The Sunday World.

Ralf and Florian · 08-08-2017 10:25am #1

Rag of a paper that I don't read anymore but when my parents used to get it in the 80's some of the features and stories used to be a source of fun. Those exposes of brothels where the reporter "made his excuses and left". Toni The Exotic Dancer. The showbiz ads section featuring terrible past it- cabaret acts, washed up showbands like The Indians and regional comedians like Tom And Pascall. Pub Spy who used to do reviews of pubs and going on about barmen serving slops and filthy jacks. Shock horror feature on Video Nasties with a graphic picture of the cover for Driller Killer "The blood runs in rivers, and the drill keeps tearing through flesh and bone".

Ralf and Florian · 11-08-2017 10:02am

And remember that running cartoon they had poking fun at the Fianna Gael/ Labour coalition of the mid 80's called GarBarDick? It had Garret Fitzgerald, Barry Noonan and Dick Spring depicted as a scaly three headed dinosaur type monster. Weirdly they depicted it as having womens boobs (well the Sunday World was always obsessed with boobs)

branie2 · 18-08-2017 10:12am

They used to have a section for kids as well

darkdubh · 18-08-2017 9:25pm

branie2 wrote: »

They used to have a section for kids as well

Yes, with a weekly colouring competition. I won something in that one time.

mikemac2 · 18-08-2017 9:28pm

Pub spy always a great read. The old commando and the young commando and others visiting towns around the country

I've been in a few pubs that proudly put their pub spy review on the wall

Ash.J.Williams · 18-08-2017 9:35pm

I miss expose articles on heavy metal bands being evil... Fr Brian D'Arcy wasn't a slayer, deicide or carcass fan.

darkdubh · 18-08-2017 9:40pm

What was the name of the guy who had a column where he'd be giving out about women drivers and feminism etc? Have a feeling it might have been slightly tongue in cheek or maybe not, always used to spark angry responses in the letters section. He had a big red face and looked like he was fond of a few jars.

Ralf and Florian · 18-08-2017 10:01pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I miss expose articles on heavy metal bands being evil... Fr Brian D'Arcy wasn't a slayer, deicide or carcass fan.

Ha, I remember they actually did a cover story on Carcass titled something like "Ban this sick band" and showing the gruesome cover for their album Symphonies Of Sickness. Of course I had to buy it after that.

Another metal shock horror feature they did was about a video by the band WASP where the singer is throttling a priest in confession which in the video is actually done for comic effect but the Sunday World had these still images that tried to make it look more sinister and tried to put some kind of satanic slant on it.

Ash.J.Williams · 18-08-2017 10:14pm

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Ha, I remember they actually did a cover story on Carcass titled something like "Ban this sick band" and showing the gruesome cover for their album Symphonies Of Sickness. Of course I had to buy it after that.

Another metal shock horror feature they did was about a video by the band WASP where the singer is throttling a priest in confession which in the video is actually done for comic effect but the Sunday World had these still images that tried to make it look more sinister and tried to put some kind of satanic slant on it.

I remember that... Why Couldn't he just enjoy carcasses sense of humour!..

kupus · 18-08-2017 10:25pm

darkdubh wrote: »

What was the name of the guy who had a column where he'd be giving out about women drivers and feminism etc? Have a feeling it might have been slightly tongue in cheek or maybe not, always used to spark angry responses in the letters section. He had a big red face and looked like he was fond of a few jars.

Murray?

TheRiverman · 18-08-2017 10:34pm

I remember when I was "getting it every Sunday",but not anymore.

branie2 · 18-08-2017 11:36pm

For some unknown reason, I used to call the kids' section the Popeye pages, even though there was no Popeye strip in it.

darkdubh · 19-08-2017 10:01am

kupus wrote: »

Murray?

I have a feeling it was a different fella but could be him.

darkdubh · 19-08-2017 10:07am

branie2 wrote: »

For some unknown reason, I used to call the kids' section the Popeye pages, even though there was no Popeye strip in it.

Are you sure, I seem to vaguely remember Popeye being in it at some stage?
They did have The Phantom "The Ghost Who Walks". Also that bald lad Henry. They also used to do these syndicated strips of childrens movies that had been out recently in the cinema. The Black Cauldron was one and another one I remember was Return To Oz.

branie2 · 19-08-2017 10:28am

They also did a strip based on Condor Man

Erik Shin · 19-08-2017 3:59pm

darkdubh wrote: »

What was the name of the guy who had a column where he'd be giving out about women drivers and feminism etc? Have a feeling it might have been slightly tongue in cheek or maybe not, always used to spark angry responses in the letters section. He had a big red face and looked like he was fond of a few jars.

