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Liberals who aren't liberal

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    #152
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Only governments can censor.
    If a private company doesn't want your content because it hurts their brand thats marketing and capitalism not censorship.


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    #153
    Bobtheman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Interesting piece on me too movement. In Irish edition Sunday times. Back to1973.
    Basically a lot of firms no longer hiring women for fear of being accused of harrasment.
    I think the initial movement had it's heart in the right place even if Hollywood stars in black dresses with tits hanging out made a bit of a joke of it.
    However the continuing dumping of unsubstantiated allegations has damaged it. Natural justice thrown out the window. False allegations have been found to have been made
    Liberals just as much as conservatives love jumping on a bandwagon. Especially when they feel they have the whip hand. It's a lynch mob mentality


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    #154
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    20Cent wrote: »
    Only governments can censor.
    If a private company doesn't want your content because it hurts their brand thats marketing and capitalism not censorship.

    Funny how Leftists are now trying to co-opt libertarianism with their own take on it when it suits their agenda to censor the right.


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    #155
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    QuintusFabius wrote: »
    Jesus these days anyone slightly to the right of Stalin is a bigot.

    Today's Leftists are aching for the kind of power that Stalin had. Any means to silence their opponents and they will do it


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    #156
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    DS86DS wrote: »
    Funny how Leftists are now trying to co-opt libertarianism with their own take on it when it suits their agenda to censor the right.

    Hardly co-opting libertarianism. If a website doesn't want to host content. They're not obliged and I've never heard anyone argue otherwise.


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    #157
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,017 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    DS86DS wrote: »
    Funny how Leftists are now trying to co-opt libertarianism with their own take on it when it suits their agenda to censor the right.
    DS86DS wrote: »
    Today's Leftists are aching for the kind of power that Stalin had. Any means to silence their opponents and they will do it

    It's like Cards Against Humanity with you. "The Leftists are...." - followed by random surreal comment pulled out of a box.

    "The leftists are... a windmull full of dead babies."

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #158
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    DS86DS wrote: »
    Today's Leftists are aching for the kind of power that Stalin had. Any means to silence their opponents and they will do it

    Have you any proof of that claim whatsoever?


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    #159
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    It's like Cards Against Humanity with you. "The Leftists are...." - followed by random surreal comment pulled out of a box.

    "The leftists are... a windmull full of dead babies."

    Whatever.

    Let's listen to what an actual long time Libertarian has to say on the issue and not left wing mouthpieces revelling in the silencing of their opponents.

    And yes, Stefan Molyneaux is an actual intelligent long time Libertarian who understands classical economics and political philosophy unlike some of the brain dead Leftists beating about the bush

    https://youtu.be/44uOmiS7XPs


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    #160
    engiweirdo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭engiweirdo


    The thing is though, Right and Left are economic poles not social, relating purely to ownership of means of production/wealth. Parties proclaiming to be "left" blindly supporting something like uncontrolled immigration/open borders I find bizarre given that such policies favour only the owners of capital, leading to wage deflation via increased competition etc. A very strange philosophy. No one knows what they are anymore.


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    #161
    rossie1977
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    Define liberal.

    In the states today anyone left of Ted Cruz is called a liberal. We have people here using the words communist, socialist and liberal hand in hand as if they describe same thing


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    #162
    PopePalpatine
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    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Define liberal.

    In the states today anyone left of Ted Cruz is called a liberal. We have people here using the words communist, socialist and liberal hand in hand as if they describe same thing

    Nah brah, you just need to watch this 4 hour-long video and get redsuppositoried, brah.


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    #163
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    DS86DS wrote: »
    Whatever.

    Let's listen to what an actual long time Libertarian has to say on the issue and not left wing mouthpieces revelling in the silencing of their opponents.

    And yes, Stefan Molyneaux is an actual intelligent long time Libertarian who understands classical economics and political philosophy unlike some of the brain dead Leftists beating about the bush

    https://youtu.be/44uOmiS7XPs
    He's a great manipulator who subscribes to crap like white genocide conspiracies. Easily manipulated.


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    #164
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,017 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    DS86DS wrote: »
    Whatever.

    Let's listen to what an actual long time Libertarian has to say on the issue and not left wing mouthpieces revelling in the silencing of their opponents.

    My point entirely:

    "A leftist is.... not what this random bloke on Youtube thinks, because I can't explain."

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #165
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    My point entirely:

    "A leftist is.... not what this random bloke on Youtube thinks, because I can't explain."

    Stefan Molyneaux is one of the predominant Libertarian and Conservative speakers on YouTube, not just some random bloke.

    Did you even bother to watch the video?


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    #166
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,017 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    DS86DS wrote: »
    Stefan Molyneaux is one of the predominant Libertarian and Conservative speakers on YouTube, not just some random bloke.

    Did you even bother to watch the video?

    Did you even bother to respond to my claim?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #167
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    Stefan Molyneaux on why Liberals hate free speech.

    https://youtu.be/nsvgTHcLKXs


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    #168
    sk8erboii
    Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    DS86DS wrote: »
    Stefan Molyneaux on why Liberals hate free speech.

    https://youtu.be/nsvgTHcLKXs

    ‘Damn those liberals really hate free speech! Now let me post it on youtube.’


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    #169
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    My number 1 gripe is the way they go bananas when somebody isn't up to date on "the rule" and using the wrong language turns you into a pariah.
    Very 1984.

