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  • #102
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Caraibh wrote: »
    The Great Reset script. The one that all Western governments appear to be reading from.
    Again what script is this?
    You're not actually explaining what the "script" is.

    It seems to only exist in your imaginayion
    Caraibh wrote: »
    Are you seriously suggesting that they all just happened to think of 'new normal' at the same time five minutes after the pandemic was declared?
    As opposed the the alternative explanation that it's all a big giant conspiracy?

    Yes that is what I'm seriously suggesting.
    Caraibh wrote: »
    There's enough on the internet about the Great Reset. It's all over WEF's website.
    Cool please quote where they state it's their plan to fake a pandemic.
    Please also provide the link to that quite as we've seen you aren't very honest about articles you post.
    Caraibh wrote: »
    Isn't that evidence, but not proof, that the whole thing was planned?
    No. It's neither proof nor evidence.

    Conspiracy theorists like yourself often make these claims buy can't actually actually defend them.
    For example a fellow recently claimed that their goal was to abolish ownership, but when challenged he could only argue that "they tweeted something therefore that was evidence."
    It was very silly and quite embarrassing.

    Also you missed the question I asked. Why are you so concerned when you haven't actually read the book in question?
    Why haven't you read the book yet? How far are you into it?

    I find it very odd that folks like yourself believe that this evil plot is happening yet you don't seem that bothered to read the book that lays it out for you.


  • #103
    silliussoddius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Funny MAGA never attracted this kind of attention from the keyboard cops.


  • #104
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Caraibh wrote: »
    What millions of people are saying all across the world (in Canada there was a protest against the Great Reset the other day and a Canadian MP has even created a petition to stop the Great Reset): that this was either, it is being taken advantage of, to destroy capitalism and replace it with socialism.

    There are plenty of people who believe in ghosts, does that make them real? No. People have the capacity to believe really stupid stuff as we all know.

    There is no mega-global "plan" to replace capitalism with socialism, there is no evidence for such a plan. The only evidence that exists are conspiracy theorists fantasizing about a mega-global conspiracy, which is what they always fantasize about.


  • #105
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    There are plenty of people who believe in ghosts, does that make them real? No. People have the capacity to believe really stupid stuff as we all know.

    There is no mega-global "plan" to replace capitalism with socialism, there is no evidence for such a plan. The only evidence that exists are conspiracy theorists fantasizing about a mega-global conspiracy, which is what they always fantasize about.

    Schwab wants to replace capitalism with stakeholder capitalism. He's said he wants to.


  • #106
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Caraibh wrote: »
    Schwab wants to replace capitalism with stakeholder capitalism. He's said he wants to.

    I want an Aston Martin DB9 for Xmas, doesn't mean that's going to happen either.


  • #107
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    I want an Aston Martin DB9 for Xmas, doesn't mean that's going to happen either.

    Whether it will happen or not isn't the point. The head of WEF, which is behind the Great Reset, is calling for capitalism to be replaced. The poster claimed there was no evidence of a plan to abolish capitalism.


  • #108
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Caraibh wrote: »
    Schwab wants to replace capitalism with stakeholder capitalism. He's said he wants to.

    No one is replacing "capitalism with socialism".

    At this stage I know how conspiracy theorists think, and no that isn't happening.


  • #109
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    No one is replacing "capitalism with socialism".

    At this stage I know how conspiracy theorists think, and no that isn't happening.

    Then why is Schwab pushing for capitalism to be replaced by stakeholder capitalism?


  • #110
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Caraibh wrote: »
    Then why is Schwab pushing for capitalism to be replaced by stakeholder capitalism?

    This guy hosts an international discussion forum, it's just a forum, he doesn't make policy, he's not a world leader. He's just a guy with economic experience.

    Here is info about stakeholder capitalism from a non-conspiracy (read: non-insane) source
    https://time.com/collection/great-reset/5900748/klaus-schwab-capitalism/

    If there are parts you don't understand, just ask. Don't automatically assume some nefarious conspiracy explanation.


  • #111
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Caraibh wrote: »
    Schwab wants to replace capitalism with stakeholder capitalism. He's said he wants to.
    Is this what he claims in the book you haven't read?


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  • #112
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Is this what he claims in the book you haven't read?

    It's what he has claimed in numerous interviews and in the book. He has been talking about stakeholder capitalism for over 30 years.

    Who elected Klaus Schwab to reset the planet? What mandate does he have for doing it?


