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Championship and Covid

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    #2582
    TCDStudent1
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Let's hope the leagues start the end of Feb. Training won't begin til the first week of Feb now and some teams could be pretty rusty for the first few games

    Not a hope of crowds been allowed in and we will get all the games streamed on GAAGO along with TG4/Eir and RTE etc


    The article from the Independent yesterday suggests they are still a bit 'up in the air'


    https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/calls-grow-for-national-league-to-be-scrapped-with-gaa-facing-loss-of-17m-39958651.html


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    #2583
    wirelessdude01
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    Think there is a huge chance that the league's won't happen this year.


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    #2584
    PTH2009
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    Could be a very quite GAA season for 2021, something personally i didn't think would happen

    Some intercounty teams will only have 2 games all year if the league is scrapped


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    #2585
    roadmaster
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Could be a very quite GAA season for 2021, something personally i didn't think would happen

    Some intercounty teams will only have 2 games all year if the league is scrapped

    I know they want to put club first but could they not play the leagues in late summer when hopefully we will start to emerge from this covid hell and the championship knockout in the winter again. I loved the knockout and watching the Sunday game in winter when there wasn't much on


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    #2586
    PTH2009
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    roadmaster wrote: »
    I know they want to put club first but could they not play the leagues in late summer when hopefully we will start to emerge from this covid hell and the championship knockout in the winter again. I loved the knockout and watching the Sunday game in winter when there wasn't much on

    Id say there regredding a little bit that they agreed on the intercounty first and club 2nd esp with the way things are after turning out. They want the Club Provincials and All Irelands to happen this time round. Scrapping the National Leagues would be an horrendous decision. Localise all divisions in the Hurling like they did in the football for this year only

    Truth is nobody has a clue what will happen this year in all walks of life


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    #2587
    TCDStudent1
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Id say there regredding a little bit that they agreed on the intercounty first and club 2nd esp with the way things are after turning out. They want the Club Provincials and All Irelands to happen this time round. Scrapping the National Leagues would be an horrendous decision. Localise all divisions in the Hurling like they did in the football for this year only

    Truth is nobody has a clue what will happen this year in all walks of life


    I think there was logic in their plan though. Level 5 means inter county can actually go ahead. So it made sense to go with that first. Technically, they could actually proceed with the inter county season at the moment. However, it appears they will be restricted with the club scene for some time.


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    #2588
    CrabRevolution
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    I think the GAA organised last year quite well all things considered. I have to give them credit for resisting the temptation to start cramming the calendar full of games when the our Covid prospects looked good; during the summer several people here and in the media were calling for the AI club championships, hurling league knockout stages etc. to be run concurrently with the inter county season and played into January.

    How much of a mess would that have been?


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    #2589
    rrs
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    TCDStudent1 wrote: »
    I think there was logic in their plan though. Level 5 means inter county can actually go ahead. So it made sense to go with that first. Technically, they could actually proceed with the inter county season at the moment. However, it appears they will be restricted with the club scene for some time.

    They could proceed but the numbers are higher then they ever were last year. Plus with the new variant from the UK being a lot more transmissible , it's not that easy. The Inter County is deemed elite but they are Amateurs not professionals in a bubble.


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    #2590
    TCDStudent1
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    rrs wrote: »
    They could proceed but the numbers are higher then they ever were last year. Plus with the new variant from the UK being a lot more transmissible , it's not that easy. The Inter County is deemed elite but they are Amateurs not professionals in a bubble.


    oh I realise that. My point was that scheduling club before county doesn't resolve that issue. I can see why they scheduled it the way they did. Unfortunately, the numbers at the moment make GAA scheduling even more challenging.


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    #2591
    dobman88
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    Yep. The idea of having county before club is its classed as elite and would have significantly less lads out playing. I assume they are hoping things are getting back to normal by the time club season starts in July or August when every player in the country would be out training and playing 3 or 4 times a week.

    Saw today that the GAA are possibly pushing the league start out to late March, early April.

    But definitely makes sense to have county first in spring which frees up late summer and autumn for club and not another terrible winter championship.


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    #2592
    wirelessdude01
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    Yep. The idea of having county before club is its classed as elite and would have significantly less lads out playing. I assume they are hoping things are getting back to normal by the time club season starts in July or August when every player in the country would be out training and playing 3 or 4 times a week.

    Saw today that the GAA are possibly pushing the league start out to late March, early April.

    But definitely makes sense to have county first in spring which frees up late summer and autumn for club and not another terrible winter championship.

    Wonder could we see a further amendment with the league, then club and then a autumn championship? Theory being that they aren't getting any further financial aid from the government to run a championship and as such there is a better chance to have crowds if it is run off later in the year.


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    #2593
    dobman88
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    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Wonder could we see a further amendment with the league, then club and then a autumn championship? Theory being that they aren't getting any further financial aid from the government to run a championship and as such there is a better chance to have crowds if it is run off later in the year.

    Not sure. Depends on what level of restrictions are imposed on us and how vaccine rollout is among the general population. I think for club to be back we need to be restriction free and have a good uptake among players. May not have it set up that well for a club summer. Remember we also have competitions that need to be finished from last season and a few weeks training will be required.

    The only counties I know about are Kerry and Meath and both have a fair few outstanding finals at all grades in football and hurling.


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    #2594
    PTH2009
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    Could we see the leagues been redrawn, 3 teams a group with it been neighbour counties.

