Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

Dakota Dan · 24-10-2018 10:39am

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

I hope people aren’t suggesting Peter Casey is wrong. That would be deluded.

He’s dead right, I hope you aren’t one of the sheeple that will vote for him because of what he said.

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 10:52am

Dakota Dan wrote: »

He’s dead right, I hope you aren’t one of the sheeple that will vote for him because of what he said.

I will be voting for Peter Casey. I'd like to think I'm not a "sheeple" and I have logical reasons for doing so:

He is the only candidate for president (or, in fact, for any public office in Ireland) that has come out and said what the majority of the population actually think - if we reward this behaviour with votes, it will encourage other candidates in other elections to tell the truth also - currently too many lying weasels or PC automatons are being rewarded by lying or covering up the truth. It will be better for the future of the country if truth is rewarded.
He is probably the only candidate who has any hope (slim and all though it might be) of beating Higgins. Higgins, to me, personifies much of what is wrong with Ireland as a country - a fake socialist, who says one thing while doing another, and someone who has never done a real days work in his life.
The office of president is meaningless anyway, so if we are going to test the waters by putting a guy who says it like it is in office, this is a good place to trial the concept.
If Casey wins, it is a black eye for the cosy consensus that exists in Irish political circles - shaking the foundations of that can only be for the good of the country long term.

Gwen Cooper · 24-10-2018 10:58am

Gravelly wrote: »

I will be voting for Peter Casey. I'd like to think I'm not a "sheeple" and I have logical reasons for doing so:
[*]He is the only candidate for president (or, in fact, for any public office in Ireland) that has come out and said what the majority of the population actually think - if we reward this behaviour with votes, it will encourage other candidates in other elections to tell the truth also - currently too many lying weasels or PC automatons are being rewarded by lying or covering up the truth. It will be better for the future of the country if truth is rewarded.

[*]He is probably the only candidate who has any hope (slim and all though it might be) of beating Higgins. Higgins, to me, personifies much of what is wrong with Ireland as a country - a fake socialist, who says one thing while doing another, and someone who has never done a real days work in his life.

[*]The office of president is meaningless anyway, so if we are going to test the waters by putting a guy who says it like it is in office, this is a good place to trial the concept.

[*]If Casey wins, it is a black eye for the cosy consensus that exists in Irish political circles - shaking the foundations of that can only be for the good of the country long term.

*whispers in an apocalyptic voice* Trump

Paddy Cow · 24-10-2018 10:59am

wexie wrote: »

Here are some articles about a prison in Norway, which looks pretty much like a holiday camp, people would probably be outraged here it's so open and cushy, yet somehow magically they manage to achieve a recidivism rate of 16%, possibly the lowest in the world.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18121914
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-18135537/norway-s-self-sufficient-community-prison

And as much as I feel (note how I don't say believe) that many many of the scrotes that go through our legal system deserve a good beating to within an inch of their lives, I'd be quite happy to forgo that sense of vengeance if we could get to a point where only 16% (or 20 or 30) of them go back to their old ways.

The Norway prison is not what it seems. They have a 16% recidivism because the people sent there are carefully selected and are the type of person who is likely to want to rehabilitate. If they were achieving those kind of stats with scumbags who didn't give a sh!te and just saw jail time as the cost of business, then I'd be impressed. They don't have a 16% recidivism rate across the board, which is what some people seem to think.

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 11:03am

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

*whispers in an apocalyptic voice* Trump

If I had a vote in America, I would have voted Trump. He has delivered a healthy economy and more jobs. Airy-fairy ideas of wrongthink against transexuals, comparisons to nazis because he doesn't play the PC game, and all that nonsense is fine for academics and the chattering classes to worry about, but for most people who have families to raise and bills to pay, that stuff is meaningless.

Lollipops23 · 24-10-2018 11:13am

Gravelly wrote: »

If I had a vote in America, I would have voted Trump.

Well bully for you. America is the laughing stock of the world.

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 11:26am

Lollipops23 wrote: »

Well bully for you. America is the laughing stock of the world.

