RTE 1: 'Today' with Claire Byrne

Brendan Bendar · 13-09-2020 8:36am

Uhmmm..... lot of anger here,it seems.

dulpit · 13-09-2020 9:14am

Was going to comment on the Gathering. 3 issues:

They could do with varying the guests a bit more. Colm Brophy, Sarah Carey and Collette Brown seem to be on every 2nd week.
There's a thing that politicians do (I think anyway) where they deliberately mispronounce Fine Gael (rhyming Fine with wine). They do it more often when on with a FGer. Think the Healy Raes. Colm Brophy was doing the same with Aodhán here, he switched to calling him Aidan (and really going for it towards the end) as a wind-up. Good on AOR to call him out.
Claire Byrne isn't good at these round tables with lots of talking heads. She wasn't able to get on top of the conversation and keeping one at a time. And then when she was ready to move on, she just cut off instead of allowing a flow. It's like she has a card that says "Covid discussion - 8 minutes", and once 8 minutes is ready she must move on. Having said that, she's not too bad on the one-to-one interviews. Hopefully show will improve...

elperello · 13-09-2020 11:22am

Pelvis Parsley wrote: »

I'm not struggling at all. I am perfectly clear in my mind.

The only surprising outcome in all this was how readily it appears to have triggered you.

OK you're not struggling and I'm not triggered.

Brendan Bendar · 13-09-2020 11:44am

dulpit wrote: »

Was going to comment on the Gathering. 3 issues:
They could do with varying the guests a bit more. Colm Brophy, Sarah Carey and Collette Brown seem to be on every 2nd week.

There's a thing that politicians do (I think anyway) where they deliberately mispronounce Fine Gael (rhyming Fine with wine). They do it more often when on with a FGer. Think the Healy Raes. Colm Brophy was doing the same with Aodhán here, he switched to calling him Aidan (and really going for it towards the end) as a wind-up. Good on AOR to call him out.

Claire Byrne isn't good at these round tables with lots of talking heads. She wasn't able to get on top of the conversation and keeping one at a time. And then when she was ready to move on, she just cut off instead of allowing a flow. It's like she has a card that says "Covid discussion - 8 minutes", and once 8 minutes is ready she must move on. Having said that, she's not too bad on the one-to-one interviews. Hopefully show will improve...

Agree with most of that except maybe the cut off bit.

That lot would keep going against a hurricane,neither would let the other get an inch without disrupting.

If I was the producer I would politely point out, after listening carefully to the replay that anyone who continually interrupted ,didn’t stop when requested by the presenter, would be told before the next time they were invited on.

If they didn’t comply, I would never let let them near any other shows I produced again.

Fairly simple.

Pelvis Parsley · 13-09-2020 12:48pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Agree with most of that except maybe the cut off bit.

That lot would keep going against a hurricane,neither would let the other get an inch without disrupting.

If I was the producer I would politely point out, after listening carefully to the replay that anyone who continually interrupted ,didn’t stop when requested by the presenter, would be told before the next time they were invited on.

If they didn’t comply, I would never let let them near any other shows I produced again.

Fairly simple.

Agree ++

Infoanon · 14-09-2020 10:08am

Interested parties lined up.....

Vintners first.....

walshb · 14-09-2020 10:43am

FFS, more people on moaning about their social media experiences...

Get the fook off it if you can’t handle it..

Boring repetitive Sh1t..

walshb · 14-09-2020 10:46am

Get a fooking grip, Claire...

Carlsberg don’t do social media!!

The problem is not the abuse, it’s the incessant attention seekers online..

Cole · 14-09-2020 10:53am

This whole social media discussion is like another world to me, but it's interesting...in a tragic kind of way.

bossdrum · 14-09-2020 11:43am

I can't believe how bad this program has become and I used to like Claire Byrne.
The social media rubbish on today in the first hour as well as on Friday is a real change in what i remember the program being.

Does this mean that Claire has an input to what topics are covered? The same thing happened with her television program.

