is will it be so lovely to be near in 12 years when all of a sudden the area has 10,000 teenagers

Gumbo · 02-02-2016 11:32pm

Nika Bolokov wrote: »

Only thing about the park is will it be so lovely to be near in 12 years when all of a sudden the area has 10,000 teenagers

Name any area in Dublin that doesn't have that problem.

Nika Bolokov · 02-02-2016 11:34pm

Can't think of one as high density.

Older areas have been through it so you won't end up stuck beside it.

Sono · 03-02-2016 12:02am

kceire wrote: »

Name any area in Dublin that doesn't have that problem.

Very defensive of any comments people make about the area that aren't so positive.

I'm sure the area will be fine and it's got decent amenities such as the dart station and m50 close by, could definitely do with a pub though.

Volthar · 03-02-2016 1:39pm

Sono wrote:

I'm sure the area will be fine and it's got decent amenities such as the dart station and m50 close by, could definitely do with a pub though.

A pub, shopping center, proper gym, gp practise, a primary school, better traffic control at the donaghmede roundabout...
I heard all these are somewhere in the pipeline.

Volthar · 03-02-2016 1:41pm

kceire wrote:

Have you got evidence to support your claim or is it just a minor rant on the dart home......

He probably meant small old houses that are in a bad shape yet because they are in a good post code cost 500k+

Nanazolie · 03-02-2016 1:56pm

Volthar wrote: »

A pub, shopping center, proper gym, gp practise, a primary school, better traffic control at the donaghmede roundabout...
I heard all these are somewhere in the pipeline.

There is a pub in the Trinity Sport Club, I think.
The shopping centre might happen when the area gets more and more potential customers. In just 2 weeks we have had the pharmacy and a beauty salon opening. The medical centre is worked on

Better traffic control will happen when the Hole in the Road bypass is built (still in progress of approval), and in a nearer future when the Priory Hall road opens. Also when the road in The Coast estate that links the Baldoyle entrance to the estuary entrance will be opened, people won't have to go around, it will certainly alleviate the traffic further.
Primary schools: there are 2 in Belmayne, albeit stretched to the limits now. The permanent buildings *maybe* completed by 2018. I was told by DCC during the last meeting that more schools, above all a secondary one, would be an option if the next census reveals an increase in the younger population. The last one apparently still showed a majority of older people

Re. the park, the teenagers haven't waited 12 years. There have been issues with gangs of teenagers coming with the dart and heading to the park. Having said that, because the park is surrounded by apartment blocks and houses, people are very quick to call the gardai, who in turn are very quick to show up and clear them in no time. It has never been a major issue really

Gumbo · 03-02-2016 6:13pm

Sono wrote: »

Very defensive of any comments people make about the area that aren't so positive.

I'm sure the area will be fine and it's got decent amenities such as the dart station and m50 close by, could definitely do with a pub though.

I'm defensive about non truths and half arse opinions to be fair. I live nowhere near the place, but I do know the area well.

Facts are facts and i can't dispute them but when someone posts BS surely one can call them on it?

Blinkeyblue · 04-02-2016 12:00am

kceire wrote: »

Have you got evidence to support your claim or is it just a minor rant on the dart home......

Sorry no evidence that's scholarly supported I'm afraid. However, I can invite you to have a wee look on the main websites like myhome.ie where you will find many tiny old damp houses going for mad money.

Gumbo · 04-02-2016 1:21pm

Blinkeyblue wrote: »

Sorry no evidence that's scholarly supported I'm afraid. However, I can invite you to have a wee look on the main websites like myhome.ie where you will find many tiny old damp houses going for mad money.

And its relevance to a thread about brand new, spacious, A Rated homes?

Heisenberg. · 04-02-2016 1:40pm

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mel123 · 04-02-2016 2:06pm

Heisenberg. wrote: »

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I would be tempted (if my current sale agreed falls through), but i just dont think these will hold their value.
When they first went on sale were they also that price or have they gone up?

Gumbo · 04-02-2016 2:52pm

Commencement Notice lodged for the next phase. 35 further houses to be started in the next 2 weeks.

This will bring Belltree up to 75 houses under construction, with one more further phase to commence after that AFAIK.

Blinkeyblue · 05-02-2016 12:01am

kceire wrote: »

And its relevance to a thread about brand new, spacious, A Rated homes?

No relevance whatsoever. Just trying to make a point to someone else stating that Belltree would be a 'rip off', when it's actually the exact opposite. Brand new A rated homes for under 300K. Best value around at the moment in my opinion, compared to other houses I viewed ( and I went to many viewings).....

Solasgeal · 12-02-2016 9:02pm

Bit off topic but anyone know the name of the new beauty salon in clongriffin? Thanks

Gumbo · 12-02-2016 9:31pm

Solasgeal wrote: »

Bit off topic but anyone know the name of the new beauty salon in clongriffin? Thanks

Have you checked Facebook. Usually they pop up with a page there first.

Solasgeal · 12-02-2016 9:53pm

kceire wrote: »

Have you checked Facebook. Usually they pop up with a page there first.

Yeh I've checked thanks, can't find anything

akesha · 13-02-2016 9:24am

It is Lana's beauty.

I was wondering myself the other day, is there any hairdresser for women around? I thought that beauty salon could do hair, but I checked the facebook page and apparently not

Nanazolie · 15-02-2016 3:40pm

akesha wrote: »

It is Lana's beauty.

