Tampax ad banned

CBear1993 · 30-07-2020 9:29am

sydthebeat wrote: »

Not when she has a daddy like you to show her how to properly insert a tampon so she doesnt have discomfort. I'm sure you already know the ins and outs (pardon the pun)

Weird flex but ok....

Dravokivich · 30-07-2020 9:30am

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Yes dot dot dot it is

All it does is create an echo chamber.

The J Stands for Jay · 30-07-2020 9:32am

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Can’t fast forward them on RTE player for example.

Yeah, but the programme won't play when the ads are done.

KathleenGrant · 30-07-2020 9:34am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

not really justification for banning the ad, is it? should we ban all ads that make you uncomfortable? what a backwards little country we still are.

Please point out to me where I justified or even agreed with banning the ads? I never said that at all.I mentioned that there may be reasons for people's discomfort.
Should we ban ads that make me uncomfortable? Bit of an unfair question and I am annoyed with the inference that I am backward.
Maybe you should read a post a little more before you jump to conclusions about the poster.

Sonics2k · 30-07-2020 9:34am

SuperS54 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X0LpyXMnjg

Just so we know what people are being offended by.

Surely 84 from a population of close to 5 million means almost no one was offended? With those numbers you could get your friends or extended family together and have all advertisements banned.

Wait, that's what people are offended by?

How absolutely pathetic.

ohnonotgmail · 30-07-2020 9:34am

FixitFelix wrote: »

Cancel culture as strong as ever, are people actually that sad and prudish that an ad like this offends them?

Sad sad people

this isn't cancel culture, this is state censorship. Much worse.

AdrianBalboa · 30-07-2020 9:36am

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

This advert was clearly deemed ‘problematic’.

There is nothing "problematic" about menstruating. The women who reported this commercial are suffering from internalised misogyny. I wonder how many of them are equally outraged about the lack of gender quotas?

Wibbs · 30-07-2020 9:36am

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

This, right here, is the capitalist Patriarchy at work.

Rodney Bathgate · 30-07-2020 9:37am

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

There is nothing "problematic" about menstruating. The women who reported this commercial are suffering from internalised misogyny. I wonder how many of them are equally outraged about the lack of gender quotas?

If it wasn’t ‘problematic’ it wouldn’t have been banned.

30-07-2020 9:38am

Do we know it was all women who complained?

Rodney Bathgate · 30-07-2020 9:38am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Do we know it was all women who complained?

It clearly wasn’t all women, unless Paddy is a woman.

Chris_Heilong · 30-07-2020 9:38am

I was expecting something bad/crude but the most offensive thing in that advert was the woman's accent.

Zaph · 30-07-2020 9:40am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

this isn't cancel culture, this is state censorship. Much worse.

No it's not, the ASAI isn't a state body, it's described on their website as "the independent self-regulatory body set up and financed by the advertising industry". This is censorship by a tiny vocal minority of busybodies who have nothing better to be doing with themselves.

30-07-2020 9:40am

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

I was expecting something bad/crude but the most offensive thing in that advert was the woman's accent.

She reminds me of scary spice.

Rodney Bathgate · 30-07-2020 9:41am

Zaph wrote: »

No it's not, the ASAI isn't a state body, it's described on their website as "the independent self-regulatory body set up and financed by the advertising industry". This is censorship by a tiny vocal minority of busybodies who have nothing better to be doing with themselves.

Same as cancel culture then.

punisher5112 · 30-07-2020 9:45am

Suppose the lefties are offended by everything these days.... Offended that others are offended by something that actually doesn't offend the offendees......

This is the thing in Ireland we were brought up to be embarrassed by such and parents never talked about health/sexual health or just girl problems if you will....

I suppose now as we have gender neutral, fluid and such as those defining themselves as a bush or tree or a whale or something then all us other morons have to put up with it.....

Dravokivich · 30-07-2020 9:46am

I don't like the ad myself and not because of the content, but the cult like setting that it's in.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

this isn't cancel culture, this is state censorship. Much worse.

How is it state censorship, when this is the result of public complaints?

ollkiller · 30-07-2020 9:46am

So I watched it. Did I find it problematic? Did I f**k. If you indeed found it "problematic" you really need to grow up.