    In a funny way they are the catholic church they profess to hate


    You should laugh and say it's all Americanisms on the internet...but it's an infection.
    Our recent abortion law was changed from pregnant women to pregnant person. The actual law of the land is now fully of this sh1te, tax money wasted on this


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    #170
    sk8erboii
    Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    paw patrol wrote: »
    My number 1 gripe is the way they go bananas when somebody isn't up to date on "the rule" and using the wrong language turns you into a pariah.
    Very 1984.

    In a funny way they are the catholic church they profess to hate


    You should laugh and say it's all Americanisms on the internet...but it's an infection.
    Our recent abortion law was changed from pregnant women to pregnant person. The actual law of the land is now fully of this sh1te, tax money wasted on this

    ‘Wtf? Those liberals want me to treat people respectfully regardless of race or nationality? Theyre LITERALLY WORSE THAN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH’

    ???


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    #171
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    Stefan Molyneaux conversation with a Communist.

    https://youtu.be/1TgdLkGwbTw


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    #172
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,775 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    DS86DS wrote: »
    Stefan Molyneaux on why Liberals hate free speech.

    https://youtu.be/nsvgTHcLKXs

    You need to recalibrate your hate sensors. One minute you're giving out about liberals then leftists, which is it? This Stefan Molyneaux person is a libertarian and a conservative, which is it.

    If you're going to throw around terms, you should probably learn what they mean.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #173
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    ‘Wtf? Those liberals want me to treat people restfully regardless of race or nationality? Theyre LITERALLY WORSE THAN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH’

    ???

    if that's your take on what I wrote , debating with you is a lost cause


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    #174
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,775 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    DS86DS wrote: »
    Stefan Molyneaux conversation with a Communist.

    https://youtu.be/1TgdLkGwbTw

    You can't speak for yourself?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #175
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users Posts: 17,498 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    DS86DS wrote: »
    Whatever.

    Let's listen to what an actual long time Libertarian has to say on the issue and not left wing mouthpieces revelling in the silencing of their opponents.

    And yes, Stefan Molyneaux is an actual intelligent long time Libertarian who understands classical economics and political philosophy unlike some of the brain dead Leftists beating about the bush

    https://youtu.be/44uOmiS7XPs
    DS86DS wrote: »
    Stefan Molyneaux on why Liberals hate free speech.

    https://youtu.be/nsvgTHcLKXs
    DS86DS wrote: »
    Stefan Molyneaux conversation with a Communist.

    https://youtu.be/1TgdLkGwbTw

    Mod: Don't post in this thread again.

    Reason: posting relentlessly posting videos and contributing nothing of substance to the thread other than vague generalisations.


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    #176
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Brian? wrote: »
    You can't speak for yourself?

    I think it's very clear at this point that the poster can't actually post their own thoughts, instead resorting to soundbites and youtube links.

    I'm no fan of having alternative views censored, but they can at least provide actual debate like some posters of the past did, before they ran off to their circle jerk forum on Voat.


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    #177
    sk8erboii
    Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Brian? wrote: »
    You can't speak for yourself?

    LOL

    Nah we’re just too stupid to comprehend these free thinking bunch


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    #178
    RWCNT
    Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    DS86DS wrote: »
    Whatever.

    Let's listen to what an actual long time Libertarian has to say on the issue and not left wing mouthpieces revelling in the silencing of their opponents.

    And yes, Stefan Molyneaux is an actual intelligent long time Libertarian who understands classical economics and political philosophy unlike some of the brain dead Leftists beating about the bush

    https://youtu.be/44uOmiS7XPs

    Mate, please. Read some well regarded philosophy and political theory books instead. These YouTube talking men are almost all completely full of **** and you're doing yourself a massive disservice by taking them at their word. They are snake oil salesmen and you are becoming stupider as a result of ingesting their content.


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    #179
    nthclare
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    I think Christopher Hitches didn't like Liberals or Femminists.

    He suggested eventually we'll be so silenced that we won't be able to say anything, unless it's in accordance to the liberal agenda.

    Liberals seem to have an agenda on the sexualisation of society.

    But then can't tollerate good old fashioned flirting or a wolfwhistle.

    What a contradiction, I think it's gone mad Ted.

    Sometime in the future you'll have a group starting up of men and women who'll be recovering femminists or liberals.

    Because I kicked that to the kirb maybe three years ago, I realised living like one of those new age hippies or so called liberal guy's wasn't productive.

    Always looking to be offended, getting anxiety and feeling like a victim.....

    Not anymore, a man is a man and a woman's a woman.

    Simple as.


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    #180
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    nthclare wrote: »
    I think Christopher Hitches didn't like Liberals or Femminists.

    He suggested eventually we'll be so silenced that we won't be able to say anything, unless it's in accordance to the liberal agenda.

    Liberals seem to have an agenda on the sexualisation of society.

    But then can't tollerate good old fashioned flirting or a wolfwhistle.

    What a contradiction, I think it's gone mad Ted.

    Sometime in the future you'll have a group starting up of men and women who'll be recovering femminists or liberals.

    Because I kicked that to the kirb maybe three years ago, I realised living like one of those new age hippies or so called liberal guy's wasn't productive.

    Always looking to be offended, getting anxiety and feeling like a victim.....

    Not anymore, a man is a man and a woman's a woman.

    Simple as.




    Wtf is that when its at home?


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    #181
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    ‘Damn those liberals really hate free speech! Now let me post it on youtube.’

    Yeah it's so funny complaining about being censored on a platform hosting his content and in interviews, tv etc. poor fella.
    Gema O'Doherty tweeted this video has been banned and included a link to the video in it!


    Advertisers don't want their ads appearing on racist white supremacist videos it's as simple as that.


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