MotoGP 2019

pablo128 · 23-09-2019 7:01pm

It must be seriously demoralising when you get passed on the straight like you're going backwards. There's some motor in those Ducatis.

XsApollo · 23-09-2019 7:05pm

legrand wrote: »

Something about Aragon - probably the least exciting track to watch racing - made worse by MM sleep waking to victory.

Dunno if this applies any more? Lorenzo had a handful of 'days' in the Ducati last season and it's been a few years since he was leading the field otherwise (and sad to say - same for Rossi) . Reckon up to other young-fella's with right bike package to take the fight to MM. We may need to wait awhile yet however.

Well he was coming good on the Duc but had jumped ship , and his first season at Honda has been worse than the Ducati, he still has the speed if it comes right,
And I’m more thinking like that someone to challenge Marc when he isn’t having a bad day.
Lorenzo is the only one out there I think .

Infoanon · 23-09-2019 7:17pm

XsApollo wrote: »

legrand wrote: »

Lorenzo is the only one out there I think .

Fabio on the Yamaha and Pol on the KTM are showing their potential, while Dovi was outstanding on the Duke yesterday. Miller is getting better, while Rins and Mir can win on the Suzuki in the future.

Jorge can win again but not on a Honda.

CJhaughey · 04-10-2019 7:03am

Big Highside for Marquez in Buriram, bike looks mangled. MM was taken to the Medical centre for a checkup.
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The Nal · 04-10-2019 9:20am

CJhaughey wrote: »

Big Highside for Marquez in Buriram, bike looks mangled. MM was taken to the Medical centre for a checkup.

Seems hes ok. Just a few bumps and bruises.

Infoanon · 04-10-2019 11:12am

The Nal wrote: »

CJhaughey wrote: »

Big Highside for Marquez in Buriram, bike looks mangled. MM was taken to the Medical centre for a checkup.

Seems hes ok. Just a few bumps and bruises.

Fastest Honda in Q2 , MM will be sore tomorrow that was a big crash.

Rumours that Ducati have offered Fabio a lot of money to sign .
Zarco in talks to test for Yamaha - which is not a huge surprise

CJhaughey · 04-10-2019 1:49pm

Honda would be bolloxed if anything happens to MM.
He's the only rider capable of getting the best out of that machine.
Remind me again where the next best RCV is?

Infoanon · 04-10-2019 5:50pm

CJhaughey wrote: »

Honda would be bolloxed if anything happens to MM.
He's the only rider capable of getting the best out of that machine.
Remind me again where the next best RCV is?

Agree - you are looking at Ducati post Stoner of Marc misses races or changes teams ( KTM $$$)

Infoanon · 05-10-2019 10:26am

Watching the Honda in Thai quali and it looks awful - Keith and Hodgie highlighting its many failings as all but MM can control it.

Lorenzo and Cructhlow ,both competent winners , can't ride the bike.

Michael Laverty also highlighting the electronics on Cals bike are all over the place.

Infoanon · 05-10-2019 10:26am

Watching the Honda in Thai quali and it looks awful - Keith and Hodgie highlighting its many failings as all but MM can control it.

Lorenzo and Cructhlow ,both competent winners , can't ride the bike.

Michael Laverty also highlighting the electronics on Cals bike are all over the place.

Infoanon · 06-10-2019 5:51pm

Another last lap thriller - Moto 2 and 3 had a few incidents. ..

Talk about Lorenzo taking a year out seem to have ramped up - reading between the lines Jorge and Cal fear serious injury riding the bronco horse that is this year's Honda

pjohnson · 06-10-2019 6:51pm

Obviously Marc is exceptional on that bike but can Honda really not develop something else that will suit there other riders better?

legrand · 07-10-2019 9:59am

^^^
The differences are so marginal that a change to (say) the chassis could mean even MM would loose ½ a second a lap - for another rider that could translate to seconds a lap. Look at Lorenzo (even aside from the injuries he's carrying).
It's the holy grail for all manufacturers - man and machine.

Infoanon · 11-10-2019 2:29pm

Autosport reporting that Zarco is to substitute at LCR Honda for Nakagami for the last three races (ie after motegi) to allow the Japanese ride to have a shoulder operation.

The 2nd LCR ride is the only seat not yet confirmed for 2020.

pjohnson · 15-10-2019 4:46pm

Infoanon wrote: »

Autosport reporting that Zarco is to substitute at LCR Honda for Nakagami for the last three races (ie after motegi) to allow the Japanese ride to have a shoulder operation.

The 2nd LCR ride is the only seat not yet confirmed for 2020.

Nakagami has the LCR ride now. Confirmed to be out for the final 3 races.

pablo128 · 15-10-2019 4:57pm

Yamaha have poached a Ducati engineer. Apparently he knows the Marelli system inside out. I'll link later when I'm home.

pjohnson · 15-10-2019 5:58pm

Who has the 2nd KTM Factory bike in 2020?