14-09-2020 12:04pm

She seems to be developing a bit of an obsession about social media. The trouble with it is that it can be a platform for self importance if the posting is coming across more about oneself than about another focus, eg one's hobby of photographing wildflowers or music artists. There is no excuse for the class of abuse that happens, but it is human nature to respond somewhat negatively to Individuals who appear to elevate themselves into a self-promoting platform.

Claire said that she considers any criticism hard to take, and that the abusive trolling must be so much worse. It just shows, she herself has admitted there at not being good at handling negative feedback, which is not a great way to be for somebody with a daily public presence on the airwaves. Moderate criticism, not personal abuse, should be seen as helpful feedback.

Brendan Bendar · 14-09-2020 6:45pm

Deleted User wrote: »

She seems to be developing a bit of an obsession about social media. The trouble with it is that it can be a platform for self importance if the posting is coming across more about oneself than about another focus, eg one's hobby of photographing wildflowers or music artists. There is no excuse for the class of abuse that happens, but it is human nature to respond somewhat negatively to Individuals who appear to elevate themselves into a self-promoting platform.

Claire said that she considers any criticism hard to take, and that the abusive trolling must be so much worse. It just shows, she herself has admitted there at not being good at handling negative feedback, which is not a great way to be for somebody with a daily public presence on the airwaves. Moderate criticism, not personal abuse, should be seen as helpful feedback.

Correct Cat, these people seem to think that they can use a state media platform,paid for by the taxpayer to speak ‘ex cathedra’ on subjects they like.

Journalists seem to think they can toss out their ideals from a media outlet and that the great unwashed should not bite back and see through their agenda.

Clare needs to develope a thicker skin if this is her opening salvo.

jimwallace197 · 14-09-2020 8:03pm

It's her level, anything unprepared and the whole tone of it needs to be dumbed down so she is not found out. Anything unexpected, no, absolutely no or someone who is capable of a high level of discussion.

Always in any organisation, when the top is rotten (Dee Forbes), then you can expect this kind of nonsense. More interested in berating the common man about non payment of the licence fee then looking at the organisation she is meant to be tasked with running for its failing in providing any sort of decent platform for those which it claims to represent. The Irish people.

Only way to deal with them is through mass non payment of the licence fee. Unfortunately in this country we are far too subservient which makes it no surprise the English ruled us for nearly 400 years.

Brendan Bendar · 15-09-2020 5:18am

jimwallace197 wrote: »

It's her level, anything unprepared and the whole tone of it needs to be dumbed down so she is not found out. Anything unexpected, no, absolutely no or someone who is capable of a high level of discussion.

Always in any organisation, when the top is rotten (Dee Forbes), then you can expect this kind of nonsense. More interested in berating the common man about non payment of the licence fee then looking at the organisation she is meant to be tasked with running for its failing in providing any sort of decent platform for those which it claims to represent. The Irish people.

Only way to deal with them is through mass non payment of the licence fee. Unfortunately in this country we are far too subservient which makes it no surprise the English ruled us for nearly 400 years.

Jaysus Jim........glad you lanced that boil, I’d say.

Well done.

Cole · 16-09-2020 10:46am

Alan Kelly saying he's being "constructive"...but in a confused kind of way of course. The confusion virus spreading.

imme · 16-09-2020 11:00am

Cole wrote: »

Alan Kelly saying he's being "constructive"...but in a confused kind of way of course. The confusion virus spreading.

Ak47 started off the interview by saying that he was fully behind the government then had totally changed his mind by the end of the interview.

He's always good for a laugh is our Alan.

boardise · 16-09-2020 11:02am

I must say I was impressed by Michael McGrath this morning. Strong confident performance.

Cole · 16-09-2020 11:17am

boardise wrote: »

I must say I was impressed by Michael McGrath this morning. Strong confident performance.

Yes. Countered the confusion narrative and addressed any legitimate area of questioning around the plan in a calm, confident way.

Infoanon · 16-09-2020 4:00pm

Cole wrote: »

Yes. Countered the confusion narrative and addressed any legitimate area of questioning around the plan in a calm, confident way.

