2015 AFL Season Discussion

SSK · 14-04-2015 2:36am

Mackman wrote: »

Its amazing how far backwards they have gone. I really thought they could be fighting for a top 8 spot this year. Still only round 2 obviously.

Jeez how good were Freo? Fyfe, Mundy, Barlow and Hill carved Geelong up into tiny pieces. Magnificent to watch

And how about GWS's incredible second half? Finals bound, I'm telling you

Hard to read too much into 2 rounds of football but Sydney for me have been the standout side. Buddy and Tippett laying 16 tackles between them tells me they're very much up for it this year.

Hardwick and Malthouse will be doing well to last the year, just don't see where the improvement is going to come from either side.

Mackman · 14-04-2015 3:05am

SSK wrote: »

And how about GWS's incredible second half? Finals bound, I'm telling you

They need to play more than a half of football against better sides than Melbourne

SSK wrote: »

Hardwick and Malthouse will be doing well to last the year, just don't see where the improvement is going to come from either side.

Is it Malthouse's fault or is it the fact that they just don't have the talent? Either way I reckon he'll be gone. Kennedy should not have gotten that much space in the F50 for most of the game. Terrible coaching.

Richmond will probably win the last 8 games of the year again and Hardwick will look like he's getting somewhere, again

SSK · 14-04-2015 5:03am

Mackman wrote: »

They need to play more than a half of football against better sides than Melbourne

Yeah but what a half :cool:

Is it Malthouse's fault or is it the fact that they just don't have the talent? Either way I reckon he'll be gone. Kennedy should not have gotten that much space in the F50 for most of the game. Terrible coaching.

Richmond will probably win the last 8 games of the year again and Hardwick will look like he's getting somewhere, again

Carlton have a poor list, no denying that but some players seem to be playing well below their capabilities, which is on the coach.

While I'm not a huge fan of Buckley as a coach, we at least look like we're trying out there. Every Collingwood player bust a gut against Adelaide but we were outclassed in the end up. The same can't be said for Carlton, or indeed Richmond.

Mackman · 14-04-2015 7:33am

SSK wrote: »

Yeah but what a half :cool:

Certainly was impressive

SSK wrote: »

Carlton have a poor list, no denying that but some players seem to be playing well below their capabilities, which is on the coach.

While I'm not a huge fan of Buckley as a coach, we at least look like we're trying out there. Every Collingwood player bust a gut against Adelaide but we were outclassed in the end up. The same can't be said for Carlton, or indeed Richmond.

Or Gold Coast. I agree about Collingwood, at least they looked like they cared.

huddler · 17-04-2015 12:17am

I backed Malthouse to the hilt, but even I'm starting to waver. Brett Ratten was torched by the players, who just failed to turn up for him consistently. Guys like Betts, Garlett and Waite were major offenders, so im taking all the abuse about letting them go with a pinch of salt. However, it looks like the players just aren't showing up for Mick either. He's never won a game at Carlton earlier than Rd 4. It's been almost impossible to enjoy a season since he's arrived because you're 0 and 3, and playing catch up with shot confidence. I don't necessarily blame Mick. I blame other things ahead of him at least....not least the culture of the onfield leadership. I think (Simpson, Judd excepted) we're soft, casual, and lack a genuine hunger to win consistently. We also lack mongrel, dig, a bit of anger, whatever you want to call it. Guys like Murphy, Gibbs, Jamison, Henderson, Yarran....and latterly Menzel - seem shy of leading. Real leading. Leading with guts, and boiling blood. Why is that? Possibly, it's because they have come through a club without similar leaders. Judd was a transplant, but regardless he's more a leader by example and professionalism, than an inspirer who makes others want to go to battle with him. He almost seems a reluctant leader himself. I don't think any team can succeed without serious onfield leaders in a brutal competition like AFL. Culture, recruiting, it all plays a part too, but it's been my feeling for a while that our most-talented players unfortunately don't carry the type of winners mentality that is an absolute imperative when it comes to winning, and to making teammates walk taller. Not an easy thing to fix, and Malthouse may be about to fall to it, like Ratten did.