Was it an auld fella from Kerry?

darkdubh · 19-08-2017 6:49pm

Erik Shin wrote: »

Was it an auld fella from Kerry?

Con Houlihan? It wasn't him. The guy I'm talking about had some kind of distinctive facial hair, either very long mutton chop sideburns or one of those beards with no moustache like Abraham Lincoln had. I seem to remember he was pretty right wing, kind of came across a bit like Gary Bushnell in the Sun, similar kind of style.

branie2 · 19-08-2017 6:55pm

I got an edition many years ago, as there was an article on Nostradamus

Ralf and Florian · 19-08-2017 10:49pm

Here's an old Pub Spy article from the late 70's.

https://brandnewretro.ie/2012/12/04/grogans-dublin-2-pub-spy-sunday-world-1978/

darkdubh · 18-09-2017 10:58am

branie2 wrote: »

I got an edition many years ago, as there was an article on Nostradamus

Think I remember that. Was that around the time of the run up to the first Gulf War (1991) with Nostro's "predictions" about Saddam Hussein?

Wowbagger · 18-09-2017 11:18am

darkdubh wrote: »

What was the name of the guy who had a column where he'd be giving out about women drivers and feminism etc? Have a feeling it might have been slightly tongue in cheek or maybe not, always used to spark angry responses in the letters section. He had a big red face and looked like he was fond of a few jars.

Would it have been Kevin Marron?

branie2 · 18-09-2017 11:58am

darkdubh wrote: »

Think I remember that. Was that around the time of the run up to the first Gulf War (1991) with Nostro's "predictions" about Saddam Hussein?

Later than that, I think

darkdubh · 19-09-2017 12:52am

Wowbagger wrote: »

Would it have been Kevin Marron?

It wasn't him. He was killed in the 84 plane crash right?

WHL · 19-09-2017 9:17am

Pretty sure that Pub Spy is still running

Ralf and Florian · 19-09-2017 9:37am

WHL wrote: »

Pretty sure that Pub Spy is still running

Really? I'm surprised at that, then again I don't look at it these days.

branie2 · 19-09-2017 12:08pm

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Really? I'm surprised at that, then again I don't look at it these days.

It's still there

cml387 · 22-09-2017 2:07pm

Shay Healy I think had a parody song based on Dr. Hook's song "Cover of the Rolling Stone".

One line went

"And I'll ask Brian D'Arcy if he'll get my arsey on the cover of the Sunday World".

darkdubh · 27-09-2017 4:23pm

Toni The Exotic dancer used to be a constant feature in their pages in the late 80's. A housewife from Tallaght shaking her jugs was about as exotic as it got in Ireland then.

https://www.rte.ie/archives/2016/1129/835226-toni-exotic-dancer/

Claude Wilton · 28-09-2017 7:58pm

darkdubh wrote: »

Toni The Exotic dancer used to be a constant feature in their pages in the late 80's. A housewife from Tallaght shaking her jugs was about as exotic as it got in Ireland then.

The Lower Deck in Portobello used to host Toni on Sunday mornings. Me and my mates were just out of school and never did go in, as we thought we'd get knifed in there

Ralf and Florian · 29-09-2017 12:05pm

One of their "stories" that I remember from about mid 80's was about a black South African guy called "Miley" (apparently his real first name) who was doing some sort of cabaret act in a Dublin pub and all the women in the audience stormed the stage and ripped his clothes off him. There was a picture of him on the stage in the buff with the token black bar censoring his tackle. I think even at time aged 12 or 13 I copped that it was probably some kind of publicity stunt. They had a follow up story the next week with Miley and his Irish girlfriend who was saying something like Miley is my man and other women better stay away from him.