  • #113
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    This guy hosts an international discussion forum, it's just a forum, he doesn't make policy, he's not a world leader. He's just a guy with economic experience.

    Here is info about stakeholder capitalism from a non-conspiracy (read: non-insane) source
    https://time.com/collection/great-reset/5900748/klaus-schwab-capitalism/

    If there are parts you don't understand, just ask. Don't automatically assume some nefarious conspiracy explanation.

    What mandate does he have for resetting the planet and for replacing capitalism with his stakeholder capitalism?


  • #114
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Caraibh wrote: »
    It's what he has claimed in numerous interviews and in the book. He has been talking about stakeholder capitalism for over 30 years.

    Who elected Klaus Schwab to reset the planet? What mandate does he have for doing it?
    How do you know what's in the book? You haven't read it.

    Also it's weird your accusing him of this when the other conspiracy theorists here have been accusing him of wanting the abolish capitalism in favour of communism.

    Why do you believe those conspiracy theorists were wrong?


  • #115
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    How do you know what's in the book? You haven't read it.

    Also it's weird your accusing him of this when the other conspiracy theorists here have been accusing him of wanting the abolish capitalism in favour of communism.

    Why do you believe those conspiracy theorists were wrong?

    I've read passages from the book.

    I guess they take his stakeholder capitalism to mean communism.


  • #116
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Caraibh wrote: »
    What mandate does he have for resetting the planet and for replacing capitalism with his stakeholder capitalism?

    No one is "resetting" the planet in the way you imagine. No one is replacing capitalism with stakeholder capitalism. And no, private ownership is not going to be "abolished".

    The common denominator here is you misinterpreting stuff, and despite how many times it's clearly pointed out, you seem to just keep doing it over and over again.


  • #117
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Caraibh wrote: »
    I've read passages from the book..
    But you haven't read the book.
    Why haven't you read the book when you are so worried about it.

    This is a very weird trend amoung you guys.
    Caraibh wrote: »
    I guess they take his stakeholder capitalism to mean communism.
    They said the plan was to abolish ownership.
    Do you agree with this claim?
    If not, why would these other conspiracy theorists get such a wrong idea?


  • #118
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    No one is "resetting" the planet in the way you imagine. No one is replacing capitalism with stakeholder capitalism. And no, private ownership is not going to be "abolished".

    The common denominator here is you misinterpreting stuff, and despite how many times it's clearly pointed out, you seem to just keep doing it over and over again.

    From the World Economic Forum's website:

    "the world must act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions. Every country, from the United States to China, must participate, and every industry, from oil and gas to tech, must be transformed. In short, we need a “Great Reset” of capitalism."

    What does "revamp all aspects of our societies" mean?

    And he wants to transform all industries. What mandate does he have to do that?


  • #119
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    But you haven't read the book.
    Why haven't you read the book when you are so worried about it.

    This is a very weird trend amoung you guys.


    They said the plan was to abolish ownership.
    Do you agree with this claim?
    If not, why would these other conspiracy theorists get such a wrong idea?

    I've read passages. It's also weird that you ignore the fact that the Great Reset is plastered all over WEF's website and on its Twitter page. What do you make of the following:

    "the world must act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions. Every country, from the United States to China, must participate, and every industry, from oil and gas to tech, must be transformed. In short, we need a “Great Reset” of capitalism."

    Who gave Schwab a mandate to do the above?

    Also, you never answered the question about Health Passport Ireland during the swine flu pandemic. Did they run a national trial for the passport in 2009? You said people were claiming the exact same thing they're claiming now back then? What did people specifically say in 2009 about Health Passport Ireland?


  • #120
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    Also from the WEF website:

    "This is our best chance to instigate stakeholder capitalism."

    "We must build entirely new foundations for our economic and social systems."

    So they do indeed seem to want to replace capitalism with stakeholder capitalism. Or did I make it up?

    They clearly don't see the pandemic as a tragedy, but as an opportunity. Nice guys, aren't they?

    Who gave them a mandate to build "entirely new foundations for our economic and social systems."?


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  • #121
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Fodla wrote:
    What do people think about more and more world leaders using the slogan 'Build Back Better'? Johnson, Biden, Trudeau, the Head of WHO, to name but a few. No sooner had the pandemic been declared than did almost every world leader start talking about a "new normal". And now they're going to build back better it seems. Do you think it's just a coincidence that they're (once again) all saying the same thing?

