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Cold Spell Discussion (Ireland): Cold/Frosty/Icy with Snow for some

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  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭fontenoy7


    I think upland Dublin and Wicklow will have a snow and lots of it with sleet for the the rest of the East though or wet snow at best. The North east will have more in the way of snow apart from the coast.

    I think Dublin city and county will have snow showers on Sunday and Monday though.

    Very High areas in the South should do quite well in terms of snow but it will be rain elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Spindle wrote: »

    It reminds me of the times when it was raining, the ground would be soaked, then it would start to snow, there was always the, Its snowing followed by ahhh the ground is too wet for it to stick.

    Not necessarily, I said the same thing a few years ago, the ground was very wet and it started to snow and got colder and colder and it stuck and the snow that day was very heavy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Yes it is looking a mix of rain and snow at the moment
    Very dangerous roads though with ice being a factor.
    In ways maybe more enjoyable than a big freeze in that we should all see quite a bit of snow falling even if it doesn't stick. More an 80's type event really rather than the extreme big freezes of the 2010


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Pangea wrote: »
    Not necessarily, I said the same thing a few years ago, the ground was very wet and it started to snow and got colder and colder and it stuck and the snow that day was very heavy.

    probably depends how heavy the precipitation is. it often happens that it starts off spitting rain and gets heavier turning to snow. I am hoping for heavy stuff coming sunday!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Yes it is looking a mix of rain and snow at the moment
    Very dangerous roads though with ice being a factor.
    In ways maybe more enjoyable than a big freeze in that we should all see quite a bit of snow falling even if it doesn't stick. More an 80's type event really rather than the extreme big freezes of the 2010

    I presume the further inland and higher up one is the better?


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭fontenoy7


    There were major freezes in the east in 2009, 2010 with massive snowfall for Dublin, Wicklow, Wexford areas although not for the South east in 2010.

    There was major snowfall in Dublin for a week in 2008 as well. I am not being smart here but there was no major snowfall at low levels in the South during this period..a couple of days after Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Yes it is looking a mix of rain and snow at the moment
    Very dangerous roads though with ice being a factor.
    In ways maybe more enjoyable than a big freeze in that we should all see quite a bit of snow falling even if it doesn't stick. More an 80's type event really rather than the extreme big freezes of the 2010

    Personally I'd rather a couple centimeters of snow that will stick around for a few days than 24 hours of wet crap that just teases you melting on the ground.

    But yeah, it will work out well for some and will be a pure 80s style for those lucky recipients!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Meteo times and Im outside the yellow line :(

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭Rougies


    fontenoy7 wrote: »
    There were major freezes in the east in 2009, 2010 with massive snowfall for Dublin, Wicklow, Wexford areas although not for the South east in 2010.

    There was major snowfall in Dublin for a week in 2008 as well. I am not being smart here but there was no major snowfall at low levels in the South during this period..a couple of days after Christmas.

    What does that have to do with the price of peanuts? It's 2013 and the setup is completely different!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭icesnowfrost


    Anyone no what's wrong with the " let it snow and be cold ramping thread " ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Just a comparison of 850 temps between the global GFS model and the higher resolution regional NAE model, for just 42 hours from now.

    Look at Ulster, a difference of 5 degrees at less then 48 hours is huge when the difference between rain and snow is so tight in marginal setups.

    GFS on left, NAE on right.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Blizzard 2010


    Chong wrote: »
    Can I ask a really ignorant question, as I know zero about weather.

    I live in Dublin city, what are the chances over next few days that we will have snow of any worth?
    The probabilities are, we will get a pasting. A relatively warm Irish Sea and Bitterly Cold Easterly winds= a load of snow. Initially we will probably start off with rain but that will readily turn to snow as the day goes on as the cold air starts to kick in.;)Your question is not an ignorant one by any means


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Pangea wrote: »
    Meteo times and Im outside the yellow line :(

    is that for Friday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Just a comparison of 850 temps between the global GFS model and the higher resolution regional NAE model, for just 42 hours from now.