MANUTD99 · 18-04-2015 9:51pm

Port get their first win. Some big hits in the game. Completely humiliated last week by Swans. Can take heart from today's win as lost this game last year. Bloody Hawks next week though now

Carlton look horrific with 3 games gone in. I've seen 2 of their games now

bruschi · 18-04-2015 9:57pm

MANUTD99 wrote: »

Port get their first win. Some big hits in the game. Completely humiliated last week by Swans. Can take heart from today's win as lost this game last year. Bloody Hawks next week though now

Carlton look horrific with 3 games gone in. I've seen 2 of their games now

great win for Port. Was an excellent game. Caught some of the Carlton one, and whilst they made a bit of effort in the 4th, it never looked like they would actually win it. Sydeny and GWS was a usual game where the better team was just doing enough to win. But the Port/Roos game was really good. Great intensity and really back and forth.

MANUTD99 · 19-04-2015 2:16pm

bruschi wrote: »

great win for Port. Was an excellent game. Caught some of the Carlton one, and whilst they made a bit of effort in the 4th, it never looked like they would actually win it. Sydeny and GWS was a usual game where the better team was just doing enough to win. But the Port/Roos game was really good. Great intensity and really back and forth.

Yeah really enjoyable game. A must win for Power though.Ryder will be a big player this year for Port. Thought he won the battle against his counterpart (Goldstein?) in the ruck.

bruschi · 19-04-2015 3:46pm

utterly shambolic display from the Eagles. That cringing "the West is ours" motto is really embarrassing when you have results like that. 30 points was more than flattering.

Mackman · 20-04-2015 1:21am

bruschi wrote: »

utterly shambolic display from the Eagles. That cringing "the West is ours" motto is really embarrassing when you have results like that. 30 points was more than flattering.

I was expecting a much closer game. Derbies are usually 50/50 IMO. The eagles looked like they had made their mind up that the Dockers would win before the game even started.

From a Dockers point of view, first quarter was insane. Awesome stuff. Lachie Neale is going to be a superstar.

A bit disappointing that they took the foot of the pedal so much, easing up is one thing, but it looked like they left the stadium after half time.

MANUTD99 · 26-04-2015 1:13am

Jesus, I had to fast forward that last quarter of the Power game.Couldn't watch!!. From being in front by 57 to just winning by 8. Got over the line in the end.

Question for folks who are watching more footy than me. Is there a better kicker in front of goal from a mark/free than Jay Schulz? The chap is unbelievable at kicking. On the money everytime

shanemkelly · 27-04-2015 10:05am

I see Wayne Carey has gone with a rumour that Malthouse won't be coaching Carlton for too long after the Pies game on Friday. Time will tell...

Not sure if I'd be surprised or not...

In other news, Freo top of the ladder

:cool:

shanemkelly · 28-04-2015 9:07am

...and has Bryce Gibbs let the cat out of the bag implying a win against the Pies would be a great "send off" for Malthouse? Yes, he retracted it after & laughed it off later on twitter, so maybe it was just a slip of the tongue... maybe...

In other news, Colin Sylvia :rolleyes:

UPDATE: Malthouse, in response to "Will you be coaching at the end of the year?"; "I sincerely hope so"...
Rrrrrright... that's that cleared up then, isn't it?

Real FM · 28-04-2015 10:14am

Congrats on making the Wolf Pack Shane!

shanemkelly · 28-04-2015 11:03am

Real FM wrote: »

Congrats on making the Wolf Pack Shane!

Oh yes - the highest honour in my career! :P

MANUTD99 · 04-05-2015 3:02am

Just seen a little bit of the Magpies/Blues game from Friday.

Watched all the Port/Crows game.Paddy Ryder is going to be huge for The Power.Robbie Gray back to the team also. Racking up huge points but letting them in also. Last 3 wins the opposition still managed to kick 90+ points.

What happened in Sydney? Haven't seen any games from the Bulldogs this season but they were poison last year. What's happened to that team?

Mackman · 04-05-2015 3:22am

MANUTD99 wrote: »

Haven't seen any games from the Bulldogs this season but they were poison last year. What's happened to that team?

New captain, new coach, new belief, and a bunch of talented kids. They are playing some great football which exciting to watch. Oh and they have Bontompelli

It was a great game on Saturday, I had tipped Sydney, (as most did I think) but I was shouting on the Doggies all game. Fantastic stuff.

It was a real pity that Carlton couldn't put up a better effort for Malthouse on Friday night. Carlton are making everyone they play look awesome. A complete clean out is needed at that club. Disaster from top to bottom.

As for Freo, top of the ladder, 5-0 first time in our history. So good so far

SSK · 05-05-2015 1:15am

Can't argue with Freo's start Mackman, they look very impressive. Mayne back to his best, Neale gone to another level and Taberner taking some of the pressure off Pav. As always though, I worry about their depth, particularly if McPharlin, Pav or Sandi get injured. All looking good so far though.

