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Speeding Q&A superthread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,187 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Holy fúck.. I saw a ticket from a gosafe today for 7km/h over.


    That's less than 4½mph over


    FYI



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭Parachutes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Whatever it was it was 7km/h less than what the person was travelling 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,647 ✭✭✭impr0v


    If it was 50km/hr then an additional 7km/hr is 14% faster than the maximum permitted, and probably warrants a ticket - it would be the equivalent of doing 137km/hr on the motorway. At 80km/hr and above the argument is less compelling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    I agree, the speed limit where the fine was recieved would have an impact how the speed was perceived.

    7km in a 50 is significantly higher relatively than 7km in a 120.

    And with 'most' speedos overreading it's likely the vehicle involved was indicating a higher speed then 7km over, so driver couldn't complain about not knowing or realising.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭mmc2010


    hello, I got caught speeding by a guard - I accepted I was driving too fast and he said I'd be getting 3 penalty points and a fine in the post. That was nearly 7 weeks ago and I haven't seen anything yet. What would the typical turnaround time for receiving these fines? Has anybody received it after 7 weeks? Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Gardai have 107 days to issue a ticket, so unfortunately your only half way through the permissable time limit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭mmc2010


    Thanks Killinator - will just have to wait and see so :-)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭OwlsZat


    Got issued a fine for doing 60km in a 50km zone. A great road by all accounts returning from Christmas when absolutely nobody was about. Total racket.



  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭BuildTheWall




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  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭BuildTheWall


    It is a bit of a racket, I don’t think they should really prosecute someone for doing 60km in a 50km zone. It’s grand in your local area because you’d know where the Speed Van spots are and slow down on those roads but I’m very rigid about sticking to posted limits when I’m not familiar with the area, no matter how ridiculous the limit is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,495 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    So, basically you have no problem exceeding speed limits unless you think you might be caught?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭BuildTheWall


    No, but I’m not in favour of penalising people for straying a few km over the limit. Those vans are blatant revenue generators.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    They can only generate revenue if people are speeding. If people are driving under or to the limit then the go-safe gets nada!

    There are posted signs for the limit and signs suggesting where cameras may be.

    After that the buck stops with only one person, the driver.

    And I say that as someone who speeds now and again and have been caught twice several years ago.

    All the 'but this', 'clear road', 'money racket' and whatever other excuse people want to make are just that, excuses.

    You got done, man up and accept that you were too heavy on the 'loud' pedal and that's nobody else's fault!



  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭BuildTheWall


    I know but they always seem to be on a dual carriageway with a 50kph limit, or on a bend or where a limit changes, meanwhile you can do 80kph on a little country boreen where two cars can’t even pass each other. I can see why people get pissed off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    I can understand it myself, I got done on the road into Dublin by Lucan where the speed changes.

    I cursed and was pissed but at the end of the day, the speed was advertised and it was me with the heavy foot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    With the over estimation of car speedos it's not going to be just a few km/h though, its generally a conscious decision to break the limit.

    Detection of 60 in a 50 zone is probably a speedo reading of mid 60's if not 70 km/h.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Speedometers aren't that inaccurate. Although EU law allows a speedometer to indicate anywhere betweem 100% and 100%+4 kmh of the actual speed your speedometer is unlikely to over indicate your speed by more than 4 or 5 kmh.

    A speedometer displaying 70kmh when a car is actually moving at 60kmh would be at the absolute limit of the legally alowed accuracy.

    From experience, comparing to GPS and roadside speed indicator radar, my car is within +4kmh of the actual speed at 30 / 50 / 80 / 100 / 120 kmh.


    If my speedometer indicated 55kmh I would expect 52 or 53 kmh. If it indicated 70 I'd expect my actual was 66 or 67kmh, not anywhere near 50.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭OwlsZat


    It most certainly wasn't deliberate. I drove from Kerry to Dublin at my ease. I'd didn't floor it or deliberately ignore any signs. I just had an expectation that the speed limit was appropriate for the road. I've since learned two places it's not. Lone behold they always have speed vans. The shock of it all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12 The Spy Queen


    Hi folks , got stopped for speeding few months back. Guard explained what i was travelling at etc. Proceeds to ask me for details etc, no problem then asks for drivers license which unfortunately i left at work as drive for living . No problem said guard just bring it too nearest garda station within ten days. Did that , last week got two summonses in door , 1 for non display of insurance and 1 non production of insurance certificate. Even though my car is fully insured and and was clearly displayed on windscreen . When i brought license to station i distinctly asked guard behind desk is there anything else i need to do and he said no. Does anyone know where i stand now. Ive to take a day of work to attend court hearing of something im completely innocent of unless i dont recall guard telling me to produce insurance cert with license. Is it common to be asked to produce insurance if you dont have your license on you person at time of been stopped .

    Thank you in advance



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Are you sure they didn't ask you to produce insurance certificate too? It is common for both to be requested even if you only don't have one or the other.

    Even if it had a valid disc the certificate has more details as to who is insured and if there are any named drivers and such which is why it's demanded and not just a valid disc.

    That's usually the case, probably ticked that when creating the ticket that both licence and insurance were to be produced and the system automatically checks them and if there is nothing on Pulse to say it was produced an automatic summons is issued for those two offences.

    The Garda who you produced the details to at the station wouldn't have known what you were asked to produce other than what you told them (assuming it wasn't the same Garda who stopped you) and would have just inputed the driver's licence and nothing else as per your directions.