    Yes world leaders have been trying to signal unity, since fcuk whits such as trump have been trying to do the opposite over the last couple of years, there's no conspiracy, just intelligent politics


  • #122
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Yes world leaders have been trying to signal unity, since fcuk whits such as trump have been trying to do the opposite over the last couple of years, there's no conspiracy, just intelligent politics

    And as part of the Great Reset, the World Economic Forum wants to build "entirely new foundations for our economic and social systems" and sees this tragedy as the best chance"to instigate stakeholder capitalism". Does it have a mandate to do that? Does it appear that the World Economic Forum cares about the deaths as a result of COVID-19 since it says that all of this is "the best chance"?


  • #123
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Caraibh wrote: »
    And as part of the Great Reset, the World Economic Forum wants to build "entirely new foundations for our economic and social systems" and sees this tragedy as the best chance"to instigate stakeholder capitalism". Does it have a mandate to do that? Does it appear that the World Economic Forum cares about the deaths as a result of COVID-19 since it says that all of this is "the best chance"?

    What exactly are tour fears here? This is the conspiracy forum, whats the conspiracy?

    You keep copy/pasting the same things yet can't seem to explain what the conspiracy is and why its so bad.


  • #124
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    What exactly are tour fears here? This is the conspiracy forum, whats the conspiracy?

    You keep copy/pasting the same things yet can't seem to explain what the conspiracy is and why its so bad.

    That they want to replace the present world with their future new normal world. Hence the new for the "entirely new foundations" and Schwab's repeated insistence that the world cannot return to what he calls the "old normal". I'm just wondering what mandate he has to do that.

    I don't really know why the Great Reset is in the conspiracy forum. Wouldn't it be a good thing to discuss the "entirely new foundations" and the instigation of "stakeholder capitalism" in the COVID-19 forum?


  • #125
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Caraibh wrote: »
    That they want to replace the present world with their future new normal world. Hence the new for the "entirely new foundations" and Schwab's repeated insistence that the world cannot return to what he calls the "old normal". I'm just wondering what mandate he has to do that.

    I don't really know why the Great Reset is in the conspiracy forum. Wouldn't it be a good thing to discuss the "entirely new foundations" and the instigation of "stakeholder capitalism" in the COVID-19 forum?

    Forget about any mandate

    Ask yourself if he had the POWER to do that?

    Anyone can postulate what life would be like under different financial or political systems.

    He is simply an academic who heads up a discussion forum


  • #126
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Caraibh wrote: »
    That they want to replace the present world with their future new normal world. Hence the new for the "entirely new foundations" and Schwab's repeated insistence that the world cannot return to what he calls the "old normal". I'm just wondering what mandate he has to do that.

    I don't really know why the Great Reset is in the conspiracy forum. Wouldn't it be a good thing to discuss the "entirely new foundations" and the instigation of "stakeholder capitalism" in the COVID-19 forum?


    But hebis right, the world will never return to the "old normal" and believe it or not this will be a good thing.

    Why are you scared of that? Do you think there are nefarious reasons for him saying this? How do you see the world in say 10 years and how will it be different to how things are now and why would it be bad?


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  • #127
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Caraibh wrote: »
    Whether it will happen or not isn't the point. The head of WEF, which is behind the Great Reset, is calling for capitalism to be replaced. The poster claimed there was no evidence of a plan to abolish capitalism.

    The head of Timberrrrrrrr is calling for a DB9 for Xmas. It doesn’t mean it is planned or will happen. It means nothing. Anyone can call for anything they wish.


  • #128
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Caraibh wrote: »
    And as part of the Great Reset, the World Economic Forum wants to build "entirely new foundations for our economic and social systems" and sees this tragedy as the best chance"to instigate stakeholder capitalism". Does it have a mandate to do that? Does it appear that the World Economic Forum cares about the deaths as a result of COVID-19 since it says that all of this is "the best chance"?

    what? the wef isnt trying to intentionally fcuk you over, do they have wonky thinking, absolutely, but again, theres no world conspiracy here, you re confusing complex human behavior with conspiracy, again, there is none


  • #129
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Caraibh wrote: »
    That they want to replace the present world with their future new normal world. Hence the new for the "entirely new foundations" and Schwab's repeated insistence that the world cannot return to what he calls the "old normal". I'm just wondering what mandate he has to do that.

