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07-04-2021, 16:30   #3556
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Half of it is.

But my bet is that the county residents who work in Parkmore mainly live in Claregalway, Oranmore, Athenry, Tuam, Headford, and places in between.
Your bet would be very safe.

Area wise West Galway Connemara might be close to half the size , but population wise only 1/4 of the County. No of Cllrs is a good yard stick. They have 9/39 Cllrs v's 30/39 for North, South and East Co. Galway
http://www.galway.ie/en/services/yourcouncil/cllrs/
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The following was uploaded just last month on National Transport dot ie https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-...-Framework.pdf

1.1 Where are Parkmore Area Commuters coming from? 38% of Parkmore Area employees live in Galway City, with the majority of these living between the Corrib River and the Parkmore Area (see Figure 3). 54% of Parkmore Area employees come from across Galway County. The remaining 8% of Parkmore Area employees commute to the area from outside of Galway


So not a large no of commuters to Parkmore coming from West of the City. Twice as many coming from the city who are on east of the Corrib. It makes sense that people that can, would choose to live nearer their place of employment. The County figure is what focus needs to be on for Parkmore
Thanks for sharing that doc. It fairly effectively eviscerates all the measures done up to now which have pretty much just been geared towards the private car user. I think its safe to say, based on this, that any further money going towards that area will need to reprioritize as per the sustainable mobility pyramid. Page 17 of that report is pretty damning in its summary of the current situation

Its interesting to note that it covers all of the following and not just Parkmore
  • Parkmore East,
  • Parkmore West;
  • Galway Technology Park;
  • Ballybrit Business Park;
  • Ballybane Industrial Estate; and
  • Briarhill Business Park

Some things to note from reviewing it
  • Only 12% of people working in the above are crossing the river from inside the city, or 1,650 people. This just re-emphasizes the farce that is the ring road proposal.
  • Approximately 15% of trips to the study area originate within 500m walking distance of an existing direct bus service stop. If cross-city routes and transfers are taken into account this increases to an estimated 25% of trips
  • Bus patronage in Galway has continued to grow, increasing by 23.5% between 2013 and 2018 (NTA Bus and Rail Statistics, 2019). Bus patronage increased by a further 21.6% in a single calendar year from 2018 to 2019. This growth is primarily due to the provision of increased frequency of Bus Éireann services.
  • There is little to no measures taken to improve nus usage in the area (no lanes, bus stops in the middle of grass, few shelters (this may have changed in the last few months)
  • Doughiska has "high quality cycling infrastructure".....apparently
  • Galway City has the second highest rates of urban cycling in Ireland at 5.8%, (with Dublin being first at 7.6%).
  • For any that use it, the Merlin Park rat run is going the way of the Dodo expect for walking & cycling traffic

As to how they are looking to address it, I've listed some items below, however I will call out the medium term is listed as "Accelerate reconfiguration of the city’s roads and streets, in favour of sustainable transport modes, coupled to provision of tailored public transport services, and provision of Park and Ride arrangements."

Buses
  • Bus priority towards Parkmore Road for the existing key routes (405, 409);
  • Bus priority on Tuam Road for existing buses, and additional buses using Racecourse Road;
  • Southbound bus priority for buses departing the Parkmore Area along Parkmore Road;
  • Bus penetration into the Parkmore Area to reduce pedestrian walk times and the overall journey time; and
  • New bus stops / road crossings where pedestrian permeability has been provided through the various business estates

Park & Ride
Important note, they are clear without all of the bus measures listed above being implemented, a P&R service is unaffordable and unlikely to be a viable option

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The determination of the preferred Park and Ride site(s) will be completed in the short term, by the NTA Park and Ride Project Office.

However, a functioning Park and Ride will be dependent on completion of the Public Transport Interventions in section 5.1 above. Without these, bus services to / from the Park and Ride location will be delayed, with no competitive advantage over remaining in one’s car. To maintain frequency without these interventions, many buses would be required in the peak periods, making the service unaffordable.

Accordingly, while Park and Ride site design will be progressed as quickly as possible, their successful operation is contingent on the (prior) provision of bus priority infrastructure. Accordingly, while the procurement of a suitable site and the design/planning process can be undertaken in the short term, the construction and operation of Park and Ride will be a Medium Term project.
A P&R at either
  • the airport which will include bus priority measures along the R339 or
  • Expanding the parking at Oranmore Train station.
  • The decision of which will be done by the NTA's P&R Office.