Ralf and Florian · 13-10-2017 10:39am

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

And remember that running cartoon they had poking fun at the Fianna Gael/ Labour coalition of the mid 80's called GarBarDick? It had Garret Fitzgerald, Barry Noonan and Dick Spring depicted as a scaly three headed dinosaur type monster. Weirdly they depicted it as having womens boobs (well the Sunday World was always obsessed with boobs)

BTW anyone else remember this, I've tried to find images online to no avail.I'm trying to remember who the cartoonist was. Pretty sure it wasn't Tom Matthews.

darkdubh · 23-10-2017 9:36am

Worth a listen.

http://www.rte.ie/archives/exhibitions/1406-newspapers/368683-sunday-world/

Ralf and Florian · 06-02-2018 8:51pm

Kevin Sharkey being mentioned in the clebs who disappeared without trace thread reminded me of when he was presenting Megamix circa mid 80's the Sunday World did a story on him where they printed these pictures that he'd done for a gay porn magazine in London when he was living there in the 70's. I remember being struck by the fact that he had this big 70's afro in the pictures which was at odds with his then hip looking 80's image.That and the fact that he was balls naked.

sunbeam · 17-02-2018 10:23pm

I vaguely recall they had a hair spy as well as a pub spy at one stage where undercover reporters would go and selflessly get their hair done in the name of research.

darkdubh · 18-02-2018 2:11am

What was the name of that middle aged woman who did the agony aunt column? Dear "insert name" it was called.

Edit: Found out there was a column called Dear Linda.

interlocked · 18-02-2018 3:33am

Dear Linda.

There was also Micheline McCormack.

In the 1980's they started a campaign that real men didn't eat quiche which most Irish men wouldn't have recognised if it was slapped in their face.

There was also the showbiz correspondent "Swashbuckling" Andy Deveraux who had a worrying penchant for Bob Segar, and another journalist with a beard at the time called Bill "something"

They had a Grub Spy, Pub Spy and a Hair Spy who was obsessed with hair brush sterilisers.

BTW Kevin Marron was the editor of a 1970's Irish men's magazine called Man Alive which featured full nude spreads of Irish women, hard to believe that that was happening over forty years ago, episode 2 even included an interview with one Eamon Dunphy, keeping it real even then baby............................

https://brandnewretro.ie/2011/08/25/man-alive-issue-2-june-1974-mens-fashion/

darkdubh · 18-02-2018 3:58pm

interlocked wrote: »

Dear Linda.

There was also Micheline McCormack.

In the 1980's they started a campaign that real men didn't eat quiche which most Irish men wouldn't have recognised if it was slapped in their face.

There was also the showbiz correspondent "Swashbuckling" Andy Deveraux who had a worrying penchant for Bob Segar, and another journalist with a beard at the time called Bill "something"

They had a Grub Spy, Pub Spy and a Hair Spy who was obsessed with hair brush sterilisers.

BTW Kevin Marron was the editor of a 1970's Irish men's magazine called Man Alive which featured full nude spreads of Irish women, hard to believe that that was happening over forty years ago, episode 2 even included an interview with one Eamon Dunphy, keeping it real even then baby............................

https://brandnewretro.ie/2011/08/25/man-alive-issue-2-june-1974-mens-fashion/

That's the woman I was thinking of, I was getting the two columns mixed up. I seem to recall she was kind of conservative in terms of the advice she gave people, ie sex before marriage etc. Dear Linda was anonymous I think.

Link with picture of Michelle McCormack.

https://stillslibrary.rte.ie/indexplus/image/2131/039.html

darkdubh · 18-02-2018 4:14pm

darkdubh wrote: »

What was the name of the guy who had a column where he'd be giving out about women drivers and feminism etc? Have a feeling it might have been slightly tongue in cheek or maybe not, always used to spark angry responses in the letters section. He had a big red face and looked like he was fond of a few jars.

interlocked wrote: »

Dear Linda.

There was also Micheline McCormack.

In the 1980's they started a campaign that real men didn't eat quiche which most Irish men wouldn't have recognised if it was slapped in their face.

There was also the showbiz correspondent "Swashbuckling" Andy Deveraux who had a worrying penchant for Bob Segar, and another journalist with a beard at the time called Bill "something"

They had a Grub Spy, Pub Spy and a Hair Spy who was obsessed with hair brush sterilisers.

BTW Kevin Marron was the editor of a 1970's Irish men's magazine called Man Alive which featured full nude spreads of Irish women, hard to believe that that was happening over forty years ago, episode 2 even included an interview with one Eamon Dunphy, keeping it real even then baby............................

https://brandnewretro.ie/2011/08/25/man-alive-issue-2-june-1974-mens-fashion/

I think that might be the guy I was posting about earlier, wish I could think of his second name.