Sure it is :rolleyes:

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 24-10-2018 11:33am

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

*whispers in an apocalyptic voice* Trump

Is it any wonder people are voting right wing? You can’t sneeze these days without offending someone. God forbid you actually speak about real life troubles you might have had with travellers or point out when we have thousands of people in b and bs and asleep on the streets that we are incapable of helping migrants? Unless we give each of them a cardboard box as they get off the plane. We’re living in a world where it’s wrong to question anything, give someone who is unwilling to work as much money as we can, ensure the unemployed are better looked after than low paid workers, don’t assume someone’s gender, it’s offensive to refer ton someone as male or female, I mean we’re at a stage where people are sUggesting we be allowed alter actual birth certs. The left have ensured that in their bid for acceptance, and tolerance, it’s only a small proportion of society that can voice their opinions, and everyone else is supposed to bend over backwards to accommodate those opinions.

Edgware · 24-10-2018 12:30pm

Lollipops23 wrote: »

Well bully for you. America is the laughing stock of the world.

Thats why there are hundreds of thousands trying to get in there.
How many are queuing to get in to Rusia, Saudi Arabia or Venezuela?

Donald Trump · 24-10-2018 12:39pm

Gravelly wrote: »

If I had a vote in America, I would have voted Trump. He has delivered a healthy economy and more jobs. Airy-fairy ideas of wrongthink against transexuals, comparisons to nazis because he doesn't play the PC game, and all that nonsense is fine for academics and the chattering classes to worry about, but for most people who have families to raise and bills to pay, that stuff is meaningless.

Don't forget the murder of journalists.

That is, as long as the state responsible doesn't make a mess of the cover up

stuff.hunter · 24-10-2018 1:23pm

Gravelly wrote: »

If I had a vote in America, I would have voted Trump. He has delivered a healthy economy and more jobs. Airy-fairy ideas of wrongthink against transexuals, comparisons to nazis because he doesn't play the PC game, and all that nonsense is fine for academics and the chattering classes to worry about, but for most people who have families to raise and bills to pay, that stuff is meaningless.

well said, Ireland needs someone like him badly as all what our govt does is looking after illegals, 'refugees' and so on ...hard working class getting screwed from all directions

VinLieger · 24-10-2018 1:36pm

Gravelly wrote: »

I would have voted Trump. He has delivered a healthy economy and more jobs. A

He's delivered neither of these.

Unemployment has been on a steady downward trend since 2010 thanks to Obama, Trump has simply not screwed that up.

As far as a healthy economy goes he's exploded the national debt with his tax cuts for the uber wealthy.

No doubt you'll try and quote the stock market is booming or other nonsense while not understanding the stock market is zero indication of a healthy economy

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 1:41pm

VinLieger wrote: »

He's delivered neither of these.

Unemployment has been on a steady downward trend since 2010 thanks to Obama, Trump has simply not screwed that up.

As far as a healthy economy goes he's exploded the national debt with his tax cuts for the uber wealthy.

No doubt you'll try and quote the stock market is booming or other nonsense while not understanding the stock market is zero indication of a healthy economy

I hear the above all the time - strange that Obama couldn't do a thing when he was president, but now apparently he's delivering jobs and growth 2 years after he left office

Whatever the reason, the current growth and jobs situation in America is good for most Americans, if that's Trumps doing, or he's just lucky, well, as Napoleon said "I'd rather have a lucky general than a good one"

super_furry · 24-10-2018 1:52pm

I love popping in here every few days and seeing what you're all on about.

Somehow it always seems to circle back to Trump and Obama and the whole 'YOU'RE THE REASON TRUMP WON!'

Boom_Bap · 24-10-2018 1:55pm

super_furry wrote: »

I love popping in here every few days and seeing what you're all on about.

Somehow it always seems to circle back to Trump and Obama and the whole 'YOU'RE THE REASON TRUMP WON!'

Word on the street is that Trump actually grabbed Cash by the p*ssy and he got US citizenship for her kids to all vote for him in the election. Then he Stormy'd her into silence.

gwalk · 24-10-2018 1:58pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Word on the street is that Trump actually grabbed Cash by the p*ssy and he got US citizenship for her kids to all vote for him in the election. Then he Stormy'd her into silence.

Be like sticking his arm into the grand canyon

24-10-2018 2:00pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Word on the street is that Trump actually grabbed Cash by the p*ssy and he got US citizenship for her kids to all vote for him in the election. Then he Stormy'd her into silence.

I’m surprised he had a hand left afterward.

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 2:08pm

Tadeo Mysterious SailboatMGS wrote: »

I’m surprised he had a hand left afterward.

He definitely wouldn't have a watch.

mikhail · 24-10-2018 2:10pm

gwalk wrote: »

Be like sticking his arm into the grand canyon

He does have small hands, but come on...

punisher5112 · 24-10-2018 3:00pm

More posts about cash.....