Walking & Cycling
  • Completion if segregated cycling route west-east from SQR right up to the Parkmore Rd/Tuam Rd junction.
  • Improvements to the Briarhill / N6/ Monivea Junction, to provide better access to /from the Briarhill Underpass;
  • Permeability within the business parks, such that pedestrians and cyclists approach from the nearest entrance (whether Tuam Road, N6 or Parkmore Road) to reach their destination, during peak hours (including darkness);
  • Enhancement of existing facilities;
  • Improved junction design, with acceptable pedestrian and cycling provision, for both signalised and non-signalised junctions;
  • Continuity of footpath / cycle track along routes, including a shared cycle/pedestrian facility along the entirety of Parkmore Road from the Briarhill Underpass to the Parkmore Road roundabout and
  • The removal of rat running from Merlin Park Hospital will immediately provide a high quality 3.5km safe cycle route linking Renmore / Murrough to the Briarhill Underpass into the Parkmore Area.
  • Also: The provision of additional Public Bikes stations at Parkmore is feasible and desirable, but will depend on the identification of funding sources to offset the additional operational costs associated with such expansion.

There is a lot more in it. For a full list of all the proposals, read from pg 28 onwards. For such a small area they have put an awful lot into this. Granted they have included some items which are safe to say as being outside the scope e.g. the upgrades of Kirwan and Browne RAB's etc, but they have included them on the basis of the effect the upgrades will have for sustainable modes of transport.

There are 32 proposed actions for the short term, 7 for the medium term and 1 long term. The long term one is a complete redesign of Parkmore Rd, with full bike lanes, bus lanes etc.

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07-04-2021, 17:40   #3558
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So not a large no of commuters to Parkmore coming from West of the City.
Maybe not a large % but still a large number as the total numbers in Parkmore are big and you see some massive shifts flooding out at the same time.

There are definitely local road improvements to be made at Parkmore to address the bottlenecks in the short distance from Parkmore to the motorway.
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[*]Doughiska has "high quality cycling infrastructure".....apparently
that made me laugh as well
Galway City Council gave themselves a "D" rating for the Doughiska Cycle Paths in the GTS, but overall this doc shows they are heading in the right direction.
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That's worrying - Doughiska is often listed as one of the worst attempts at cycling infrastructure in the country!

And it's not even a lazy solution, a lot of work went into making it that bad.

https://twitter.com/IrishCycle/statu...090857481?s=20

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That's worrying - Doughiska is often listed as one of the worst attempts at cycling infrastructure in the country!

And it's not even a lazy solution, a lot of work went into making it that bad.

https://twitter.com/IrishCycle/statu...090857481?s=20
They were told at planning stage over a decade ago now that it was daft and poorly devised scheme by the Galway Cycling Campaign. It was ignored. It was a rushed at the time. Irony of course is that the Galway Transportation Study in 2016 (less than a decade after Doughiskka Road was built) - the Council gave themselves a D rating for the cycling infrastrucutre (a lower rating than the Service Duct paths, now called bike paths along the N6). A damning indictment really.
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https://twitter.com/mick_scott/statu...01173934292993

Maybe some bollards would fix it.
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Looks crap. Some nice flower boxes would be better.
Hope that's on the cards instead of orange sticks all over.
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Looks crap. Some nice flower boxes would be better.
Hope that's on the cards instead of orange sticks all over.
Thats the intention, agree a few flower boxes would seem a better spend of money but would require maintenance.....
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What problem was this solution trying to fix?
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What problem was this solution trying to fix?
People park in that gap all the time, can leave space fairly tight on both sides for passing cars. Those bollards look shocking though, who decided on the bollards??
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Its a temp solution, that whole area is going to be no parking in a year or two
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Its a temp solution, that whole area is going to be no parking in a year or two
Yep, under Bus Connects there is a very nice plaza planned for Woodquay.
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Its a temp solution, that whole area is going to be no parking in a year or two
A real kick in the teeth for local businesses
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A real kick in the teeth for local businesses
Why?

Surely a pedestrianised array would attract greater footfall, and thus help local businesses?
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