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UCD or RCSI?
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There are more than a few backdoors in from what I've heard
I have heard that too, but I am not sure is it true. I know there was an odd case of one person failing a year three times even though the policy was they're out if they failed more than twice
Well it was a Canadian that said it to my partner and his friend and since I repeated my LC with them, I can confirm they worked their asses off to get in. But then again, we have a different exam system to them and they don't realise getting nigh on 600 points was very hard for most people. But it was insulting all the same!0 -
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WoolahUrma wrote: »What was his take on the different teaching styles? Hospitals? Lecturers? Fellow Irish students?
Fellow Irish students, and students in general, a mixed batch, a lot from the Institute and other private leaving cert schools, others from regular schools (more so in UCD though) there are a lot of Malaysians in both colleges, they tend to stick mostly to themselves. In RCSI there is a greater variety of nationalities which of course meant getting to know a lot of people from all over the world. Both colleges had their fair share of "Do you know who my father is, he is a consultant neurologist at X hospital" (genuine, hand on my heart quote from one twat!) and "And then we went to NZ to watch the Lions, far better than watching it on TV, sure you know yourself" A lot of the kids came from privileged backgrounds and they were a dose, but seriously, no matter where you go in life, there are those sorts everywhere.
A random side note, two friends of mine met studying there, one from Asia, one from Central America and they are happily married and settled in Ireland now with a family
Teaching, though UCD's facilities are outstanding with their nice new building, he preferred RCSI. The module method used by UCD in his opinion made everything so rushed. The best example being microbiology. They lecture notes, for the most part, had one group of information, the lecturer would then spend the lecture cramming more information from slides the students didn't have onto the notes, then they were given a reading list of a few books (more than you would expect for an 8 week module) and the exams were literally all over the place. There was a lot of labs that were clearly just UCD wasting money and charging fee paying students through the teeth for, they were completely irrelevant to students unless they left the practice side of medicine and went into lab fields. RCSI did not waste time on such things and the microbiology actually made sense according to my partner. Both were excellent with the dealing of cadavers and learning from them, but again, UCD's facilities were superior, though he felt the lecturers in RCSI (practicing and retired surgeons) were better, a few of the UCD anatomy lecturers had done biology degrees, not medicine.
Styles, both had their pro's and cons. In RCSI there were a few continual assessment oral exams in anatomy. Though terrifying at the time, it helped to have a percentage done and scores known before the larger written exams. UCD I cannot remember had they this. I just recall one instance my partner was nearly on deaths door (self inflicted) and somehow managed to pull a B in an oral exam by picking himself up for a few minutes. Apparently it was hilarious to behold! :rolleyes: He preferred RCSI's smaller room sizes.
Hospitals were similar. Both colleges demanding a good sense of decorum and respect for the patients. They did go to different hospitals, UCD's being more centrally based, as I stated already, Beaumont was RCSI's main hospital, so a bit of a trek for many. Crumlin was the children's hospital for both and RCSI had the Rotunda while UCD went to Holles Street for obstetrics.
RCSI had a nice smaller cosier feel to it. Most everyone knew everyone. The sports teams were all close knit and there was a laptop included with your fees, replaced then in either 3/4 year. But UCD had a greater variety of clubs, it is after getting a fantastic new gym and swimming pool and the campus as a whole gets better guest speakers and the like.0 -
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wolfpawnat wrote: »Fellow Irish students, and students in general, a mixed batch, a lot from the Institute and other private leaving cert schools, others from regular schools (more so in UCD though) there are a lot of Malaysians in both colleges, they tend to stick mostly to themselves. In RCSI there is a greater variety of nationalities which of course meant getting to know a lot of people from all over the world. Both colleges had their fair share of "Do you know who my father is, he is a consultant neurologist at X hospital" (genuine, hand on my heart quote from one twat!) and "And then we went to NZ to watch the Lions, far better than watching it on TV, sure you know yourself" A lot of the kids came from privileged backgrounds and they were a dose, but seriously, no matter where you go in life, there are those sorts everywhere.
A random side note, two friends of mine met studying there, one from Asia, one from Central America and they are happily married and settled in Ireland now with a family
Teaching, though UCD's facilities are outstanding with their nice new building, he preferred RCSI. The module method used by UCD in his opinion made everything so rushed. The best example being microbiology. They lecture notes, for the most part, had one group of information, the lecturer would then spend the lecture cramming more information from slides the students didn't have onto the notes, then they were given a reading list of a few books (more than you would expect for an 8 week module) and the exams were literally all over the place. There was a lot of labs that were clearly just UCD wasting money and charging fee paying students through the teeth for, they were completely irrelevant to students unless they left the practice side of medicine and went into lab fields. RCSI did not waste time on such things and the microbiology actually made sense according to my partner. Both were excellent with the dealing of cadavers and learning from them, but again, UCD's facilities were superior, though he felt the lecturers in RCSI (practicing and retired surgeons) were better, a few of the UCD anatomy lecturers had done biology degrees, not medicine.
