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Jackpot overraking

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 tournamentnoel


    agreed......sorry to see the jackpot unable or unwilling to defend its nefarious practises.......punters, give these plcs a miss and visit ur local pub to play....better crack and seriously low rakes................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    what is the purpose of a casino - to part people with thier hardearned cash....have they any morality - this is a question of money, not morality.....are casinos (not just the jakpot) overraking - when 10 drunk people arrive in a cardclub / casino, would they have any idea if pots were being overraked answer) no - simply people, casinos are dens of inequity for the tormented - only function to deprive people of thier cash - :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: - my personal experience of the jackpot was essentially negative - simply place for students to sit and hatch and rob boozers - not aplace for proper poker players - simply a dive - avoid peeps - play in your local pub game with locals and enjoy a pint and give the jackpot and its cronies a wide berth.......
    agreed......sorry to see the jackpot unable or unwilling to defend its nefarious practises.......punters, give these plcs a miss and visit ur local pub to play....better crack and seriously low rakes................

    Two things I would point out to you noel, firstly you should familarise yourself with the libel laws in this country and secondly you should take a look at the gambling laws, it is illegal to play for cash in a pub.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Samba


    It's a shame this thread descended into what it's now. There was a valid discussion to be had, well I guess the thread will at least serve to demonstrate how not to go about making a complaint. :pac:

    Just for the record, I earned my living in Dublin card rooms for around 2 years and played casually for around 5, and this is something I've seen happen regularly, in just about every room I've played in.

    SE, Jackpot, Fitz etc.

    It usually happens after a period of low action activity and the dealer needs to make up the numbers. In this particular instance I honestly don't know, and I'm not going to comment on conjecture.


    OP you've gone about this in the wrong manner, also your suggestion that you could simply implement a cap and still make up figures, essentially what you're saying is that there will always be enough action at the table that you could easily implement a cap.

    What if you're dealing to a table full of nits, can you say with absolute certainty that they could easily achieve their hourly rate with a 5 or €10 cap? I'm not so sure...you might not even hit that cap once in a full hours play.

    Ok my example was a bit far fetched, a table full of nits in Jackpot, yeah right :D

    But you get my point.

    When you're calculating rake on fly like they do, it's not easy to come up with any set formula that will 100% assure you meet your rates.

    I will agree with you on one thing, if rake structures and how dealers are applying were more transparent, I probably wouldn't be posting on this thread right now.

    Lplate is right, people will read this thread and make their own decision, but it's hard to decide whether the management simply opted to ignore you because they deemed you were just an incessant moaner (they not I!) or is it because there's something more sinister at play. Had you carried your complaint with a little more decorum, you'd be able to rule out the first possbility, as things stand this isn't the case i'm afraid.

    Vote with your feet and don't play there if you're not happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Formation


    I'm glad to see others are keeping this thread on the front page so that new customers will be aware of how the Jackpot does business.

    If you want to contact the Jackpot directly if you are curious as to how much you are being charged you can do so by emailing them at info@thejackpot.ie and possibly post here what they have to say for themselves.

    They have been posting regularly in this thread and are reading this thread on a regular basis - It will stay on the front page until Paul comes clean about how much he actually charges his customers!






    The best way to deal with clubs who operate like this is to go elsewhere:

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    Voodoo Card Club: 40 Arran Quay Dublin 7, Co. Dublin, (01) 872 7918





















    The question currently posed to the Jackpot is:

    Paul,

    This is probably the best way to put an end to this discussion while being transparent about your rake structure...

    Can you detail how much would be raked out of this pot?

    9 handed e1/2 game:

    preflop:
    UTG open to e20
    UTG+1 calls e20
    MP1 folds
    MP2 calls e20
    MP3 folds
    CO calls e20
    BUTTON calls e20
    SB folds
    BB goes all in for e80
    UTG calls e60
    UTG+1 calls e60
    MP2 folds
    CO folds
    BUTTON calls e60

    flop:
    UTG bets e150
    UTG+1 folds
    BUTTON calls e150

    turn:
    UTG checks
    BUTTON bets e250 all in
    UTG folds

    showdown between BB and BUTTON.

    BB: AhAc
    BUTTON: KhKc

    board: 2c,4c,5h,9s,Jd

    Paul can you tell me how much would be raked out of the above hand and detail how you decided on the amount of the rake?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 427 ✭✭GKidd


    Formation wrote: »
    I'm glad to see others are keeping this thread on the front page so that new customers will be aware of how the Jackpot does business.

    If you want to contact the Jackpot directly if you are curious as to how much you are being charged you can do so by emailing them at info@thejackpot.ie and possibly post here what they have to say for themselves.

    They have been posting regularly in this thread and are reading this thread on a regular basis - It will stay on the front page until Paul comes clean about how much he actually charges his customers!

    Good luck in your crusade noble keyboard warrior. You can tell from the lack of 'thanks' at the bottom of your post how much interest peeps have in your quest. Nobody gives a **** so move on with your life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭the_pits


    Think it time for Mods to lock it up .......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭Lplated


    GKidd wrote: »
    Good luck in your crusade noble keyboard warrior. You can tell from the lack of 'thanks' at the bottom of your post how much interest peeps have in your quest. Nobody gives a **** so move on with your life

    You'd be surprised GKidd - people can support the general gist of a post without bothering to click the thanks button.

    Probably a better indication of people's interest in the OPs quest is how many have read the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭2moreMinutes


    What amazes me about this thread is that you can open to €20 and still get 5 callers at 1/2. I need to find myself a live game to play!


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