Get Real · 30-07-2020 9:46am

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Complaints about this ad just goes to show how regressive and patriarchal Ireland still is towards women's issues.

I do think the 80 plus people who complained had little else to be doing. But I don't know how you draw the above conclusion.

You don't know how many men vs women complained.

Ironically, alot of the complaints were that the ad was demeaning to women, which leads me to conclude that women themselves complained. (But again, I don't know the data either so could be wrong)

But based off no data whatsoever, you conclude it's because of a patriarchal attitude to women's issues?

Facts on that please. You have the data and sex of those who complained?

Your presumption it was men behind it, is engaging in generalisation you wouldn't want applied to women.

ohnonotgmail · 30-07-2020 9:47am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Suppose the lefties are offended by everything these days.... Offended that others are offended by something that actually doesn't offend the offendees......

This is the thing in Ireland we were brought up to be embarrassed by such and parents never talked about health/sexual health or just girl problems if you will....

I suppose now as we have gender neutral, fluid and such as those defining themselves as a bush or tree or a whale or something then all us other morons have to put up with it.....

what a rambling ball of ****e.

punisher5112 · 30-07-2020 9:49am

Oh and by the way, it's a terrible ad in the sense most are and the fake oh it's a real chat show rubbish....

punisher5112 · 30-07-2020 9:49am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what a rambling ball of ****e.

Ok hun

ohnonotgmail · 30-07-2020 9:49am

Dravokivich wrote: »

I don't like the ad myself and not because of the content, but the cult like setting that it's in.

How is it state censorship, when this is the result of public complaints?

it was banned by the ASAI. I was under the misapprehension that the ASAI was a statutory body.

AdrianBalboa · 30-07-2020 9:51am

Get Real wrote: »

I do think the 80 plus people who complained had little else to be doing. But I don't know how you draw the above conclusion.

You don't know how many men vs women complained.

Ironically, alot of the complaints were that the ad was demeaning to women, which leads me to conclude that women themselves complained. (But again, I don't know the data either so could be wrong)

But based off no data whatsoever, you conclude it's because of a patriarchal attitude to women's issues?

Facts on that please. You have the data and sex of those who complained?

Your presumption it was men behind it, is engaging in generalisation you wouldn't want applied to women.

According to the Irish Times it was mostly women who complained. Women who have internalised misogyny from living in a patriarchal capitalist society.

I never claimed only men or mostly men complained, I said that the complaints stemmed from patriarchal attitudes towards women's issues.

punisher5112 · 30-07-2020 9:51am

I'm actually offended by the Gillette ad where it made out men to be rapists and pure morons.....

ohnonotgmail · 30-07-2020 9:54am

anybody who thinks that banning this ad was completely backward should complain to standards@asai.ie
maybe if they get more than 84 complaints about the ad being banned they might realise how stupid they have been.

JohnnyFlash · 30-07-2020 9:56am

Hopefully my complaint about Claudia Winkleman and her fûcking head and shoulders hair will be successful next.

Day Lewin · 30-07-2020 9:57am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

You’re a grown man with a wife and family and an ad about periods is offensive to you?

I bought those new type of tampon a couple of times and I didn’t find them very good. When the ad first aired I thought it was because women were having the same issue as me. It was showing how to “get it up there” correctly. I liked that they made a public information ad about it.

I don’t like that the advertising complaints authority has took a normal female bodily function and deemed it yucky. Grow ****ing up!

I'm inclined to agree about bodily functions: not shaming.
BUT public taste in this culture does deem some things to be private.

Such as Toilet things: when advertising toilet paper, they don't show diagrams of how to use it - everyone has a bottom, sure: everyone poos. But most people don't want to see bumbums on their telly without warning!
Kind of the same: it's a private thing.
Not shameful; private. There IS a difference.

ohnonotgmail · 30-07-2020 9:58am

Day Lewin wrote: »

I'm inclined to agree about bodily functions: not shaming.
BUT public taste in this culture does deem some things to be private.

Such as Toilet things: when advertising toilet paper, they don't show diagrams of how to use it - everyone has a bottom, sure: everyone poos. But most people don't want to see bumbums on their telly without warning!
Kind of the same: it's a private thing.
Not shameful; private. There IS a difference.

the ad didnt show you how to use a tampon. it told you. people are embarrassed enough by words to write a complaint. imbeciles.