Infoanon · 16-10-2019 12:01am

pjohnson wrote: »

Who has the 2nd KTM Factory bike in 2020?

Kallio is favourite but his form has been very poor since Zarco's dismissal.

Question marks remain over Lorenzos Honda ride in 2020 - Zarco's LCR cameo is seen as an audition for the HTC ride.

pablo128 · 16-10-2019 5:05pm

pablo128 wrote: »

Yamaha have poached a Ducati engineer. Apparently he knows the Marelli system inside out. I'll link later when I'm home.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/ducati-defection-latest-move-motogp-s-brains-war&ved=2ahUKEwju3ez2kqHlAhU2QhUIHRp1A0QQFjAAegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw1sTEaF74IERhGlS6-Ef90Z

The Nal · 21-10-2019 11:01am

Another snoozefest. Lorenzo needs to get out of there asap. As bad a fit as I've seen. I'm done with 2019 now. Roll on next season.

Infoanon · 21-10-2019 1:06pm

The Nal wrote: »

Another snoozefest. Lorenzo needs to get out of there asap. As bad a fit as I've seen. I'm done with 2019 now. Roll on next season.

With Philip Island this weekend, Moto 2 and Moto 3 champioships far from decided it might be worthwhile hanging all a little bit longer. ....

The Nal · 21-10-2019 1:38pm

Infoanon wrote: »

With Philip Island this weekend, Moto 2 and Moto 3 champioships far from decided it might be worthwhile hanging all a little bit longer. ....

Course yeah, just meant the premier class. Moto2 and 3 have been excellent.

Infoanon · 24-10-2019 12:15am

Brad Binder announced as Zarco's replacement at the Factory KTM team.

Lecuono is Binders replacement at Tech 3.

Olivera stays at Tech 3 KTM with Pol leading the factory KTM team.

The Nal · 27-10-2019 2:33pm

Rossi has no speed in that bike.

tommyboy26 · 27-10-2019 4:18pm

The Nal wrote: »

Rossi has no speed in that bike.

lorenzo was 66 seconds behind MM and 21 seconds behind syahrin that is a crazy.

even more crazy is he was 39 seconds behind Zarco and he is on a satellite bike and it was his first race. i can only imagine zarco will be even quicker at the next race

Infoanon · 27-10-2019 4:33pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

lorenzo was 66 seconds behind MM and 21 seconds behind syahrin that is a crazy.

even more crazy is he was 39 seconds behind Zarco and he is on a satellite bike and it was his first race. i can only imagine zarco will be even quicker at the next race

Jorge needs time out and to get back on a Yamaha or Ducati - can't see how Jorge can continue at Honda. Don't buy the LCR story that they surprised HRC with the Zarco subbing suggestion.

Zarco goes well at Sepang historically.

Enjoyed the race , though Moto 3 was the most exciting - any one of ten could have won !

pjohnson · 05-11-2019 6:12pm

I wonder will Dani come back for the final race. I know he said before he wouldnt return but Oliveira is out after shoulder surgery. Kallio is already riding for the factory team in place of Zarco. There a Tech3 seat empty.

legrand · 05-11-2019 6:18pm

^^^
How about a Wild Card (thems was the days) - Michael Dunlop - for the craic like! Might even win the race

pjohnson · 08-11-2019 12:00am

Lecuona is making his MotoGP debut a race ealier than planned he leaves Moto2 now to replace Oliveira.

Infoanon · 14-11-2019 11:42am

Jorge Lorenzo has called an exceptional press conference for 3pm local time in Valencia.

It is widely expected that Jorge will announce his retirement, though a year sabbatical to recover from injury is possible.

If Jorge does retire Johann Zarco is the front runner for the works Honda seat.

The Nal · 14-11-2019 11:46am

Would be very surprised if he retired. Hes only 32. Could easily see him take a year off to heal up though yeah. Hes had a huge amount of injuries and rode through some nasty ones. Shoulders, collarbones, back etc.

h3000 · 14-11-2019 11:56am

The Nal wrote: »

Would be very surprised if he retired. Hes only 32. Could easily see him take a year off to heal up though yeah. Hes had a huge amount of injuries and rode through some nasty ones. Shoulders, collarbones, back etc.

The other way to look at it is he is only 32 does he really want to risk aggravating those injuries any more? Another big crash could lead to a life changing situation for him. He doesn't have much if anything left to prove and I'm sure his bank account is plenty big enough to see him through his years.

The Nal · 14-11-2019 1:13pm

h3000 wrote: »

The other way to look at it is he is only 32 does he really want to risk aggravating those injuries any more? Another big crash could lead to a life changing situation for him. He doesn't have much if anything left to prove and I'm sure his bank account is plenty big enough to see him through his years.

Yeah very true. And this is the same way Dani retired right?

Edit. So he is retiring then.

pablo128 · 14-11-2019 4:33pm

5 times world champion. He can hold his head high.

The Nal · 14-11-2019 4:53pm

pablo128 wrote: »

5 times world champion. He can hold his head high.

