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39 people found dead in trailer in UK

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    #92
    knipex
    Registered Users Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭knipex


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Roundabout way and 4 passes through customs/random checks sounds incredibly risky but yes, that is one way.

    Wouldn't the only customs check be where the truck crossed the EU border. After that all the driver would have to do is show his passport ??


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    #93
    derrymcorry
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    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Its a mistake, I doubt the UK police are trying to claim Monaghan. Don't be so stupid.

    It's a pretty big (and serious) mistake.


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    #94
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Graces7 wrote: »
    The sheer scale of the traffic going through makes a check on every vehicle not feasible
    Agree, while the media headlined the 80 or so folks (mainly from Iran) making their way across the channel in kayaks, dingys and so on, this is a drop in the ocean, compared to haulage which likely continues largely unnoticed (except for incidents such as today).


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    #95
    Atlantic Dawn
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    knipex wrote: »
    Wouldn't the only customs check be where the truck crossed the EU border. After that all the driver would have to do is show his passport ??

    Could have been checked for people smuggling, drugs, contraband etc at any crossing.

    Drug smugglers must be getting lots through if 39 people on a truck were undetected, would mean no x-ray or check inside at all at any stage.


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    #96
    knipex
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    derrymcorry wrote: »
    There are two serious aspects of this case:

    1. The fact that 39 people are dead in the back of a lorry.

    2. The fact that Essex Police has said that the driver was from Northern Ireland when in fact he was from County Monaghan. This is a British police force suggesting a territorial claim over a part of another country and it is a monumental disgrace.

    Sweet Jeebus. cop on just a little bit..


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    #97
    Salary Negotiator
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    derrymcorry wrote: »
    It's a pretty big (and serious) mistake.

    RTE are reporting that a man from Northern Ireland has been arrested.

    Get over it.
    The bodies of 39 people have been found in a container at an industrial park in the UK and a 25-year-old man from Northern Ireland has been arrested on suspicion of murder.

    Link


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    #98
    sk8erboii
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Could have been checked for people smuggling, drugs, contraband etc at any crossing.

    Drug smugglers must be getting lots through if 39 people on a truck were undetected, would mean no x-ray or check inside at all at any stage.

    X ray LOL


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    #99
    derrymcorry
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭derrymcorry


    knipex wrote: »
    Sweet Jeebus. cop on just a little bit..

    Good pun.

    I'm just making the point that it is quite a mistake.

    If Drew Harris or Charlie Flanagan said that Essex was part of France what would be said?


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    #100
    Harry Palmr
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    derrymcorry wrote: »
    It's a pretty big (and serious) mistake.


    Have you considered the merits of a long walk on a short pier.

    This forum is a total cesspit of cranks.


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    #101
    knipex
    Registered Users Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭knipex


    derrymcorry wrote: »
    Good pun.

    I'm just making the point that it is quite a mistake.

    If Drew Harris or Charlie Flanagan said that Essex was part of France what would be said?


    39 people died and your more worried about a perceived insult from someone not having an encyclopedic knowledge of Irish Geography and county layout..

    get a grip.
    derrymcorry wrote: »
    Priti Patel also said that he was from Northern Ireland.

    COUNTY MONAGHAN IS IN THE REPUBLIC YOU STUPID WOMAN!

    Rant over.

    Grow up


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    #102
    Gatling
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    This proves Europe needs secure border checks in every country ,
    It's tragedy the could have been prevented
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    #103
    Plumbthedepths
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    knipex wrote: »
    39 people died and your more worried about a perceived insult from someone not having an encyclopedic knowledge of Irish Geography and county layout..

    get a grip.

    Probably best not to feed it at this stage. 39 people lost their lives and someone decides it's a good place to troll .


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    #104
    Spanish Eyes
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    Ignore button is your friend. Just saying don't feed em.


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    #105
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Could have been checked for people smuggling, drugs, contraband etc at any crossing.

    Drug smugglers must be getting lots through if 39 people on a truck were undetected, would mean no x-ray or check inside at all at any stage.

    only two mobile x ray machines in this country for all the ports


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    #106
    derrymcorry
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    BBC Newsline are now saying he's from Northern Ireland!! Paul Reynolds said on RTÉ that he has been informed he was from County Monaghan. I'll just state this for the British media at large:

    THE DRIVER OF THE LORRY IS FROM COUNTY MONAGHAN!! COUNTY MONAGHAN IS PART OF ROI AND WILL SOON BE PART OF A FULL UNITED IRELAND!

    That is all I'll say on this.