30-07-2020 9:59am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Hopefully my complaint about Claudia Winkleman and her fûcking head and shoulders hair will be successful next.

Did you put your complaint letter in your man bag rather than the post box?

d15ude · 30-07-2020 10:00am

punisher5112 wrote: »

I'm actually offended by the Gillette ad where it made out men to be rapists and pure morons.....

that sucks,
for you...

JohnnyFlash · 30-07-2020 10:03am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Did you put your complaint letter in your man bag rather than the post box?

No, I followed the procedures detailed on the www.asai.ie website. The reason for my complaint is Winkleman is a complete geebag, and she makes me want to scratch my eyes out.

joe40 · 30-07-2020 10:05am

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Complaints about this ad just goes to show how regressive and patriarchal Ireland still is towards women's issues.

I would bet that the majority of complaints about the ad are from Women.
Most men, I know anyway, have no issues with menstruation. It is just viewed as another aspect of life.

Gods Gift · 30-07-2020 10:10am

The 80 people that complained obviously already knew you have to get them RIGHT UP there

YouTalking2me · 30-07-2020 10:11am

The fact it's removed is ridiculous, this country is so backwards, was it ****e, yes, did it need to be removed, not at all.

El_Duderino 09 · 30-07-2020 10:14am

Buford T Justice wrote: »

Personally I thought it was a bit inappropriate for kids. It was broadcast when my 9 year old was watching tv - She didn't need to be watching that bollox

That's the lower end of when girls beginngetting periods. It's precisely the kind of information she needs to have. Soon.

The embarrassment is purely from adults who don't know how to talk about these things. The ad wasn't sexual or inappropriate, it just talks about a topic that makes some people feel uncomfortable die to childish attitudes towards a very normal, healthy bodily process.

The bit from Harry Enfield springs to mind: Women, know your place.

The ad as a talk-show was poor alright. I see lots of poor ads and don't feel any need to make a complaint about it.

This is an issue for Karens (male and female Karens).

One eyed Jack · 30-07-2020 10:20am

YouTalking2me wrote: »

The fact it's removed is ridiculous, this country is so backwards, was it ****e, yes, did it need to be removed, not at all.

84 complaints in a population of 7 million, and the COUNTRY is backward? Bit of an exaggeration.

Banning the advert will only do something like the Barbara Streisand effect on social media. As shìte and all as it was, we’ll never hear the end of it now.

As for justifications that it showed how to insert a tampon, the idea of inserting a tampon is hardly like putting IKEA furniture together is it? Instructions in the box fecks sake.

I found the advert cringeworthy and disgusting, and yes it was squarely aimed at the Jade Goody level intellect, which was interesting in itself because when she passed away from cervical cancer, numbers of smear tests went up. Fallen now again though -

'The Jade Goody effect has long gone’ as smear test rates hit 20-year low

Make of that what you will.

YouTalking2me · 30-07-2020 10:22am

One eyed Jack wrote: »

84 complaints in a population of 7 million, and the COUNTRY is backward? Bit of an exaggeration.

Banning the advert will only do something like the Barbara Streisand effect on social media. As shìte and all as it was, we’ll never hear the end of it now.

As for justifications that it showed how to insert a tampon, the idea of inserting a tampon is hardly like putting IKEA furniture together is it? Instructions in the box fecks sake.

I found the advert cringeworthy and disgusting, and yes it was squarely aimed at the Jade Goody level intellect, which was interesting in itself because when she passed away from cervical cancer, numbers of smear tests went up. Fallen now again though -

'The Jade Goody effect has long gone’ as smear test rates hit 20-year low

Make of that what you will.

The fact it was removed over 84 complaints out of 7 million people, is why the country is backwards imo.

meeeeh · 30-07-2020 10:23am

I wish people stopped with this Karen nonsense.

I have no desire to complain but this ad rivals starving children ads in its annoyance (for different reasons). I do wonder though why women have to swallow patronising nonsense in the ads. They wouldn't use news presenter/serious jurnalist style because well that's not what us women watch. We are much more interested in shows doing style makeovers and advice what cleaning products to use to have house spotless when husband comes home. It's puke inducing ad and not because of tampon instructions.