I was wondering myself the other day, is there any hairdresser for women around? I thought that beauty salon could do hair, but I checked the facebook page and apparently not

REVV Barbers does women's hair too. The lady, Victorja, is lovely and very skilled. She has a seat especially for the women. Be careful, she is highly demanded and is often fully booked. I get my hair done there, always get compliments

Volthar · 22-02-2016 5:27pm

Has anyone in Parkedge had any build/finish quality issues that only came to light recently? How were these addressed by Rathowen?

soirish · 12-03-2016 10:30pm

kceire wrote: »

Commencement Notice lodged for the next phase. 35 further houses to be started in the next 2 weeks.

This will bring Belltree up to 75 houses under construction, with one more further phase to commence after that AFAIK.

Belltree is supposed to be 150 units why just one more phase if they are half way into the job?

Gumbo · 12-03-2016 11:32pm

soirish wrote: »

Belltree is supposed to be 150 units why just one more phase if they are half way into the job?

Not 150 house. 100-110 units IIRC.
They are more than half way into the job in fairness. There is only one more large site on the northern end to commence.

NewtoD13 · 15-03-2016 10:34am

Hi everyone, we are also looking at the Belltree houses, they seem good value, I really like the type E. I am new to the area and also to property buying, so I will be very grateful if people who are living there or buying there right now can help.
1. Judging by the map, the DART is walking distance from Belltree houses, how long does it take you?
2. Our kid is starting primary school in 2018, I assume we are late for the Educate Together and there is a huge waiting list already, what other good schools in the area would you recommend, so we can apply as soon as we decide on the house?
3. Bathrooms - it says they come fully tiled, but does that include the bath, sink, toilet or you are getting just empty tiled space?
4. It seems that upc/virgin are not there yet

, do you think this is just a matter of time? Does Eir use fiber or the adsl connection?
5. Is Father Collins park closed during the night?
Thanks a million!

Nanazolie · 15-03-2016 11:06am

NewtoD13 wrote: »

Hi everyone, we are also looking at the Belltree houses, they seem good value, I really like the type E. I am new to the area and also to property buying, so I will be very grateful if people who are living there or buying there right now can help.
1. Judging by the map, the DART is walking distance from Belltree houses, how long does it take you? No more than 8 minutes, if you walk leisurely
2. Our kid is starting primary school in 2018, I assume we are late for the Educate Together and there is a huge waiting list already, what other good schools in the area would you recommend, so we can apply as soon as we decide on the house? Yes, sorry, ETNS is full and has waiting lists up to 2020. St Francis are on the same ground and may not be as full. There are other schools in Donaghmede which are very good too. Further up is Bayside that also has an excellent reputation
3. Bathrooms - it says they come fully tiled, but does that include the bath, sink, toilet or you are getting just empty tiled space?
4. It seems that upc/virgin are not there yet , do you think this is just a matter of time? Does Eir use fiber or the adsl connection? We use Magnet and are quite happy with them. Maybe there are other providers
5. Is Father Collins park closed during the night? yes, although people just skip the low barriers to take a late night run or walk.
Thanks a million!

Answers in your quote

Gumbo · 15-03-2016 11:58am

NewtoD13 wrote: »

3. Bathrooms - it says they come fully tiled, but does that include the bath, sink, toilet or you are getting just empty tiled space?

Bathrooms fully tiled with sanitary ware included including sink, toilet and shower tray. Not sure about shower doors though.

Dub13 · 15-03-2016 9:01pm

On schools, don't forget to have a look at the schools in Baldoyle my kids are in them and I have to say they are great schools.

NewtoD13 · 16-03-2016 10:03am

Thanks everyone! I see St. Laurence's National School in Baldoyle and the boys/girls St.Mary and St.Peter and Paul. Which school in Donaghmede would you recommend?
I pulled the planning permission plan for Belltree and I see there is a school planned just next to the estate. Don't know if this was granted but it would be great.

Also for those of you who have kids to be enrolled in to secondary school in 2017, Educate Together are applying for a new secondary schools in Malahide-Portmarnock and Swords . They need parents who are interested to fill form, to be used for their application <SNIP>

gavinmcg20 · 16-03-2016 1:47pm

Does anyone know what the price range is for the various types of houses in the new development. Original add said 260,000-340,000; but now it just lists From: 270,000??

NewtoD13 · 16-03-2016 3:31pm

Starting at 280k now, not sure about the top end.

NewtoD13 · 20-03-2016 8:46am

Hi everyone, I read previous posts that the Islamic Cultural Center is a no go, however I wonder did the builder announced that officially, not verbally in a meeting, but in the press or written down or anything that keeps him liable?

I looked at the permission plan on the Dublin council website (3325/12) and there is an absolutely valid permission from 2013. As far as I know permissions are for minimum of 5 years, hence enough time left to commence the building of the Islamic Center. The Center is huge: mosque, créche, bookshop, library, mortuary, conference centre, restaurant, banquet hall, primary school and secondary school, community hall, fitness centre...
I am quite concerned about the traffic that the center will create as Belltree is exactly next to it.

So I wonder, those of you living in the area or buying in Belltree - did you do some further research on that and did you speak with the builder on his future plans?

Thank you

Gumbo · 20-03-2016 10:42am

The developer himself told me he was not building it due to a reversal of funding.
Nothing on paper though.

Blinkeyblue · 21-03-2016 10:46pm

Could anybody tell me how much it was to do the snagging? And by whom did you get it done, any recommendations? Did you get a chartered surveyor for that?

zarker · 23-03-2016 10:39am

I've done the snagging myself. I went room to room thoroughly looking at any defects and noting the down.

I've been in the house for 1.5 years and nothing significant came up that I believe should've been flagged in the snag list.

Clongriffin - Parkedge

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