Very much so. How many races did we watch when he was ahead at the first corner and that was that!

jelutong · 14-11-2019 5:11pm

He’s retiring at the end the season.

XsApollo · 14-11-2019 5:50pm

Brilliant rider, never my favourite but if he had everything right he would be the only one that was capable of challenging Marc on Marcs good day.

pjohnson · 14-11-2019 8:42pm

Who would thought Rossi would outlast Pedrosa, Stoner AND Lorenzo.

legrand · 15-11-2019 10:50am

Lorenzo noted for some verbal clangers that did not endear him to many, however when on form he was peerless. Always impressed by his smooth riding style.

Pure opera...:D
https://youtu.be/8oN9kkLcnP0

The Nal · 15-11-2019 11:16am

legrand wrote: »

Lorenzo noted for some verbal clangers that did not endear him to many, however when on form he was peerless. Always impressed by his smooth riding style.

Pure opera...:D
https://youtu.be/8oN9kkLcnP0

Still gives me shivers. Heres a sort of extended mini 7 minute documentary on it. With operatic music!

https://vimeo.com/224766544

XsApollo · 15-11-2019 7:32pm

Still gives me goosebumps too.
I never forget that, I think it’s the only time I ever just lost my mind celebrating something, totally losing control screaming jumping losing my sh*t.

I was sitting at the second last corner and we could see up to the last corner.
When they came into to stadium and Rossi was behind , I remember saying to my m8 , it’s over he can’t do it from here and thought that was that , watching them go up to the last corner , When Rossi pulled out to dive up the inside , just could see him making the move before they disappeared , I nearly fell off the seat and then on tv could see him finish the pass the place went ballistic.

Never forget it, one of the best days ever.

h3000 · 16-11-2019 11:04am

Marquez brothers at Repsol Honda for 2020??

https://twitter.com/M_Turco/status/1195640067487928321

pjohnson · 16-11-2019 11:16am

Yeah Marc spoke up for Alex.....theres no Ducati seat available or is my mind fried? Lecuona took the final vacant ride at Tech3....unless its just testing at Ducati but doubt they'll ditch Pirro.

h3000 · 16-11-2019 11:23am

pjohnson wrote: »

Yeah Marc spoke up for Alex.....theres no Ducati seat available or is my mind fried? Lecuona took the final vacant ride at Tech3....unless its just testing at Ducati but doubt they'll ditch Pirro.

I was wondering about the Ducati seat alright but I think the Ezpeleta bit might be key here. It would be awful for another rider who thought they were riding in 2020 to be kicked off to give Zarco a seat.

pjohnson · 16-11-2019 11:26am

h3000 wrote: »

I was wondering about the Ducati seat alright but I think the Ezpeleta bit might be key here. It would be awful for another rider who thought they were riding in 2020 to be kicked off to give Zarco a seat.

I just cant see either of the Pramac or Factory rider's getting the boot. Abraham brings €'s so doubt he goes.....that just leaves Rabat?

h3000 · 16-11-2019 2:20pm

pjohnson wrote: »

I just cant see either of the Pramac or Factory rider's getting the boot. Abraham brings €'s so doubt he goes.....that just leaves Rabat?

Looks more and more like it’s a done deal. Zarco to get Abraham’s bike
https://twitter.com/McLarenMotoGP/status/1195672609670729728

Infoanon · 16-11-2019 5:00pm

Keith and Hodgie made an interesting observation - why would Zarco want a Ducati ride given the problems he had with the KTM - Dorna are probably involved in this and want Zarco on the grid next year.

Another strong rumour is that Petrucci and Miller are going to swap seats for 2020.

Everything points to Alex being on the HRC on Tuesday

pjohnson · 16-11-2019 5:36pm

Going by this Karel is safe

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/zarco-honda-avintia-moto2/4598259/amp/?https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsport.com%2Fmotogp%2Fnews%2Fzarco-honda-avintia-moto2%2F4598259%2F=&__twitter_impression=true

Zarco straight up says Avintia arent a good team and it would be a mistake to join them. He'd prefer to go to Moto2 with VDS replacing Alex.

Infoanon · 18-11-2019 6:15pm

Zarco Avintia Ducati deal is back on with Ducati giving Johann guarantees on improved support for Avintia and some rumoured financial aid from the Le Man's circuit .

What bike,if any,#5 will be on is still unclear but Zarco has been in with the bosses of Ducati today prior to tomorrow's 2020 testing.

#73 Alex Marquez now confirmed at HRC

pjohnson · 18-11-2019 7:08pm

Infoanon wrote: »

Zarco Avintia Ducati deal is back on with Ducati giving Johann guarantees on improved support for Avintia and some rumoured financial aid from the Le Man's circuit .

What bike,if any,#5 will be on is still unclear but Zarco has been in with the bosses of Ducati today prior to tomorrow's 2020 testing.

#73 Alex Marquez now confirmed at HRC

Brad Binder is taking #33

MotoGP 2019

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