One eyed Jack · 30-07-2020 10:25am

YouTalking2me wrote: »

The fact it was removed over 84 complaints out of 7 million people, is why the country is backwards imo.

Yeah that just sounds stupid mate tbh. The country isn’t responsible for the actions of 84 people. The ASAI made the decision on the basis of 84 complaints, says fcukall about the attitudes of the rest of the country, only that most people didn’t give a shìte.

El_Duderino 09 · 30-07-2020 10:25am

Gods Gift wrote: »

The 80 people that complained obviously already knew you have to get them RIGHT UP there

It was like a Lads Lads Lads version of a tampon ad. I think that's the problem some people had. The women weren't being ashamed enough of their disgusting, disgusting vagina*.

*parody

punisher5112 · 30-07-2020 10:27am

d15ude wrote: »

that sucks,
for you...

So you're happy that men are all labelled rapists.... Such a nice person you are....

ellejay · 30-07-2020 10:29am

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

According to the Irish Times it was mostly women who complained. Women who have internalised misogyny from living in a patriarchal capitalist society.

I never claimed only men or mostly men complained, I said that the complaints stemmed from patriarchal attitudes towards women's issues.

- Or possibly some women have a more simplistic view in that it's bad enough actually going through monthly periods without being reminded of them when you're sitting down trying to relax.

To spout that women have "internalised misogyny" just because they don't want to be reminded of a horrible routine part of their lives is pathetic.
I feel sorry for you.
For many women, particularly as they age, periods get heavier and painful.
The side affects get worse, aches, pains, temperatures, emotional and tiredness.
(All those things that men joke about)

So when they're finally free of the symptoms, why on earth should they have it thrown in their face.

Furthermore, Tampax have ALWAYS maintained tampons need to be inserted "high up." The problem as I see it, is that they've designed an inferior product, probably by men for cost saving, and are now trying to say that "the women" aren't using it properly.

Cue cheap and nasty advertising to save face.

I read that the ASAI also said "it is unusual for advertisements complained about to be subject to more than 50 complaints. When the number is 80+ it is evidence that the advertisement as caused, for the purposes of the Code, widespread offence"

meeeeh · 30-07-2020 10:29am

I do find it interesting how us women have to swallow any patronising bs because otherwise we are prudes and Karens.

And btw this ad is an exercise in internalised misogyny. It just assumes all menstruating women are dumb.

boardlady · 30-07-2020 10:29am

Buford T Justice wrote: »

I thought the manner in which they were conveying the message was the problem, not the subject matter.

I agree with you here. Personally, I found the ad cringy and fake. I thought maybe if they did it like the Sensodyne ads - where they have a 'dentist' sitting there in their lab coat discussing the issues of tooth sensitivity and how they recommend Sensodyne. Maybe have a 'doctor' sitting there explaining a little more sensitively how you have to ensure the tampon is inserted deep enough. That way it's informative, and delivered in a matter-of-fact medical way, and not through some infantile Jeremy Kyle type chat show .. Just my opinion though.

30-07-2020 10:31am

This is how to use the troublesome applicator correctly. I’d like Tampax to put this ad on at all times of the day and night. Let’s see if the 84 are offended again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiX_PiQFxmc

YouTalking2me · 30-07-2020 10:33am

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Yeah that just sounds stupid mate tbh. The country isn’t responsible for the actions of 84 people. The ASAI made the decision on the basis of 84 complaints, says fcukall about the attitudes of the rest of the country, only that most people didn’t give a shìte.

You're totally entitled to your opinion.

It's nonsense but you're for sure entitled to it. This country is as backwards as they come.

is_that_so · 30-07-2020 10:34am

I have only seen the start of this but it struck me as quite odd and a complete mismatch with the cosy chat and then a tampon being waved about. I think people are far more used to "sciency, now better" ads. Some ads just don't work I guess.

Feisar · 30-07-2020 10:35am

Class ad, fulfilled it's purpose, to get banned.

is_that_so · 30-07-2020 10:35am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

This is how to use the troublesome applicator correctly. I’d like Tampax to put this ad on at all times of the day and night. Let’s see if the 84 are offended again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiX_PiQFxmc

Wouldn't it be better to have it as part of the instructions?

Tampax ad banned

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