    I don't really know why the Great Reset is in the conspiracy forum. Wouldn't it be a good thing to discuss the "entirely new foundations" and the instigation of "stakeholder capitalism" in the COVID-19 forum?

    Are you 100% happy with the world at the moment, or as it was just before COVID?


  • #130
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Caraibh wrote: »
    I've read passages.
    Why haven't you read the book though?

    You're kind of killing your credibility by refusing to do this.

    If I thought that there was an evil plot to take over the world and on of the guys who was part of it wrote a book detailing the plan, it'd be the first thing I read.

    Yet you and other conspiracy theorists who are also worried about this plot don't seem all that bothered to read the book.
    Why not?


  • #131
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Forget about any mandate

    Ask yourself if he had the POWER to do that?

    Anyone can postulate what life would be like under different financial or political systems.

    He is simply an academic who heads up a discussion forum

    He seems to believe he has the power to do it. And if he doesn't have the power, he definitely has the influence. And look at all the organisations WEF is partners with. Huge corporations and companies.


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  • #132
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    But hebis right, the world will never return to the "old normal" and believe it or not this will be a good thing.

    Why are you scared of that? Do you think there are nefarious reasons for him saying this? How do you see the world in say 10 years and how will it be different to how things are now and why would it be bad?

    But Schwab said it wouldn't as far back as May/June. He knew that the world would never return to normal two months into a pandemic?

    My fear, based on a video the World Economic Forum produced recently about the world of work in 2025 in which the characters were all wearing masks, is permanent restrictions on our lives, permanent mask wearing (no evidence anywhere to suggest that that won't be the case) and a permanent new normal.


  • #133
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Caraibh wrote: »
    He seems to believe he has the power to do it. And if he doesn't have the power, he definitely has the influence. And look at all the organisations WEF is partners with. Huge corporations and companies.



  • #134
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Caraibh wrote: »

    My fear, based on a video the World Economic Forum produced recently about the world of work in 2025 in which the characters were all wearing masks, is permanent restrictions on our lives, permanent mask wearing (no evidence anywhere to suggest that that won't be the case) and a permanent new normal.

    Masks are to curb the spread of the virus, why would everyone be wearing them when there is no virus risk?

    You do realise that in places like Asia, before Covid, people chose to wear masks because of a) pollution and b) flu and c) a history of previous infectious diseases. Keyword: chose.


  • #135
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Masks are to curb the spread of the virus, why would everyone be wearing them when there is no virus risk?

    You do realise that in places like Asia, before Covid, people chose to wear masks because of a) pollution and b) flu and c) a history of previous infectious diseases. Keyword: chose.

    The World Economic Forum seems to envisage a world of permanent mask wearing based on that video about life in 2025.

    As long as it's a choice.


  • #136
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Caraibh wrote: »
    The World Economic Forum seems to envisage a world of permanent mask wearing based on that video about life in 2025.

    As long as it's a choice.

    no they dont, theres vaccines on the way, everyone knows this, including the folk at the wef


  • #137
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Caraibh wrote: »
    Also from the WEF website:

    "This is our best chance to instigate stakeholder capitalism."

    "We must build entirely new foundations for our economic and social systems."

    So they do indeed seem to want to replace capitalism with stakeholder capitalism. Or did I make it up?

    They clearly don't see the pandemic as a tragedy, but as an opportunity. Nice guys, aren't they?

    It is an opportunity, and we should be using it to make the world a better place, somehow.

    You can't (or don't want to) understand any of this and are distorting everything to fit some dystopia fantasy in your head.


  • #138
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Caraibh wrote: »
    My fear, based on a video the World Economic Forum produced recently about the world of work in 2025 in which the characters were all wearing masks, is permanent restrictions on our lives, permanent mask wearing (no evidence anywhere to suggest that that won't be the case) and a permanent new normal.

    https://www.weforum.org/videos/what-will-the-future-of-jobs-be-like

    you talking about this video?

    its an postulation as to where future jobs may lie. That sall.
    permanent mask wearing (no evidence anywhere to suggest that that won't be the case)
    no evidence of a negative does not mean evidence of a positive.... thats basic logic.
    a permanent new normal
    an oxymoron

    nothing stays the same.... nothing !!
    its a 1000% guarantee that things will change after this pandemic.

    thats not a conspiracy however.