Anyone any new inputs into the internet by hers truly????

Deebles McBeebles · 24-10-2018 3:04pm

Have a look at her FB, latest thing is apparently trying to incite violence toward any settled person who doesn't bow at the shrine of the traveller god.

KrustyUCC · 24-10-2018 3:49pm

She is going to be at a protest outside the Garden of Remembrance tomorrow between 1-2

Supposedly according to Bernard Sweeney "If anyone wants to know who Travellers are, our ethnicity, our nationality and how racism/classism/capitalism is one of the same and killing all in it's wake"

Martin Collins Pavee Point amongst others will be speaking on the day

nim1bdeh38l2cw · 24-10-2018 3:50pm

Travellers are not a different race to us, so why are we racist when we hate them?

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 3:55pm

Ayaan Lively Key wrote: »

Travellers are not a different race to us, so why are we racist when we hate them?

For the same reason that expressing any kind of misgivings about islamic terrorism or muslim rape gangs is racist - because those with reasons (financial or ideological) to prevent the truth being spoken have convinced idiots that feelings trump facts.

KrustyUCC · 24-10-2018 3:56pm

They're just 'a vulnerable community' according to Simon Coveney

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 3:57pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

They're just 'a vulnerable community' according to Simon Coveney

When you hear Simon speaking, you can see George Soros' lips moving.

super_furry · 24-10-2018 4:00pm

Gravelly wrote: »

When you hear Simon speaking, you can see George Soros' lips moving.

Fcuking A! In the last two pages, we've had Trump, we've had Obama, we even had a Napoleon and now we finally have the biggest right-wing, American wannabe, looper bogeyman of all, ladies and gentlemen, I give you.....GEORGE SOROS!

All in a thread about an Irish traveller women with a gaggle load of kids.

Deebles McBeebles · 24-10-2018 4:00pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

She is going to be at a protest outside the Garden of Remembrance tomorrow between 1-2

The local Penneys should up security for the day.

KrustyUCC · 24-10-2018 4:01pm

Careful now that train of thought even if based on fact will prob be seen as racist by some on here

Sure poor Margaret only stole the clothes for the kids like any mother would do

Boom_Bap · 24-10-2018 4:01pm

super_furry wrote: »

Fcuking A! In the last two pages, we've had Trump, we've had Obama, we even had a Napoleon and now where finally have the biggest right-wing, American wannabe, looper bogeyman of all, ladies and gentlemen, I give you.....GEORGE SOROS!

All in a thread about an Irish traveller women with a gaggle load of kids.

Apparently he shops at Penneys. It has not yet been determined if it's the 'lift' variety of shopping.

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 4:03pm

super_furry wrote: »

Fcuking A! In the last two pages, we've had Trump, we've had Obama, we even had a Napoleon and now where finally have the biggest right-wing, American wannabe, looper bogeyman of all, ladies and gentlemen, I give you.....GEORGE SOROS!

All in a thread about an Irish traveller women with a gaggle load of kids.

I thought you were just "dipping in"?

Can't you come back in a week or so and pretend to be wise and all-knowing then?

super_furry · 24-10-2018 4:04pm

Gravelly wrote: »

I thought you were just "dipping in"?

Can't you come back in a week or so and pretend to be wise and all-knowing then?

Nah come on now, you know I'm a secret Soros agent secretly working online to undermine Penney's shareprice and to force every farmer in Ireland to give up their land to travellers, immigrants and for some reason vegans.

Soros. We're everywhere.

Ulysses Gaze · 24-10-2018 4:04pm

super_furry wrote: »

Fcuking A! In the last two pages, we've had Trump, we've had Obama, we even had a Napoleon and now we finally have the biggest right-wing, American wannabe, looper bogeyman of all, ladies and gentlemen, I give you.....GEORGE SOROS!

All in a thread about an Irish traveller women with a gaggle load of kids.

Even when it was the bears, we all knew it was Soros.

Geuze · 24-10-2018 4:05pm

Gravelly wrote: »

If I had a vote in America, I would have voted Trump. He has delivered a healthy economy and more jobs. Airy-fairy ideas of wrongthink against transexuals, comparisons to nazis because he doesn't play the PC game, and all that nonsense is fine for academics and the chattering classes to worry about, but for most people who have families to raise and bills to pay, that stuff is meaningless.

I agree with dismissing all the identity politics nonsense.

However, Trump is no friend of the worker.