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    #107
    BorneTobyWilde
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    This is not a case of someone trying this for the first time and getting caught. Usually it's the case they are caught after 100- 500 loads of people have been moved.
    Something went wrong this time,


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    #108
    BorneTobyWilde
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    Who owns the truck, is it an Irish truck, what is reg.


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    #109
    ZiabR
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    derrymcorry wrote: »
    The fact they said he was from Northern Ireland when he was in fact from County Monaghan. This is an illegal territorial claim as they made out that County Monaghan was in NI.

    Isn't it bad enough they have the Six Counties?

    Can't quite make out if you are trolling this thread or being serious... I mean, this is 2019, every one of your posts is deflecting from the poor people who died in the back of that lorry and all you can do is keep going on about territorial claims and referring to people as "brits". Would you cop on, and show a bit more maturity.

    RIP to the people who lost their lives in a horrendous way.


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    #110
    MadYaker
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    If I was a truck driver anywhere in Europe I’d be opening every trailer to see what’s inside before towing it anywhere.

    Why are these migrants so focused on getting to the UK? It’s not the most generous welfare state in Europe. Ireland, Germany or the Netherlands would all be smarter options if they’re looking to freeload but you get fcuk all as an illegal anyway. I’d wager most of them were young men looking for work.


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    #111
    derrymcorry
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    ZiabR wrote: »
    Can't quite make out if you are trolling this thread or being serious... I mean, this is 2019, every one of your posts is deflecting from the poor people who died in the back of that lorry and all you can do is keep going on about territorial claims and referring to people as "brits". Would you cop on, and show a bit more maturity.

    RIP to the people who lost their lives in a horrendous way.

    I'm being serious.

    I'm a republican and I thought this point needed to be made so I've made it and I'll leave it at that.


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    #112
    Sir Oxman
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    I have a feeling that truck and trailer travelled only from Ireland to the UK.


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    #113
    Spanish Eyes
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    Sorry and I mean no offence, but I am a bit puzzled as to how people get into the trucks.

    I thought they were customs sealed at port of exit, and apparently checked at that point, but maybe that's hit and miss.

    Surely on arrival a tampered seal would lead to immediate investigation.

    I'm not sure how it all works. Maybe someone else does.


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    #114
    katiek102010
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    Read somewhere on the UK news it was a container picked up by the driver in Belfast.

    It's standard procedure to arrest the driver.

    I feel so sorry for all involved in this discovery and Rip to the poor victims.

    It looks like a refrigated unit too. All trucks should be xrayed and CM tested through every port


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    #115
    derrymcorry
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭derrymcorry


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Who owns the truck, is it an Irish truck, what is reg.

    It's a Bulgarian-reg Irish-owned Scania.


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    #116
    lawred2
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    derrymcorry wrote: »
    Priti Patel also said that he was from Northern Ireland.

    COUNTY MONAGHAN IS IN THE REPUBLIC YOU STUPID WOMAN!

    Rant over.

    It's possible he was born in NI but living in Monaghan no?

    Either way, not really the most crucial detail


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    #117
    BorneTobyWilde
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    Distinctive truck, must be easy to locate who owns it .


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    #118
    AllForIt
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    MadYaker wrote: »
    If I was a truck driver anywhere in Europe I’d be opening every trailer to see what’s inside before towing it anywhere.

    You would think that would be something the driver would be charged with doing, and take a pic while they're at it. Although I don't know how easy it is to visually inspect large containers if it was full.
    Why are these migrants so focused on getting to the UK? It’s not the most generous welfare state in Europe. Ireland, Germany or the Netherlands would all be smarter options if they’re looking to freeload but you get fcuk all as an illegal anyway. I’d wager most of them were young men looking for work.

    I'd imagine that because the UK is already highly multicultural in many areas they would blend in without being noticed. One reason anyway.


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    #119
    NIMAN
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    Every news article I have read is still saying he's from NI.

    Where did the Monaghan thing come from?


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    #120
    ohnonotgmail
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    MadYaker wrote: »
    If I was a truck driver anywhere in Europe I’d be opening every trailer to see what’s inside before towing it anywhere.

    Why are these migrants so focused on getting to the UK? It’s not the most generous welfare state in Europe. Ireland, Germany or the Netherlands would all be smarter options if they’re looking to freeload but you get fcuk all as an illegal anyway. I’d wager most of them were young men looking for work.

    If a truck is found with illegals onboard at a ferry port the driver is fined.


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    #121
    James Brown
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    It's terrible to think that people are so desperate for the chance at a better life. We might over stay our visa in the states or need leave because it's recession time again, but these poor people are at a different level.
    I hope they root out the chain of criminals and don't stop with the driver.


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