  • #139
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    whilst caraibh seems to have an issue reading the source material

    here it is for anyone who is interested

    http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Future_of_Jobs_2020.pdf


  • #140
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can get the Great Reset really easily for free as well. I got it a few days to have a look. No excuse whatsoever for not reading something you spend longer posting about.


  • #141
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    https://www.weforum.org/videos/what-will-the-future-of-jobs-be-like

    you talking about this video?

    its an postulation as to where future jobs may lie. That sall.


    no evidence of a negative does not mean evidence of a positive.... thats basic logic.


    an oxymoron

    nothing stays the same.... nothing !!
    its a 1000% guarantee that things will change after this pandemic.

    thats not a conspiracy however.

    Yes, that's the one. Thanks. Note they're all wearing masks in the video.

    And now this from the UK: https://mobile.twitter.com/simondolan?prefetchtimestamp=1607087658589

    What's the point in getting the vaccine if nothing changes?


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  • #142
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Caraibh wrote: »
    Yes, that's the one. Thanks. Note they're all wearing masks in the video.

    they're not though

    Screenshot-7.jpg

    Screenshot-8.jpg

    Screenshot-9.jpg



    when they are in a group setting they are, which is what we all have to do now.... and it shows that going from a group setting to online we don't have to wear masks anymore... which is perfectly analogous to the point they are trying to make about promoting remote working.

    i serious worry that there is something in your mindset that sees a cartoon of people wearing masks and immediately your mind goes to "we all have to wear masks all the time in the future"


  • #143
    Caraibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Caraibh


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    they're not though

    Screenshot-7.jpg

    Screenshot-8.jpg

    Screenshot-9.jpg



    when they are in a group setting they are, which is what we all have to do now.... and it shows that going from a group setting to online we don't have to wear masks anymore... which is perfectly analogous to the point they are trying to make about promoting remote working.

    i serious worry that there is something in your mindset that sees a cartoon of people wearing masks and immediately your mind goes to "we all have to wear masks all the time in the future"

    But if they're wearing them in a group setting in the video about 2025 doesn't that mean that they envisage people wearing them in group settings in the real world in 2025? Do you expect people to wear them in group settings in 2025?


  • #144
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Caraibh wrote: »
    Do you expect people to wear them in group settings in 2025?

    enforced ??

    absolutely not


  • #145
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    sydthebeat wrote: »

    i serious worry that there is something in your mindset that sees a cartoon of people wearing masks and immediately your mind goes to "we all have to wear masks all the time in the future"

    and never with a logical explanation as to why.


  • #146
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    and never with a logical explanation as to why.
    The only explanation so far offered is that it is part of the satanic ploy to "dehumanise" people.


  • #147
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Caraibh wrote: »
    But if they're wearing them in a group setting in the video about 2025 doesn't that mean that they envisage people wearing them in group settings in the real world in 2025? Do you expect people to wear them in group settings in 2025?

    I remember as a child watching the jetsons, it too was a cartoon based on the future. I'm still waiting for my flying car, jep pack and holiday on the moon.


  • #148
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Masks are to curb the spread of the virus, why would everyone be wearing them when there is no virus risk?

    basically because people are wearing them because they are being recommended to wear them by their respective governments

    5 months ago masks were not reqd, just 2m social distance and hand sanitizing
    now its masks, even outdoors in "crowded areas" but not needed when you are in a restaurant/cafe

    How does that make sense?


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    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    I remember as a child watching the jetsons, it too was a cartoon based on the future. I'm still waiting for my flying car, jep pack and holiday on the moon.

    I remember watching Contagion in 2011 thinking it was total science fiction and that nothing like that could ever happen

    Its a reality now so nothings off the table


  • #150
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    basically because people are wearing them because they are being recommended to wear them by their respective governments

    5 months ago masks were not reqd, just 2m social distance and hand sanitizing
    now its masks, even outdoors in "crowded areas" but not needed when you are in a restaurant/cafe

    How does that make sense?

    Because it wasn't known how effective masks really were at the beginning of this pandemic. Now we have a much better idea.

    We've had pandemics before, but one of this scale and this type of unprecedented in modern times, there isn't some magic playbook, it's a learning process. The more data we get, the more we know what works and what doesn't work.

    Anyway, if there's some conspiracy here, what's the conspiracy explanation?


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  • #151
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    how can masks be effective when there are no regulations on them and people put them on any way they want
    you can make one from any material as long as you cover your face

    thats like saying you can use clingfilm or any material, put it on in the dark as a condom and it will help prevent the spread of STI's


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