I was at the game on Friday night and Carlton were woeful. Just completely lacking in pace and run, as well as hunger for the contest. All of which would be bad enough if they were a highly skilled team but they have some awful players running around. It says a lot when they're in desperate need of two Irish rookies to get fit so that they can increase the skill level in the team.

Collingwood are in good form but we've beaten three bottom 4 teams and a flagging Essendon so I don't think anyone is getting carried away yet. Geelong on Friday night will be a good indicator of whether we are realistic finals contenders this year.

SSK · 05-05-2015 1:23am

MANUTD99 wrote: »

What happened in Sydney? Haven't seen any games from the Bulldogs this season but they were poison last year. What's happened to that team?

Enthusiasm, game plan, skill level, pace. The Doggies have all of the above at the moment and it's great to watch. It's debatable whether they'll be able to keep it going but they've had a tricky draw to start with and they are 4-1 so no reason why they can't go on with it. What make the Sydney win even more impressive is that they did it without their defensive linchpin Dale Morris. I'm on the bandwagon anyway, I find them great to watch.

bruschi · 05-05-2015 8:36am

Mackman wrote: »

New captain, new coach, new belief, and a bunch of talented kids. They are playing some great football which exciting to watch. Oh and they have Bontompelli

It was a great game on Saturday, I had tipped Sydney, (as most did I think) but I was shouting on the Doggies all game. Fantastic stuff.

It was a real pity that Carlton couldn't put up a better effort for Malthouse on Friday night. Carlton are making everyone they play look awesome. A complete clean out is needed at that club. Disaster from top to bottom.

As for Freo, top of the ladder, 5-0 first time in our history. So good so far

:mad: dont make me infract you for posting spam!

Freo looking good alright. They had a tough enough opening series, so to get through with 5 wins is an excellent start. Hawthorn are still the one for me to watch. And I also think Port Adelaide come finals will be above them too, but I think the gap is shortening at the top. Sydney are proving that.

Mick will surely be gone soon. It's easy to say from afar that a manager has lost his dressing room, but there doesnt seem to be any effort or fight from Carlton, and thats the most worrying thing. As I said before, I think Malthouses tactics are poor and from a different era and dont work now, but that alone is not what is costing them.

Port really are looking good too. Quality young side, and I'd expect them to win a premiership in the very near future.

bruschi · 08-05-2015 11:17am

The Josh Kennedy story this week was mental. Elbow injury. Out for a few games. Elbow surgery, out for months. Serious surgery, done for the year. Elbow sprain named to play this week. The media there is crazy and can pretty much say whatever they want.

typical that they have the Eagles game on TV here this week, when they will probably get battered all the way from Adelaide back up to Perth.

bruschi · 09-05-2015 1:28pm

Shock of the season so far, with GWS beating Hawthorn. Super win for them. Considering the battering a weakened west coast gave them last week, I wasn't expecting them to be close, never mind winning!

MANUTD99 · 10-05-2015 4:12pm

fcuk off Eagles:mad:. I'm delighted Port are not on telly next week. What a **** show!! Avoid twitter and internet all day and then sit down to watch that garbage!!

bruschi · 10-05-2015 4:30pm

MANUTD99 wrote: »

fcuk off Eagles:mad:. I'm delighted Port are not on telly next week. What a **** show!! Avoid twitter and internet all day and then sit down to watch that garbage!!

wooo hooo!!!!

:p:p:pac:

but in all honesty, that is a massive win for West Coast. I hope this isnt another false dawn like 3 years ago, but if the side can keep progressing like this, especially the young players like McGovern, then the future may not be as bad as predicted, especially considering the top players missing for the Eagles right now.

Mackman · 11-05-2015 12:56am

I must say, the Eagles looked good. Pressure, skills were good, but jeez, Port were bad. Is it the comedown after the "showdown"?

Edit: my tipping has fallen to pieces

SSK · 11-05-2015 2:28am

Mackman wrote: »

I must say, the Eagles looked good. Pressure, skills were good, but jeez, Port were bad. Is it the comedown after the "showdown"?

Edit: my tipping has fallen to pieces

Join the club, think I'm averaging about 4 right per week

Have to say, I didn't see that performance coming from the Eagles, particularly in Adelaide so fair play. Shuey is the key for them, any time he plays well they are there or thereabouts.