He has pushed through large cuts in corporation tax and income tax that will not help the average worker.

No sign of him increasing the min wage, though.

nim1bdeh38l2cw · 24-10-2018 4:08pm

Gravelly wrote: »

For the same reason that expressing any kind of misgivings about islamic terrorism or muslim rape gangs is racist - because those with reasons (financial or ideological) to prevent the truth being spoken have convinced idiots that feelings trump facts.

That'd be sectarian though

tretorn · 24-10-2018 4:10pm

Margsret may havr stashed some of the Penneys stuff where the sun dont shine so anyone grabbing her might catch themselves on a coathanger, gropers beware.
An SNA who works in West Dublin said the vast majority of people who get one on one SNAs are non national. The non national children are autistic and wont get services in Poland or Lothuania or Estonia for example. The parents hear through the grapevine that the Irish are a soft touch if you need one on one for a child with a disability. We cant keep going with this and we should be concentrating resources on Irish children.
Its not right that people are bringing autistic children here for one reason only and thats to get extra resources free of charge. I wont get much if I go to Poland so what's in it for me to have so many Poles here, we need to make things less attractive.
How much is child benefit in Poland and can you spend your life on welfare there.

super_furry · 24-10-2018 4:12pm

tretorn wrote: »

Margsret may havr stashed some of the Penneys stuff where the sun dont shine so anyone grabbing her might catch themselves on a coathanger, gropers beware.
An SNA who works in West Dublin daid the vast majority of people who get one on one SNAs are non national. The non national children are autistic and wont get services in Poland or Lothuania or Estonia for example. The parents hear through the grapevine that the Irish are a soft touch if you need one on one for a child witha disability. We csnt keep going with this and we should be concentrating resources on Irish children.

This thread is just

eastwest · 24-10-2018 4:13pm

tretorn wrote: »

Margsret may havr stashed some of the Penneys stuff where the sun dont shine so anyone grabbing her might catch themselves on a coathanger, gropers beware.
An SNA who works in West Dublin daid the vast majority of people who get one on one SNAs are non national. The non national children are autistic and wont get services in Poland or Lothuania or Estonia for example. The parents hear through the grapevine that the Irish are a soft touch if you need one on one for a child witha disability. We csnt keep going with this and we should be concentrating resources on Irish children.

And you have data to back this up? The 'vast majority' bit?

tretorn · 24-10-2018 4:23pm

eastwest wrote: »

And you have data to back this up? The 'vast majority' bit?

I heard it from an SNA working in West Dublin. She is working in one of these schools so she knows the situation.
There are also loads of educate together schools in West Dublin and some dont have a single white child.
The local Gardai have advised white teenagers not to walk through some parks. There are gangs of black teenagers meeting up to fight each other so best not to go there.
We are going to have ghettoes like they have in Belgium and Paris but unlike Belgium and Paris our Gardai havent the manpower or the tough police skills to deal with whats coming down the road.
The poor white people living in these areas haveno one to speak up for them and their right to public space, the liberals will squeak racist and engage in online bullying helped by the media.
The rest of us will thank our lucky stars we dont live in these areas.

super_furry · 24-10-2018 4:28pm

tretorn wrote: »

There are also loads of educate together schools in West Dublin and some dont have a single white child.

Name one.

24-10-2018 4:29pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

She is going to be at a protest outside the Garden of Remembrance tomorrow between 1-2

Supposedly according to Bernard Sweeney "If anyone wants to know who Travellers are, our ethnicity, our nationality and how racism/classism/capitalism is one of the same and killing all in it's wake"

Martin Collins Pavee Point amongst others will be speaking on the day

They’re hoping Paul Murphy turns up.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 24-10-2018 4:37pm

tretorn wrote: »

Margsret may havr stashed some of the Penneys stuff where the sun dont shine so anyone grabbing her might catch themselves on a coathanger, gropers beware.
An SNA who works in West Dublin said the vast majority of people who get one on one SNAs are non national. The non national children are autistic and wont get services in Poland or Lothuania or Estonia for example. The parents hear through the grapevine that the Irish are a soft touch if you need one on one for a child with a disability. We cant keep going with this and we should be concentrating resources on Irish children.
Its not right that people are bringing autistic children here for one reason only and thats to get extra resources free of charge. I wont get much if I go to Poland so what's in it for me to have so many Poles here, we need to make things less attractive.
How much is child benefit in Poland and can you spend your life on welfare there.