Styles, both had their pro's and cons. In RCSI there were a few continual assessment oral exams in anatomy. Though terrifying at the time, it helped to have a percentage done and scores known before the larger written exams. UCD I cannot remember had they this. I just recall one instance my partner was nearly on deaths door (self inflicted) and somehow managed to pull a B in an oral exam by picking himself up for a few minutes. Apparently it was hilarious to behold! :rolleyes: He preferred RCSI's smaller room sizes.
Hospitals were similar. Both colleges demanding a good sense of decorum and respect for the patients. They did go to different hospitals, UCD's being more centrally based, as I stated already, Beaumont was RCSI's main hospital, so a bit of a trek for many. Crumlin was the children's hospital for both and RCSI had the Rotunda while UCD went to Holles Street for obstetrics.
RCSI had a nice smaller cosier feel to it. Most everyone knew everyone. The sports teams were all close knit and there was a laptop included with your fees, replaced then in either 3/4 year. But UCD had a greater variety of clubs, it is after getting a fantastic new gym and swimming pool and the campus as a whole gets better guest speakers and the like.
Have you a problem with the lions loike? Yeah, funny, a friend of mine from secondary school did undergrad med and as he said himself, it's hard not to have a superiority complex when med runs in the family. That kinda stuff doesn't bother me at all, people can think what they like about themselves, good luck to them.
The impression I'm getting is that rcsi have the cosy factor of the small class and the early clinical stuff really appeals to me. I'm driving ( a humble jetta ) so the hospital
commute won't be a massive deal.
Did he do any international summer work or after the degree? I've read mixed reports about much the college help with this0 -
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wolfpawnat wrote: »Fellow Irish students, and students in general, a mixed batch, a lot from the Institute and other private leaving cert schools, others from regular schools (more so in UCD though) there are a lot of Malaysians in both colleges, they tend to stick mostly to themselves. In RCSI there is a greater variety of nationalities which of course meant getting to know a lot of people from all over the world. Both colleges had their fair share of "Do you know who my father is, he is a consultant neurologist at X hospital" (genuine, hand on my heart quote from one twat!) and "And then we went to NZ to watch the Lions, far better than watching it on TV, sure you know yourself" A lot of the kids came from privileged backgrounds and they were a dose, but seriously, no matter where you go in life, there are those sorts everywhere.
A random side note, two friends of mine met studying there, one from Asia, one from Central America and they are happily married and settled in Ireland now with a family
Teaching, though UCD's facilities are outstanding with their nice new building, he preferred RCSI. The module method used by UCD in his opinion made everything so rushed. The best example being microbiology. They lecture notes, for the most part, had one group of information, the lecturer would then spend the lecture cramming more information from slides the students didn't have onto the notes, then they were given a reading list of a few books (more than you would expect for an 8 week module) and the exams were literally all over the place. There was a lot of labs that were clearly just UCD wasting money and charging fee paying students through the teeth for, they were completely irrelevant to students unless they left the practice side of medicine and went into lab fields. RCSI did not waste time on such things and the microbiology actually made sense according to my partner. Both were excellent with the dealing of cadavers and learning from them, but again, UCD's facilities were superior, though he felt the lecturers in RCSI (practicing and retired surgeons) were better, a few of the UCD anatomy lecturers had done biology degrees, not medicine.
Styles, both had their pro's and cons. In RCSI there were a few continual assessment oral exams in anatomy. Though terrifying at the time, it helped to have a percentage done and scores known before the larger written exams. UCD I cannot remember had they this. I just recall one instance my partner was nearly on deaths door (self inflicted) and somehow managed to pull a B in an oral exam by picking himself up for a few minutes. Apparently it was hilarious to behold! :rolleyes: He preferred RCSI's smaller room sizes.
Hospitals were similar. Both colleges demanding a good sense of decorum and respect for the patients. They did go to different hospitals, UCD's being more centrally based, as I stated already, Beaumont was RCSI's main hospital, so a bit of a trek for many. Crumlin was the children's hospital for both and RCSI had the Rotunda while UCD went to Holles Street for obstetrics.
RCSI had a nice smaller cosier feel to it. Most everyone knew everyone. The sports teams were all close knit and there was a laptop included with your fees, replaced then in either 3/4 year. But UCD had a greater variety of clubs, it is after getting a fantastic new gym and swimming pool and the campus as a whole gets better guest speakers and the like.
I take it that much of this, particularly the UCD criticism, refers to undergrad med, yes? I assume there is much less time in GEM for random microbiology labs.0 -
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WoolahUrma wrote: »Auto correct on iPhone
I'll add it to the list of reasons why I hate the iPhone...
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