Ralf and Florian · 27-02-2018 8:06pm

Henry was one of the strips in the kids section. Never quite got the deal with him.He had no visible mouth and as far as I know never spoke.

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branie2 · 01-03-2018 10:42am

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Henry was one of the strips in the kids section. Never quite got the deal with him.He had no visible mouth and as far as I know never spoke.

I've forgotten about Henry until now. Talk about a blast from the past!

johnnyyesno · 11-04-2018 7:57am

He looks kind of like a fetus.

johnnyyesno · 22-04-2018 8:56am

interlocked wrote: »

Dear Linda.

There was also Micheline McCormack.

In the 1980's they started a campaign that real men didn't eat quiche which most Irish men wouldn't have recognised if it was slapped in their face.

There was also the showbiz correspondent "Swashbuckling" Andy Deveraux who had a worrying penchant for Bob Segar, and another journalist with a beard at the time called Bill "something"

They had a Grub Spy, Pub Spy and a Hair Spy who was obsessed with hair brush sterilisers.

BTW Kevin Marron was the editor of a 1970's Irish men's magazine called Man Alive which featured full nude spreads of Irish women, hard to believe that that was happening over forty years ago, episode 2 even included an interview with one Eamon Dunphy, keeping it real even then baby............................

https://brandnewretro.ie/2011/08/25/man-alive-issue-2-june-1974-mens-fashion/

Lol, I remember Dear Linda.

https://brandnewretro.ie/2017/07/17/retro-worries-42-boomerang/

TheRiverman · 22-04-2018 9:27am

Thirty five years since it was first published.

johnnyyesno · 22-04-2018 9:50am

TheRiverman wrote: »

Thirty five years since it was first published.

It's been longer than that, it started in the early 70's.

The Crowman · 05-06-2018 7:47pm

Did the Sunday World have a page 3 in the 80's/90's like the English tabloids did? I seem to remember them having regular models in a state of undress but they'd stop short at showing them topless. I remember a few nude shots from behind all right.

The Crowman · 08-09-2018 1:43pm

That story about the Aussie woman who kicked up a fuss over not being addressed as Doctor reminded me of when Gay Byrne had a weekly column in the Sunday World in the late 80's. It was not long after he got his doctorate from Trinity and he wrote the column under the name "Dr Gay Byrne" and it was accompanied by a picture of him in mortar board hat and dressed like an Oxford don. He got a lot of slagging over that I recall with people feeling that he was getting fierce notions about himself. I don't think the column lasted all that long,I think it was him telling anecdotes and general musings on life. The only thing he wrote in it that sticks in my head was a statement he made one week that he found Charley Chaplin "about as funny as cancer".

Hangdogroad · 10-03-2020 8:23am

I first heard of Viz when Sunday World did a story on it circa 1989. They had a picture of Johnny Fartpants on the cover, not as the main pic but one one of those smaller panels accompanied by the tagline " Is this the world's rudest comic?"

Hangdogroad · 12-08-2020 10:20am

Anyone remember the TV column in the Sunday World by the late John Little? He really didn't hold back on shows he didn't like. He tore strips out of that RTE prison drama "Inside". It was awful tbf. He'd slate Fair City as well when it first started.

odyssey06 · 12-08-2020 10:27am

Hangdogroad wrote: »

Anyone remember the TV column in the Sunday World by the late John Little? He really didn't hold back on shows he didn't like. He tore strips out of that RTE prison drama "Inside". It was awful tbf. He'd slate Fair City as well when it first started.

I didn't come across that alas and I don't remember Inside either... I love reading those old reviews from Clive James for that era.
The Fair City one would be class to read now.

Hangdogroad · 12-08-2020 10:42am

odyssey06 wrote: »

I didn't come across that alas and I don't remember Inside either... I love reading those old reviews from Clive James for that era.
The Fair City one would be class to read now.

He would have been doing the TV column 1980s into the early 90s then for some reason he was switched to doing the horoscopes which I thought was an awful waste of his talents. He passed away in 2002.

Hangdogroad · 01-07-2021 7:27am

About the infamous Carcass Symphonys Of Sickness cover story from 1990.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=585842238634958&id=209863716232814

The Sunday World.

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