    NHL Div 1
    Grp A- Waterford, Wexford, Kilkenny
    Grp B- Cork, Limerick, Tipp
    Grp C- Clare, Galway, Laois
    Grp D- Dublin, Antrim,Westmeath


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    #2595
    PTH2009
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    https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1192185/

    Leagues possibly starting in March now with a whole new master fixture list to be published


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    #2596
    Loafing Oaf
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    Former Carlow manager suggests playing league and championship concurrently to prevent championship being pushed later into the year. Not sure how that would work...

    https://extra.ie/2021/01/27/sport/gaa/turlough-obrien-gaa-can-run-all-ireland-and-allianz-league-concurrently


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    #2597
    bamayang
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    https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/championship-revamp-to-be-deferred-until-later-in-year-for-special-debate-40034270.html

    Is the club/county split season gone off the cards for 2021 now? I know they had said they would push the county season back a month, but is it now a wait and see thing to when is the earliest they can start?


    The new championship format with Provisional in Spring and league into All Ireland in Summer sounds a great format IMO.


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    #2598
    Coillte_Bhoy
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    bamayang wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/championship-revamp-to-be-deferred-until-later-in-year-for-special-debate-40034270.html

    Is the club/county split season gone off the cards for 2021 now? I know they had said they would push the county season back a month, but is it now a wait and see thing to when is the earliest they can start?


    The new championship format with Provisional in Spring and league into All Ireland in Summer sounds a great format IMO.

    Can someone explain what exactly this means?
    Alternatively, the league would revert to the summer and involve All-Ireland championship play-offs with the provincial championships preceding in spring on a round-robin basis.


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    #2599
    PTH2009
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    Are county teams able to train now ? I'd say its fairly frustrating for the management teams and players waiting around to get the green light by the GAA


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    #2600
    wirelessdude01
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Are county teams able to train now ? I'd say its fairly frustrating for the management teams and players waiting around to get the green light by the GAA

    No.


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    #2601
    munster87
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    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    No.

    Are many waiting for a green light I wonder.


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    #2602
    wirelessdude01
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    munster87 wrote: »
    Are many waiting for a green light I wonder.

    I'd guess every single team is after the furore with the ones that got caught.


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    #2603
    wirelessdude01
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    https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/cork-and-down-managers-facing-three-month-bans-for-breach-of-training-guidelines-40040673.html

    Proposed three minth bans for Cork and Down managers plus losing one home game from the league. To only start once things get up and running again,


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    #2604
    munster87
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    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/cork-and-down-managers-facing-three-month-bans-for-breach-of-training-guidelines-40040673.html

    Proposed three minth bans for Cork and Down managers plus losing one home game from the league. To only start once things get up and running again,


    That’s 2 caught so, so far.


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    #2605
    ArielAtom
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    munster87 wrote: »
    That’s 2 caught so, so far.

    So far, I’m sure there are more out there.


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    #2606
    dobman88
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    ArielAtom wrote: »
    So far, I’m sure there are more out there.

    Kildare were the "unnamed leinster county" mentioned a couple of weeks ago but I havent seen exactly what they were supposed to have done or if there will be any sanctions.

    Radio Kerry had an interview with our new ladies captain the other day and she was asked about training and just said they had been given individual programmes to tip away with at home. Obviously that's just the official line to throw out but I'd hope that's the case across the majority of the country tbh.


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    #2607
    Kevhog1988
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    Kildare were the "unnamed leinster county" mentioned a couple of weeks ago but I havent seen exactly what they were supposed to have done or if there will be any sanctions.

    Radio Kerry had an interview with our new ladies captain the other day and she was asked about training and just said they had been given individual programmes to tip away with at home. Obviously that's just the official line to throw out but I'd hope that's the case across the majority of the country tbh.

    Allegedly Kildare were running on the Curragh


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    #2608
    recyclebin
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    Kevhog1988 wrote: »
    Allegedly Kildare were running on the Curragh

    Surely they must have had loads of eye witnesses and GAA would have perused it if that's true. Curragh is fairly wide open area unless they were in army facilities.

    Club window shouldnt be left to county boards either. 3 month suspension for breaching that would be a great deterent.


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    #2609
    ArielAtom
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    Kildare were the "unnamed leinster county" mentioned a couple of weeks ago but I havent seen exactly what they were supposed to have done or if there will be any sanctions.

    Radio Kerry had an interview with our new ladies captain the other day and she was asked about training and just said they had been given individual programmes to tip away with at home. Obviously that's just the official line to throw out but I'd hope that's the case across the majority of the country tbh.

    I’m sure there are more, silly lads. I saw at club level in the 1st lockdown. A club using a public park that would be associated with another club. A club minor team masquerading as a county u20 team and playing the club the county minors in preparation for a county minor final, which has not taken place yet and most likely won’t at this stage.


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    #2610
    rrs
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Are county teams able to train now ? I'd say its fairly frustrating for the management teams and players waiting around to get the green light by the GAA

    15th of February is when they are reviewing the matter. Its a health situation where they are reviewing how the cases will be. I don't see how the GAA can be at fault for that.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0201/1194422-gaa-delays-decision-on-return-to-training-by-two-weeks/


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    #2611
    BloodyBill
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    munster87 wrote: »
    Are many waiting for a green light I wonder.

    Not all teams are straining to get back training. It hasn't been that long since last season. The mood around the Limerick hurlers is they are in no rush back ..


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