    Look at Ulster, a difference of 5 degrees at less then 48 hours is huge when the difference between rain and snow is so tight in marginal setups.

    GFS on left, NAE on right.

    The NAE has been trending colder for the past few runs too. 12z will be very interesting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Just a comparison of 850 temps between the global GFS model and the higher resolution regional NAE model, for just 42 hours from now.

    Look at Ulster, a difference of 5 degrees at less then 48 hours is huge when the difference between rain and snow is so tight in marginal setups.

    GFS on left, NAE on right.

    fK9vY.jpg

    How far does that go out Maq? Am i right in saying colder air is filtering west over the weekend? Met Eireann have temperature dropping significantly from Saturday onwards in their forecast?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭irish1967


    Pangea wrote: »
    Meteo times and Im outside the yellow line :(

    UAzRul.jpg
    Talk about knife edge... I'm about 1mm inside the yellow..phew:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭Deank


    Anyone no what's wrong with the " let it snow and be cold ramping thread " ?

    That thread is now closed, there is a new one http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056857548


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Lads, that map was out of date 5 minutes after it was created. I wouldn't even look at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    UK Met Office has a red warning for part of Wales for blizzards & severe drifting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    How far does that go out Maq? Am i right in saying colder air is filtering west over the weekend? Met Eireann have temperature dropping significantly from Saturday onwards in their forecast?

    Only goes out 48 hours.

    Hard to know about the weekend yet. Nothing nailed at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Pangea wrote: »
    Meteo times and Im outside the yellow line :(

    UAzRul.jpg



    Sorry Pangea... i should of been more thoughtful ...

    You can still hope :)
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    http://www.meteotimes.net/2013/01/something-wintry-this-way-comes-ireland.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    UK Met Office just issued an Amber Warning for Northern Ireland.
    Amber Warning of Snow18 Jan 2013, 12:00
    Amber Warning of Snow

    Valid From: 18 Jan 2013, 12:00
    Valid To: 19 Jan 2013, 09:00
    Issued at - 17 Jan 2013, 12:48
    Valid from - 18 Jan 2013, 12:00
    Valid to - 19 Jan 2013, 09:00

    Rain will turn increasingly to sleet and then snow at all levels across Northern Ireland during the course of Friday afternoon and evening, with some placing receiving accumulations of 5-10 cm of snow overnight into Saturday and as much as 15-20 cm above 200 metres, with drifting in the strengthening east to northeasterly winds.

    The public should be prepared for travel disruption.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    fontenoy7 wrote: »
    There were major freezes in the east in 2009, 2010 with massive snowfall for Dublin, Wicklow, Wexford areas although not for the South east in 2010.

    There was major snowfall in Dublin for a week in 2008 as well. I am not being smart here but there was no major snowfall at low levels in the South during this period..a couple of days after Christmas.

    I think people get the picture already, nearly every one of your posts talks about snow in Dublin and Wicklow!

    Not a lot of point looking at the likes of GFS for tomorrow, high res models should have the specifics more accurate, I've always found NAE unreliable for rainfall projections but seems its the best available now the Hirlam models aren't available anymore. Coamps on weatheronline seems to have a very high res but can't say I've ever used it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭irish1967


    BBC giving snow for full east coast from early tomorrow. (8am) Donegal getting it most of the day :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


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    Upgrades continue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Spindle


    Well I can confirm the wind has started to pick up in Cork. I await with bated breath the arrival of the rain, here is hoping that it turns to snow further up the country and then returns back to us with snow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    Harps wrote: »
    I think people get the picture already, nearly every one of your posts talks about snow in Dublin and Wicklow!