    Usually a good idea to contact the station and get a hold of Garda involved to see if it can be rectified, worst case scenario is you attend court on day in question with your insurance certificate and it gets struck out.

    I've seen it happen lots of times where someone has been asked to produce both but only think the licence is needed as they had a disc displayed at the time and end up in a similar situation.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12 The Spy Queen


    Ok thank you for taking time to reply. i happened to go into garda station today and gard behind desk said yes they wouldnt be able to tell what was required to be produced. He said it was unusual to be asked to produce insurance but it was possible. He reckons my best bet was to try talk to gard before hearing and explain to him what happened and have proof of insurance etc and most likely he will leave it at that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    The vans cost the State about €10 million a year to operate, so they are a considerable drain on the State. Or to look at it another way, that's two schools not getting built each year because we can't trust drivers to obey speed limits.



  • Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭mmc2010


    Hi BuidTheWall, yes, unfortunately I did! 7 weeks later, I eventually got my fine....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭FGR


    Be grateful for what we've got lads as the next thing will be fixed cameras operating 24/7.

    Give me the guards and the go safe vans any day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭FGR


    Double post please delete



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭funnyclub


    Folks do Gardai with a speed gun stop you for your details if you are speeding or can you get done without being stopped? Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,837 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    They’d come after you. You won’t get anything in post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,928 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    They technically now don't need to stop you (if they caught you with one of the new guns) but from looking at their Twitter anyway or even just watching them on the motorways, they seem to still be chasing people down and stopping them.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 22 Clickclickboom


    Hi guys,

    i am new in Ireland and I was wondering how speed limit enforcement works.

    My understanding is that only speed vans and “mobile” Garda can check speed and fine accordingly, is it correct ?


    Or are there also “stable” and static speed cameras like other countries (Spain, France) ?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    There are only a few locations with static/average speed cameras in the country.

    The vast majority of speeding is detected via uniform Gardai or speed vans



  • Registered Users Posts: 22 Clickclickboom


    Thanks ! I heard those are mostly in the cities, right ?


    are there any static cameras on the motorways ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    There is an average speed camera in testing on the M7 between Nenagh and Birdhill, don't know of others



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Just stick to the speed limit and you’ll be fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    GoSafe vans will be at designated locations https://www.garda.ie/en/roads-policing/safety-camera-locations/ Garda speedchecks can be anywhere, motorways, national roads, regional roads, in urban areas using a range of speed cameras - tripod mounted, hand held or in vehicle (marked and unmarked) with speed detection and ANPR. They can anywhere they have a view of a road. Modern speed detection technology can measure a car's speed at over 1000m if it has a clear line of sight.



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  • Posts: 864 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Port Tunnel is the only other one. It's active



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,187 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    The tunnel in cork has had anpr for years, keeps a record of everything that passed thru. Also measures the speed of every car, bit it's not used for issueing tickets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Yeah, I don't travel the port tunnel or jack lynch in Cork much so not aware of how their cameras work



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭ofcork




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭orthsquel


    Got pulled over by a Garda this morning who i think was up the otherside of slip road so only visible from behind, for speeding.

    Me rare speeding - heavy footed when overtaking a car who was being a dick before i overtook them and they proceeded to speed up during - was clocked 20km over 120km on dual carriageway, fair enough, but me being me have been panicking myself since in fear - Garda said getting fixed charge and penalty points, at what speed could they have considered dangerous driving? 1st offence speeding just a bit panicked and worrying myself. Also was considering doing further categories for towing a caravan, can I still consider it or would the points prevent me from doing so?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    As the Garda told you, you'll get a FCN for speeding and the 3 points on your license.

    The requirements for dangerous driving vary in a case by case basis and take multple factors into consideration, there is no hard and fast rule but 20km over is not it.


    It will have no effect on other license categories and assuming you don't have previous points already it likely won't even effect your insurance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭orthsquel


    Thanks Killinator, it had me worried for sure. I was panicked enough to sit on Garda traffic twitter to see would my car be shamed 🤦‍♀️ and seen others in past similar speed be charged, but thankfully im not guesting their twitter timeline. Spoke to a family member about it too, they said not to worry and keep a look out in post. 10 yrs driving no points, so really hope wont effect me too much with insurance. Not necessarily the worst experience, dealing with Garda was a quick and polite affair, but it has given me a kick to be more careful.

    Thanks again 😊



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 frannkie92


    Does anyone know the penalty for driving past a speed van without their full headights on at night? Stupidly did this last night after having driven out of a multi-storey car park



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,837 ✭✭✭✭callaway92




  • Registered Users Posts: 6 frannkie92


    Eseentially I drove past a GoSafe van without my full headlights on at night



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,837 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Ehm...You will not be punished for that. I guess nearly every single person driving past them turns their headlights off when passing them



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 frannkie92


    Apologies for the misunderstanding. I should have specified I was driving with my "sidelights" (is that the correct word) only. Stupidly, I had only these on when leaving the car park and forgot to switch to dipped headlight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,928 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    You won't hear a thing unless you were (a bit) over the limit when you passed it. They don't record other offences.. just speeding.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 frannkie92




  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AH92


    Hello,

    Can a go safe speed van on the liffey valley exit side of the n4 catch any cars if they are on the opposite side of the n4 taking the m50 exit as it's 60 km on that side of the road or are there too many lanes including the concrete barrier in the middle?



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