I don’t begrudge any parent with a disabled child wanting the best for their child at all if they contribute to society

freshpopcorn · 24-10-2018 4:40pm

Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: »

I don’t begrudge any parent with a disabled child wanting the best for their child at all if they contribute to society

To be honest if people didn't go robbing and behaved themselves and lived within there means if they were on social welfare. People would be a lot more accepting.

wexie · 24-10-2018 4:42pm

Paddy Cow wrote: »

The Norway prison is not what it seems. They have a 16% recidivism because the people sent there are carefully selected and are the type of person who is likely to want to rehabilitate. If they were achieving those kind of stats with scumbags who didn't give a sh!te and just saw jail time as the cost of business, then I'd be impressed. They don't have a 16% recidivism rate across the board, which is what some people seem to think.

That may well be true, but even if it is having even a small prison like that here for carefully selected prisoners would still be a massive improvement over lumping the offenders who might be willing and capable of improving in with the hardened criminals no?

Of course Norway isn't perfect, nowhere is perfect cause everywhere has people and people **** up, some more than others admittedly.

But we shouldn't be aiming for perfect, we should start with aiming for better because the system we currently have is **** and clearly not working.

Not the policing, not the courts, not the legal system and not the prisons.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 24-10-2018 4:44pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

To be honest if people didn't go robbing and behaved themselves and lived within there means if they were on social welfare. People would be a lot more accepting.

Social welfare is too generous in this country. There’s no incentive to work. Government should focus on helping families who help themselves.

blanch152 · 24-10-2018 4:45pm

wexie wrote: »

That may well be true, but even if it is having even a small prison like that here for carefully selected prisoners would still be a massive improvement over lumping the offenders who might be willing and capable of improving in with the hardened criminals no?

Of course Norway isn't perfect, nowhere is perfect cause everywhere has people and people **** up, some more than others admittedly.

But we shouldn't be aiming for perfect, we should start with aiming for better because the system we currently have is **** and clearly not working.

Not the policing, not the courts, not the legal system and not the prisons.

What about our open prisons? With a carefully selected clientele, I am sure they too have a low level of re-offending. Is it the careful selection process for open prisons that ensures that low level or is it the rehabilitation element?

I am in the former camp rather than the latter.

wexie · 24-10-2018 4:45pm

tretorn wrote: »

I heard it from an SNA working in West Dublin.

She must be a really great and caring SNA if this is how she speaks about the children in her care....

:rolleyes:

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 4:48pm

super_furry wrote: »

Nah come on now, you know I'm a secret Soros agent secretly working online to undermine Penney's shareprice and to force every farmer in Ireland to give up their land to travellers, immigrants and for some reason vegans.

Soros. We're everywhere.

And so witty too. I almost laughed.

wexie · 24-10-2018 4:51pm

blanch152 wrote: »

What about our open prisons? With a carefully selected clientele, I am sure they too have a low level of re-offending. Is it the careful selection process for open prisons that ensures that low level or is it the rehabilitation element?

I am in the former camp rather than the latter.

I don't know, I'd like to think a combination of both to be honest.

If it really is just the careful selection of the prisoners I'd have to question why they are there in the first place and would those places not be better put to use with some of the other ones out and about that could 'use rehabilitation'.

Look I'm not an expert, I've lots of opinions and read a fair bit.

My thoughts are (in short) that the current system is clearly not working* and it seems that nothing is being done other than moaning about the system not working. :mad:

(mind it seems to be working plenty well for the legal system itself)

I clearly have my own ideas about what would be a better system, and who knows, maybe they are wrong (although there seems to be plenty of evidence of them working in different countries) but at the end of the day I don't particularly care. I'd just like to see some evidence of something (anything) being done to improve things a little.

I have 3 young kids and if things keep going the way they are I dread thinking of them having to go through their teens here.

KrustyUCC · 24-10-2018 4:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

They’re hoping Paul Murphy turns up.

Yeah interesting agenda for the protest. End Racism against Travellers

"against Peter Casey hate speech of Irish travellers

demanding traveller ethnicity be protected by introducing legislation to protect ethnic minorities

strong legislation would protect families and create peace on the island

legislation on hate crimes so the likes of Peter Casey can be taken to task and Ireland frees itself from right wing politics

Government needs to be challenged on statistics not in our favour

From one generation to the next Travellers have been met with violence, oppression, institutionalised racism

time to come together and address the issues that are killing us and we need to fight all forms of racism and hate"

Good man Bernard Sweeney

Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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