It was a good performance, however you can't really blame the media for the confusion narrative - it was handed to them on a plate.

Cole · 16-09-2020 5:13pm

Infoanon wrote: »

It was a good performance, however you can't really blame the media for the confusion narrative - it was handed to them on a plate.

I can blame them...and some politicians. For example, David McCullagh with MM on the Six One News yesterday finding flaws/confusion in the plan, only to have the details pointed out to him.

Areas for genuine clarification...yes...but confusion...no.

Infoanon · 16-09-2020 5:22pm

Cole wrote: »

I can blame them...and some politicians. For example, David McCullagh with MM on the Six One News yesterday finding flaws/confusion in the plan, only to have the details pointed out to him.

Areas for genuine clarification...yes...but confusion...no.

When clarity isnt given ,when ministers contradict each other it's a bit rich to blame the media

Cole · 16-09-2020 5:37pm

Infoanon wrote: »

When clarity isnt given ,when ministers contradict each other it's a bit rich to blame the media

Of course they should seek clarity but claims of "chaos" around the plan, that many are throwing around, are just ridiculous...and again I do blame the media for stoking this. For example, Bryan Dobson's opening sentence on Morning Ireland today..."chaos and confusion" like this was a fact.

16-09-2020 8:22pm

The minute that the five levels suddenly expanded to include level 2.5, the clarity disappeared.

Bellbottoms · 17-09-2020 11:22am

I was surprised to hear JOC say FF are a center left party. Thought I was hearing things.

Grolschevik · 17-09-2020 11:24am

Bellbottoms wrote: »

I was surprised to hear JOC say FF are a center left party. Thought I was hearing things.

I'm not surprised he would say it.

I'm surprised that anyone would believe it.

Losty Dublin · 17-09-2020 11:26am

RBB didn't have to try hard to run rings around Claire just now. She was far too scared to butt in and may as well have nipped out for a coffee break there the little she said. God help us when some of the more mouthy PBP types come into studio for a debate.

Cole · 18-09-2020 10:58am

"The yoga community really needs to be supported now"...

Where can I make a donation...surely there's a petition somewhere...a day to show our appreciation

Brendan Bendar · 18-09-2020 11:35am

The Gathering could be volatile.

O’Reilly seems a bit less frantic.

Maybe someone had a chat with Clare last week.

Infoanon · 18-09-2020 12:17pm

Josepha well able to deal with Louise despite Louise best attempts to shout over her

Brendan Bendar · 18-09-2020 12:49pm

Infoanon wrote: »

Josepha well able to deal with Louise despite Louise best attempts to shout over her

Someone from ‘upstairs’ obviously had a word with Clare.

And Clare seems to have had a word with the guests.

“Let’s not have that shambles we had last week” was the probable advice.

Louise started off at a much slower pace than the 150 mph and rising she usually starts off with.

Yes Josepha did well and the journo was even a bit less critical than usual.

Clare dropped the Storey ‘bomb’ on Louise right at the end and in fairness she handled it well too.

We. Shall. See.:D

Spanish Eyes · 18-09-2020 1:33pm

Today with CB is the most boring naff show on prime time radio now. Listened back a few times over the week to make sure I was feeling OK, and yep. Bland, boring, no challenges, chewing gum for the ears.

Pat Kenny or LBC for me now.

Will Yam · 18-09-2020 1:46pm

Infoanon wrote: »

Josepha well able to deal with Louise despite Louise best attempts to shout over her

Louise is good at shouting over people. Years of practice.

Brendan Bendar · 18-09-2020 1:46pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Today with CB is the most boring naff show on prime time radio now. Listened back a few times over the week to make sure I was feeling OK, and yep. Bland, boring, no challenges, chewing gum for the ears.

Pat Kenny or LBC for me now.

Would’t be quite so critical but certainly on the way.

Will Yam · 18-09-2020 1:48pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Today with CB is the most boring naff show on prime time radio now. Listened back a few times over the week to make sure I was feeling OK, and yep. Bland, boring, no challenges, chewing gum for the ears.

