Official Conor McGregor thread (part 6) *Read Mod Note in Post 1* Revised 13-01-19

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

What we think, Cowboy talking nonsense or is a bout agreement on the table?

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I think cowboy is trying to get the fight, acting like its closer to reality than it really is. Or he's just playing along with some stuff the mma media has been putting out.

Can't see conor being interested for a few reasons. Cowboy is more risky than alot of his other options, has submissions + headkicks. Also suddenly he's able to make 155 again despite being older and had to move up to 170 2 years ago, "cowboy is back" didn't know he went anywhere? must have some new supplements.

Yeah, was this from Chael also and I think it was even before Cowboy's post.


https://twitter.com/ChaelSonnen/status/1062519874415583232

Also, Cowboy has absolutely bottled nearly every big fight he’s ever been in, even in WEC. He’ll get paid big time, sure, but I wouldn’t give him even a 10% chance of beating McGregor.

I still want to see it though, you’d probably get very short odds on McGregor showing up to the press conference looking like Billy the Kid just to wind Cerrone up.

Mcgregor has never faced anyone in the ufc who can throw a dangerous head kick, not something he'll be interested in learning to deal with at this stage. Have you seen where he holds his hands when he fights? He probably got some in training and has said something along these lines before 'i've come through alot worse, you've never experienced shin bone to chin bone' Don't recall him ever getting headkicked once in the ufc. Just my opinion but I dont think you'll ever see him face a dangerous kicker like cowboy or barboza.

I'd love to see this fight.....in Cowboy stadium! An interesting thing would be that it would be ppv but not a champ fight so would they main event him. Well be mad to see not be main but a title fight would have to take top spot.

It's mad the amount of comments online how you're a Conor nuthugger if you pick him against cowboy. Not sure if they are just haters, delusional or both. Hope this one gets made

spix wrote: »

' Don't recall him ever getting headkicked once in the ufc. Just my opinion but I dont think you'll ever see him face a dangerous kicker like cowboy or barboza.

Mac Holloway can throw headkicks. And pretty sure he threw one at Conor, who took it on the forearm and was knock back a bit.

I honestly think those three are some of the easier options for him, they have poor boxing and struggle with hands and when backed up.

dulux99 wrote: »

I don't disagree but Cerrone is probably one of the richest fighters on the roster. He's earned it of course but judging in his lifestyle he's minted. Huge sponsorship deals with Monster etc.

But overall I agree. Most MMA fighters wind up skint anyway so it's good to see guys getting paid

Didn't his Grand da or Granny buy him his ranch with all the land, They had a few quid behind then and took care of him so literally all his money goes on Fun stuff,

Lillybloom wrote: »

I find it interesting that people seem to assume Cerrone will be an easy fight for Conor, people thought the same thing about Diaz. It's a strange assumption given they are much bigger opponents than he normally dominates.

Assume its because of how cowboy lost to diaz but that's not how things work... cowboy is a very dangerous fight for mcgregor. Bigger, head kicks, submissions, used to long fights against bigger opponents than mcgregor.

jimwallace197 wrote: »

I think if Mcgregor is serious about re-claiming the Lightweight title, he needs to be fighting a better calibre opponent than this, Tony Ferguson/Kevin Lee, Aldo or Barboza.

At least those fights have a bit of meat on them, I dont think he's going to achieve anything by beating Cowboy, it wont change peoples perception about whether or not he can really mix it at the top of the division anymore.

It will give further weight to the argument that Mcgregor is more interested in hype/paydays than actually leaving a legacy.

Fighting a better calibre opponent... the guy just broke mike perrys arm, why do so many people think cowboy is a bad fighter just because he might have had 1 or 2 bad showings, look how many times he fights and who hes fought against.

spix wrote: »

Fighting a better calibre opponent... the guy just broke mike perrys arm, why do so many people think cowboy is a bad fighter just because he might have had 1 or 2 bad showings, look how many times he fights and who hes fought against.

I don't think anyone thinks hes a bad fighter, more that hes a level below or two below the very top. Also as exciting as Perry can be, I just don't rate him at all.

Thing is I cant see Conor having too many more fights and I just don't want to see him wasting fights against the likes of Cerrone or Pettis etc, great fighters in their day but they're finished at the top, there's so many better options.

xtal191 wrote: »

I don't think anyone thinks hes a bad fighter, more that hes a level below or two below the very top. Also as exciting as Perry can be, I just don't rate him at all.

Thing is I cant see Conor having too many more fights and I just don't want to see him wasting fights against the likes of Cerrone or Pettis etc, great fighters in their day but they're finished at the top, there's so many better options.

I'm a huge mcgregor fan but you realise he's been stopped in 2/4 of his last ufc fights, a submission loss to both diaz and khabib, 2 people who most often win by decision. He's 1-1 at 155lbs and hasn't shown he can definitely consistently win at that weight, he did skip the whole queue to face Alvarez.

I'd be confident saying cowboy has faced much tougher opposition in his last few fights than both diaz and khabib have. If there's anyone who needs to prove they still belong at the top its mcgregor. I don't like saying that but its the truth. He needs to get a convincing win against a decent opponent, cowboy more than suits the bill...as does pettis or any top 10 lightweight.

spix wrote: »

Well, it was nearly broken and definitely damaged, it was a clean submission win, not a neck crank which could have been peeled off. I usually defend mcgregor but the lack of respect to cowboy and perry is crazy. They're both extremely dangerous fighters.

Have a wrestler apply a fulcrum choke on you and peel it off, before you think your head is gonna pop off.

Mellor wrote: »

Khabib is undefeated and a arguably the best grappler in MMA. Holding a loss to Khabib against someone is bizarre.
Conor has only had title fights at 155. If he climbed up on unranked guys his win rate would be much more consistent.


Neck cranks can be just peeled off now? Good to know I guess.

He's undefeated but its still a stoppage loss. Al + Barboza were not stopped.

Conor had no resistance to the choke, he could have at least tried to push khabibs arms up over his face, he just accepted it. It looked like he went towards khabibs hands once to try separate his grip but changed his mind. I watch pretty much every ufc card and you very often see people in worse submission situations where you think there is no hope they can get out of this, but they still at least try and are sometimes successful. Conor just doesn't seem to be able to handle those kind of situations well at all, I blame his preparation. Too much yes men around who are very unlikely to put him in a choke.

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Spoken like someone who's never tried to escape an RNC/Fulcrum choke.

Conor is a world class fighter, on the biggest stage. Other fighters on undercards getting paid peanuts escape chokes where the arm is under the chin. That's much harder to get out of but some still manage and most try. Diaz + khabib, once the arms were around his throat/neck there was no attempt at all to get out of it.

This fight had several situations like this, went to a decision. Does Conor tap here, I think the answer is yes. The guy in yellow was paid $12,500

spix wrote: »

He's undefeated but its still a stoppage loss. Al + Barboza were not stopped.

That's a very simplistic view of MMA.
A stoppage vrs decision win isn't a measure of ability.

Conor had no resistance to the choke, he could have at least tried to push khabibs arms up over his face, he just accepted it. It looked like he went towards khabibs hands once to try separate his grip but changed his mind.

And that's a simplistic view of jiu jitsu. It's natural, to think to easy to just do X or Y. But it's a different story when you're drowning.

Too much yes men around who are very unlikely to put him in a choke.

I've no doubt that some lads in the are entourage playing the yes man to gain favour. But you're mad if you think brown and black belt training partners are going easy on the mats.