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15-12-2014, 21:53   #211
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Are they just saying it to sell news papers?
You hit the nail on the head.
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It is surprising that the Irish Independent should run a front page headline on the polar vortex. It is more common for the red tops like the Mirror or the Star.
You must have missed the last 5 years when the Indo turned red obviously.
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It is surprising that the Irish Independent should run a front page headline on the polar vortex. It is more common for the red tops like the Mirror or the Star.
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This article has been sponsored by the Fuel Suppliers of Ireland.
And who are among the fuel suppliers of Ireland?
Denis O'Brien owns Topaz Oil which supplies home heating oil and, oh wait, he also owns The Irish Independent as part of Irish Independent Media Group...
I only remembered that today. Suddenly a lot of things made sense.

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...who obviously are equally as worried about the current plunge in oil prices and whether or not they will get away with passing it onto the consumer.
Actually fuel suppliers love lower oil prices - pump prices are then lower and people drive more.

Of the current €1.38 average, only 32c +vat is the actual oil price itself. If oil was free, you'd still be paying €1 at the pump. (refining about 8c-12c, distribution & retail about 11c, duties 59.6c & vat 26c).

As for this indo - weather is their daily hysterical headline, but people seem to be joking about it now rather than reading anything into it.
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Irish newspapers are a total joke at this stage. I was horrified to see the FRONT PAGE of the Indo was about might be weather 'predictions'. Surely, this is anything but news and is scaremongering.

The reality is that true extreme weather events such as the 24 December 1997, 26 December 1998 and 12 February 2014 hurricanes and the 27 November 2010-26 December 2010 prolonged snow were not predicted at all. After the 1997 and 1998 events, we were told that hurricanes would become a feature of Irish winters. A lesser such event happened around Christmas 1999 but nothing as bad occurred again until late 2013 and nothing as bad as 1997 or 1998 happened until 2014.

With the current predictions for snow, we are entering into the same old tired scaremongering. 2010 was a once off in a generation event I never saw before. I remember at the time that when it receded late St Stephen's day at the time that it was a 'brief respite' and it would be 'back with a vengeance in January'. It didn't come. Then, it was to be February. Early 2011 in fact turned out very mild. Then, snow was due St Patrick's day. Instead, that day was like summer. Then, snow came around Halloween in the US and we were told winder 2011/12 was going to be 'worse than 2010'! It was a very mild winter. Now, 2012 was mild and moderate. 2013/14 was bad for different reasons (hurricanes). So, now we are due some snow again by the media it seems.

Snow and ice is scary for people who are isolated and have to travel to work. Scaremongering about events that are anything but certain (and probably won't even happen) is stupid and putting it on the front page of a paper is ludicrous. But with the economic bad news waning somewhat and Irish Water loosing its appeal, the papers latch onto the weather again to sell their stupid rags.

What can be predicted: 10 days is the furthest into the future that can be predicted. Even this is a rough idea and may not pan out entirely as predicted. Anyone can predict that the period between now and mid March will bring dry, wet, cold and mild weather. Snow may or may not occur. Same with all types of weather. But cold and mild and wet and dry are certain to feature!
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17-12-2014, 14:03   #216
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You might need to relook the current weather charts & models........
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The reality is that true extreme weather events such as the 24 December 1997, 26 December 1998 and 12 February 2014 hurricanes
It's amazing how little people know about hurricanes. Hurricanes are tropical storms. They can only develop within the tropics, which is about 3500km south of Dublin and they usually lose their hurricane status when they move into the subtropics, which is about 2000km south of Dublin. Hurricanes are more powerful with higher gusts and sustained winds.

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Gave my thoughts on the new weather presenter for UTV Ireland which starts in January. Fair play to her and I have nothing against her whatsoever but...

https://twitter.com/utvireland/statu...40838286389249

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I would rather someone presenting the weather who actually works for a met agency or is at the very least a graduate in meteorology at some level to be perfectly honest.

That is one of RTE's strengths.
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Why? it doesn't take a degree to point at the map and read the autocue

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The BBC and RTE respectively use professional meteorologists in the main from the UK Met Office and Met Eireann. That is why their broadcasts tend to be more interesting and informative than, say, TV3.

Because they know about the complex science that they are presenting and they can parse this information very well for the viewer in a way that is easy to understand but also engages with them and keeps them interested.

But no substance trumps substance these days I guess. It's all dumbing down at the end of the day and it is contemptuous for the audience which (again TV3) assumes that the public are a bit too dim to be able to interpret basic, standard weather charts which I also suspect will be absent.
Don't expect anything TV3 does not offer basically which is not much. It's disappointing in my opinion but not surprising.

I wonder will Met Éireann be providing the data for these forecasts. I don't think they provide it for TV3 though I could be wrong. I know the UK Met Office provides data for UTV in the north.

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feck that, damn it Daily Express i want to know why baby George did not attend the christmas mass.


once again i see the tabloids going for such crazed sensationalist headlines.
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Checking the Met Eireann site clears up the eejits argument.

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Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday: Gradually becoming milder as the high shifts to the east allowing a southerly airflow to develop. Still dry next Tuesday then some rain possible for next Wednesday and New Year's Day in southerly winds and temperatures back to over 10 degrees.
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Weather Beaten 2014 - A Remarkable Year of Irish Weather

Christmas special with John Creedon, Nuala Carey and George Lee looking back at the Weather in 2014

RTÉ One, Monday 29th December, 6.30pm
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Christmas special with John Creedon, Nuala Carey and George Lee looking back at the Weather in 2014

RTÉ One, Monday 29th December, 6.30pm
Was just about to post this.I seem to always find myself watching repeats of weather shows on More4 etc. but there's very little on Irish weather considering how we are usually at the mercy of the Atlantic.
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More4 is now the weather channel!
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