Pat Kenny or LBC for me now.

The only problem with Newsrant is exactly that - the ranting.

“Dr” Ciara Kelly excelled herself this morning, and then we moved on to Pat who continued on ranting about masks.

Mad_maxx · 18-09-2020 1:49pm

Bellbottoms wrote: »

I was surprised to hear JOC say FF are a center left party. Thought I was hearing things.

what else could you call them ?

Bellbottoms · 18-09-2020 1:57pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

what else could you call them ?

I would of thought slightly right of center.

Spanish Eyes · 18-09-2020 2:40pm

Will Yam wrote: »

The only problem with Newsrant is exactly that - the ranting.

“Dr” Ciara Kelly excelled herself this morning, and then we moved on to Pat who continued on ranting about masks.

Better a rant than a soporific yawnfest on radio IMO.

Mad_maxx · 18-09-2020 5:30pm

Bellbottoms wrote: »

I would of thought slightly right of center.

Most certainly not

Will Yam · 18-09-2020 11:01pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Better a rant than a soporific yawnfest on radio IMO.

An occasional rant is ok, but not when it goes on and on and on.

Like Kenny when he starts harrumphing about masks.

dulpit · 21-09-2020 4:22pm

Listened back to some of today's show. The interview with Sam Bennett was a prime example of how this show has changed with Claire Byrne. They spent about half the interview talking to his mother, playing clips of his grandfather, she joked about making him cry. It came across as an interview from the Life magazine rather than the main paper if that makes sense. Shame really, it's fallen so quickly.

ford fiesta · 21-09-2020 4:28pm

dulpit wrote: »

Listened back to some of today's show. The interview with Sam Bennett was a prime example of how this show has changed with Claire Byrne. They spent about half the interview talking to his mother, playing clips of his grandfather, she joked about making him cry. It came across as an interview from the Life magazine rather than the main paper if that makes sense. Shame really, it's fallen so quickly.

Could have been all covered/summaried on Morning Ireland (and it kind of was).

Though it's a good news story for a change, that's why it was on Today with Claire Byrne

dulpit · 21-09-2020 4:35pm

ford fiesta wrote: »

Could have been all covered/summaried on Morning Ireland (and it kind of was).

Though it's a good news story for a change, that's why it was on Today with Claire Byrne

No issues with them covering it, it's big news. But it was the way it was covered.

Losty Dublin · 22-09-2020 10:13am

Excuse me for saying this but the man she is interviewing now about Covid19 is wheezing and snorting and panting that much that he sounds as if he has it.

Clon63 · 22-09-2020 10:34am

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Excuse me for saying this but the man she is interviewing now about Covid19 is wheezing and snorting and panting that much that he sounds as if he has it.

Was thinking exactly the same Not good

Infoanon · 22-09-2020 11:36am

Prof Martin McKee is very good , I am glad Claire didn't interrupt.

23-09-2020 11:02am

Listening to the show today, to me it seems she is trying to cram stuff into her magazine show, which means there is only time for a given set of questions to be answered and not explored beyond what is on the agenda. It is quite visible how rigidly she sticks with the format, and the sluggishness of this thread posdibly reflects a wider audience not tuned in.

23-09-2020 11:10am

Regarding the Annie McCarrick case being discussed with private investigator on the show, why the heck did that employee of the cafe in Enniskerry fail to report having allegedly seen her there?

sligojoek · 23-09-2020 11:43am

This crap about the president's dog belongs on Tubridy or Darcy. Are there no politicians to be grilled about ongoing important issues.

sligojoek · 23-09-2020 11:50am

A guest called Agnes Boucher Hayes. I wonder who she's related to.

jippo nolan · 23-09-2020 11:53am

sligojoek wrote: »

A guest called Agnes Boucher Hayes. I wonder who she's related to.

Probably ex Shelbourne footballer, Dougie Boucher!

RTE 1: 'Today' with Claire Byrne

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