Collingwood were putrid in the first quarter Friday night and ok after that. We really need to inject some more class (Tony Armstrong, really??) into the team as we struggle to play through teams when matched for intensity. Hopefully Scharenberg, Freeman and De Goey can establish themselves in the second half of the season and Seedsman can come back and continue his good form.

Still time for everyone to join me on the Giants bandwagon :pac:

bruschi · 11-05-2015 8:48am

yeah Shuey has the ability, but not the consistency, to be a top class player. If he can shake off the tagger and be more consistent, it would go a long way to the Eagles being a top 8 team. Priddis is what he is, and wont change, gets on a lot of ball and gets rid of a lot of ball. Where it goes or what happens with it is anyones guess, but it's his supporting class of players that need to improve that midfield. Masten is another one who showed potential but has never really delivered. And Wellingham has been a serious disappointment since he arrived. I've been impressed enough with Yeo though. Plays some very tough footy and gets on a good bot of ball too. Some of the younger guys coming through will be the long term replacements on some of that midfield.

and yeah, my picks have been horrendous this year!

MANUTD99 · 17-05-2015 1:38pm

Who cut the power?? They were just teasing me last year!! What a **** show. Glad it wasn't on the box.

What about the Bombers/Kangaroo's game?

jackbhoy · 24-05-2015 10:18am

Great win for Tiges.

Ugly game but great to see Richmond going hard at contest and really aggressive tackling. That was what we were completely lacking in first 6 games.

SSK · 25-05-2015 7:09am

jackbhoy wrote: »

Great win for Tiges.

Ugly game but great to see Richmond going hard at contest and really aggressive tackling. That was what we were completely lacking in first 6 games.

Deledio has made a huge difference since he's come back but Richmond are still a 6-10 team for me until they improve their bottom 6 or 7 players, still carrying too many passengers.

God only knows what's happened to Port, it's easy to blame complacency but at this stage that excuse doesn't really wash. Losing to West Coast, Brisbane and Richmond in consecutive weeks is form that could see them miss finals which would be unbelievable considering pre-season expectations.

Jesse Hogan is a damn freak, no twenty year old key forward should be dominating physically to the extent that he has.

jackbhoy · 25-05-2015 11:05am

SSK wrote: »

Deledio has made a huge difference since he's come back but Richmond are still a 6-10 team for me until they improve their bottom 6 or 7 players, still carrying too many passengers.

Yep Lids is massively important for us.

I think Tiges are 6-8 side alright. Tbh I'd be happy to finish 8th and win a final with current list. Looking around the league this year I think the only game most teams would write off as a no-hoper would be Freo at home. Everyone else looks beatable.

Mackman · 26-05-2015 6:38am

Mick's gone. I don't know how musch it will help Carlton, my guess is not too much. But it's a start.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-26/carlton-sacks-malthouse-as-coach

jackbhoy · 26-05-2015 7:05am

Mackman wrote: »

Mick's gone. I don't know how musch it will help Carlton, my guess is not too much. But it's a start.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-26/carlton-sacks-malthouse-as-coach

Carlton dragged this out way too long. One good thing is the bloody flogs of players who have been hiding behind all abuse aimed at MM will now get attention they deserve. Disgraceful lack of effort and heart by them over last month.

bruschi · 26-05-2015 12:20pm

jackbhoy wrote: »

Carlton dragged this out way too long. One good thing is the bloody flogs of players who have been hiding behind all abuse aimed at MM will now get attention they deserve. Disgraceful lack of effort and heart by them over last month.

yeah there is enough talent there for them to be far higher down last place. As much as the players havent made the effort, and there should be an element of blame laid at their door, it is ultimately up to the coach to get the best out of his side. Mick was a long way away from doing that, and that have really got worse with each passing season.

seipeal1 · 03-06-2015 2:10pm

jackbhoy wrote: »

Yep Lids is massively important for us.

I think Tiges are 6-8 side alright. Tbh I'd be happy to finish 8th and win a final with current list. Looking around the league this year I think the only game most teams would write off as a no-hoper would be Freo at home. Everyone else looks beatable.

Richmond playing in Perth this weekend will be a great test for them.

I was at the Adelaide Oval last weekend. It was a great game. I thought Adelaide were the better team on the night and the conditions suited them better. But it all about the final score.
Fyfe v Dangerfield was awesome, the game was exciting and close all the way through. Fair play to Freo.
Jeez, they are a big team. It looked like men against boys as the teams warmed up. Fyfe is a freak. Not sure how you can play against him. Looking forward to seeing how an in form team play against Freo in Perth. Still. Think it will make no difference.
Can only see Hawthorne, Sydney or Port knocking off Freo this year.