    Not a lot of point looking at the likes of GFS for tomorrow, high res models should have the specifics more accurate, I've always found NAE unreliable for rainfall projections but seems its the best available now the Hirlam models aren't available anymore. Coamps on weatheronline seems to have a very high res but can't say I've ever used it

    True, when other areas did get a lot of snow, including the south east as I know only too well!!!
    Same for some in other areas of the country, Cavan comes to mind with that huge fall of snow in March 2010.
    Beats anything elsewhere from the pictures I saw of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭tylercollins


    Never been so happy to see this!!!! Who's coming snow chasing tomorrow?


  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Blizzard 2010


    The Met O have a Be Prepared warning for the North


  • Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭diceyd


    hi guys,is it possible for anything to happen today?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    diceyd wrote: »
    hi guys,is it possible for anything to happen today?

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Never been so happy to see this!!!! Who's coming snow chasing tomorrow?

    I will be very jealous of you tomorrow. :D UK Met Office going for up to 10cm at lower levels there tomorrow, and they are usually on the conservative side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    With all the rain forecast tonight it will be hard for any snow to stick


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Iancar29 wrote: »
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    For people hoping for widespread snowmageddon in the next 24 hours, I'd say this map pretty much sums up well what is more likely to happen, based on current models.

    As anxious as I am to see snow....what makes me more anxious (well not really) is the prospects of posts tomorrow say the likes of 'you told us it was going to snow', etc., etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Warning for Saturday and Sunday too
    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/ni/ni_forecast_warnings.html?day=2
    Iancar29 wrote: »
    Sorry Pangea... i should of been more thoughtful ...

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    Thats better :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ThreeLineWhip


    I am dissapointed with nothing for the midlands.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings/#?tab=map&map=Warnings&fcTime=1358337660&zoom=5&lon=-4.50&lat=55.74

    20-30cm for parts of Wales on Friday. Impressive. I will report how much the Wicklow Mountains get tomorrow evening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭Reiketsu


    Looks like I might have some fun getting to work tomorrow. The bus might not make it over the Glenshane :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭tylercollins


    I will be very jealous of you tomorrow. :D UK Met Office going for up to 10cm at lower levels there tomorrow, and they are usually on the conservative side.

    My door is open to everyone who wants to come up for the weekend lol

    I'll have plenty of video footage and pictures :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭compsys


    That Sky News graph is showing 3 to 4 Celsius over much of Ireland.

    Does that not seem a bit warm for snow?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    compsys wrote: »
    That Sky News graph is showing 3 to 4 Celsius over much of Ireland.

    Does that not seem a bit warm for snow?

    I think it's the dew point temperature that is more important. I saw a snow shower pass through Dublin last weekend and I think it was 5 degrees


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭hollster2


    Just made it yay bring on the white stuff :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Looks like a higher elevation show tomo :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Id listen to our own met rather than sky news.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Looks like a higher elevation show tomo :(

    Except it seems in parts of the north and east. Could well be snow at lower levels too. Will be interesting to see model updates later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭compsys


    I think it's the dew point temperature that is more important. I saw a snow shower pass through Dublin last weekend and I think it was 5 degrees

    Yeah, I realise there's more factors to take into account for snow that simply the temperature (dew point, dam line, intensity of precipitation, on-shore breezes etc.)

    However, I still would have thought that in most circumstances a temp of 2 or 3 degrees max is what is bearable for half-decent snow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    compsys wrote: »
    That Sky News graph is showing 3 to 4 Celsius over much of Ireland.

    Does that not seem a bit warm for snow?

    You can get snow at 4c as long as dp temp isn't above freezing. Not likely to accumulate though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,336 ✭✭✭arctictree


    They look like max temperatures.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Harps wrote: »
    I think people get the picture already, nearly every one of your posts talks about snow in Dublin and Wicklow!

    Not a lot of point looking at the likes of GFS for tomorrow, high res models should have the specifics more accurate, I've always found NAE unreliable for rainfall projections but seems its the best available now the Hirlam models aren't available anymore. Coamps on weatheronline seems to have a very high res but can't say I've ever used it

    Estonian HIRLAM. Very good, have seen it forecast individual showers before!

    http://www.emhi.ee/index.php?ide=19,394,416,418


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