Probably the Crows best game in the last year. Betts is becoming a real hero.

Hopefully the guys coming back in the next few weeks will give a boost for the second half of the season and lead us to finals football.

jackbhoy · 03-06-2015 11:09pm

seipeal1 wrote: »

Richmond playing in Perth this weekend will be a great test for them.

I was at the Adelaide Oval last weekend. It was a great game. I thought Adelaide were the better team on the night and the conditions suited them better. But it all about the final score.
Fyfe v Dangerfield was awesome, the game was exciting and close all the way through. Fair play to Freo.
Jeez, they are a big team. It looked like men against boys as the teams warmed up. Fyfe is a freak. Not sure how you can play against him. Looking forward to seeing how an in form team play against Freo in Perth. Still. Think it will make no difference.
Can only see Hawthorne, Sydney or Port knocking off Freo this year.

Probably the Crows best game in the last year. Betts is becoming a real hero.

Hopefully the guys coming back in the next few weeks will give a boost for the second half of the season and lead us to finals football.

Can't see Tiges getting up against Freo, in Freo. Hopefully they give it a crack though.

It's an interesting season so far. Hawks look all over the place but they can sneak into top 4 and make a GF I'd still back them to win it on the day. Outside of Freo nobody is really playing particularly well. Eagles are going well but they have a dream draw and I'd be surprised if they were contenders in September.

Fyfe is really superb and a great replacement as Supercoach captain in Ablett's abscence as well

SSK · 04-06-2015 3:07am

jackbhoy wrote: »

Can't see Tiges getting up against Freo, in Freo. Hopefully they give it a crack though.

It's an interesting season so far. Hawks look all over the place but they can sneak into top 4 and make a GF I'd still back them to win it on the day. Outside of Freo nobody is really playing particularly well. Eagles are going well but they have a dream draw and I'd be surprised if they were contenders in September.

Fyfe is really superb and a great replacement as Supercoach captain in Ablett's abscence as well

Freo are definites for a Top 2 at this stage you would have to say. Sydney will definitely be Top 4 and you would expect the Hawks to go on a run in the second half of the year to comfortably make the 4 as well.

Hard to know who will get the last 4 spot. WC have looked the best of the rest but are a Kennedy or McGovern injury away from struggling IMO. They should make the 8 but it's hard to know if they can keep their early season form going.

Very difficult to assess the other 4 spots. On early season form GWS and Adelaide look the most likely but Port are definitely the best team of the bunch and you'd expect them to pick up in the second half. Obviously I'd like to see Collingwood keep it up but after Melbourne in the QB game we have a shocking run playing GWS, Freo, Port, Hawthorn and WC in consecutive weeks.

bruschi · 04-06-2015 8:58am

SSK wrote: »

Freo are definites for a Top 2 at this stage you would have to say. Sydney will definitely be Top 4 and you would expect the Hawks to go on a run in the second half of the year to comfortably make the 4 as well.

Hard to know who will get the last 4 spot. WC have looked the best of the rest but are a Kennedy or McGovern injury away from struggling IMO. They should make the 8 but it's hard to know if they can keep their early season form going.

Very difficult to assess the other 4 spots. On early season form GWS and Adelaide look the most likely but Port are definitely the best team of the bunch and you'd expect them to pick up in the second half. Obviously I'd like to see Collingwood keep it up but after Melbourne in the QB game we have a shocking run playing GWS, Freo, Port, Hawthorn and WC in consecutive weeks.

I can see Freo retaining top spot, they have that bit of a cushion now already, and some of the other top sides have lost a few games against weaker sides.

The Eagles season was over when they lost MacKenzie. then it was over when they lost Brown. It was a bad start to be without Darling. It made it worse to also be without Selwood. Yet they are still going. I'm surprised at it to be honest, and I'd be happy if they hung on there in the 8, nevermind top 4. the progression of the midfield has been the biggest thing IMO. Gaff, Shuey, Masten all finally delivering, Yeo has been excellent, and then Duggan coming in as a rookie lighting it up. Signs are good longterm at least, but I also said that in 2012 after finishing top 4 and then completely falling off the radar the following year.

Port are certainly good enough to get back in the reckoning. better to have a blip now than at the end of the year. It'll be an almighty scrap for the last couple of finals placings, essendon, collingwood, Adelaide, Richmond, North (if they get their act together) and GWS who have been really impressive.

SSK · 02-07-2015 11:48pm

Tragic news about Phil Walsh this morning, just a terrible waste of life and a massive loss to the Adelaide football club and the AFL in general.

RIP & condolences to his family and friends.

bruschi · 03-07-2015 9:03am

SSK wrote: »

Tragic news about Phil Walsh this morning, just a terrible waste of life and a massive loss to the Adelaide football club and the AFL in general.

RIP & condolences to his family and friends.

huge shock, especially considering the circumstances. His son has been arrested and charged.

bruschi · 25-08-2015 2:55pm

been awfully quiet in here over the season, no surprise I suppose as the West Coast teams being top doesnt garner the same interest from the Victoria biased media...;):p

anyway, it looks like the Dockers and Eagles have the top 2 sorted. If the Eagles can win in Adelaide this week, it will set up a very interesting last round where Freo have to go to Port, and Eagles home to St Kilda.

Either way, it probably makes little difference, as I reckon the Hawks have to go to Subiaco in any case, whether it is against WCE or Freo, and more than likely play the other one in another finals game. I am shocked at the level WC are maintaining, I thought their season was shot with the key defenders being injured, but they have really turned it around and proved many people wrong.

shanemkelly · 14-09-2015 12:20pm

So, West Coast now outright favourites after Finals Week 1 - justifiably so too. They were magnificent against the Hawks... and with Priddis et al to come back in!

My beloved Dockers did just about enough but looked anything but confident throughout. Again, scoring is a big issue. Only consolation from the two Qualifying Finals is that we won't have to play the Eagles at Subi in a Prelim :eek:

Richmond were Richmond again. How many of their big guns failed to turn up!?! Cotchin was putrid, Delidio wasn't a whole lot better.
Am tipping Norf to upset the Swannies but to fall apart against the Eagles (like 2 or 3 years ago).

Really enjoyed the Crows v Dogs game. Crows could easily surprise the Hawks in their Semi-Final but I still reckon the Hawks will win. It depends on how they pull up after that game, but it'll take a big effort to get over them in the Prelim, even at Domain Stadium...

bruschi · 15-09-2015 7:48pm

Most of the talk I have seen since the Eagles win was how poor Hawthorn were, skill wise, tactically etc. Bits and pieces about the Eagles defensive web and how they did well. But its funny for a team to be favorites, yet people still talk about the Hawks as being the team to beat.

MANUTD99 · 20-09-2015 2:01am

Well done to the Kangaroos. Really enjoyed watching the game. As mentioned by the commentator its the first time a 8 placed team has made it to a prelim

Personally I'd love to see one of the WA teams win the grand final. Maybe Dockers. Only because they played so badly in their last outing in a grand final. Would be great to see Eagles v Dockers in the final too. Break up the monopoly of Victoria teams winning

Goodes retires also. Haven't really understood the treatment he has been receiving from opposition fans. Great player

MANUTD99 · 26-09-2015 9:14pm

Just into Q3 of Eagles/Kangaroos game. Don't care who wins, Hawthorn will win this overall. The amount of goals being missed by both teams in this game. Hawks must be very confident

MANUTD99 · 27-09-2015 1:27pm

I reckon a huge defeat will be put on Eagles next week. Watched their pre -lim yesterday and was less than impressed. So many kick-able goals were fluffed either side of the goal.

bruschi · 28-09-2015 8:33am

Whilst I dont expect the Eagles to win, I wouldnt be writing off their chances just yet. They have already beaten Hawthorn in these finals, and comfortably too. And in their previous game, in horrible conditions without their 2 ruckmen, they lost narrowly, so there is nothing for them to fear in Hawthorn. They have been playing well all year, and bar the first quarter against the roos, were in control from there on out once they got their own structure right. That may be what was needed as the kick in the hole for complacency. Hawthorn have all the experience and will be favorites, but I dont expect them to win by much.

bruschi · 03-10-2015 8:52am

And that ends that. Hawthorn were excellent and eagles never showed up at all. The difference between experience of the big day occasion really showed.

Tigerandahalf · 03-10-2015 9:45am

Didn't follow as much this year.
Great win for Hawthorn. Is that 3 in 4/5 years now?

shanemkelly · 03-10-2015 10:10am

Yep, that's 3 in-a-row. They were beaten by Sydney in the 2012 GF too (I think), so that's 4 GFs in 4 years for 3 wins... and Clarko's 4th flag as coach (2008 & 2013-2015).
Amazing feat really. The Hawks are some footy club.

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