Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

jr86 · 19-11-2018 6:30pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

They are a strange side in that some years in Galway they don't look that bothered but they seem to be motivated and having one of their good years this year..

They've been affected by injuries in a few campaigns, and have very little strength in depth beyond their usual first 15 to cope

Happyilylost · 19-11-2018 8:23pm

jr86 wrote:

They've been affected by injuries in a few campaigns, and have very little strength in depth beyond their usual first 15 to cope

Change of management for me was a big difference this year too. Things seemed a little less hectic. More heads less raw passion. For me this team should of dominated over the last number of years since they last won the All Ireland. Current team. David Burke and Conor Cooney are inter county players through and through. Next young gifted and possibly inter county players of the future would be Enna Burke, Shane Cooney and Fintan Burke. Above average club players I would see as James Regan, Bernard Burke, Donal Cooney and Darragh Burke (he's been exceptional in the last two games I've seen) The rest are mostly solid club players with very few very weak links. If they play to form I think they have a good chance of winning the All Ireland out.

jr86 · 19-11-2018 8:33pm

Happyilylost wrote: »

Change of management for me was a big difference this year too. Things seemed a little less hectic. More heads less raw passion. For me this team should of dominated over the last number of years since they last won the All Ireland. Current team. David Burke and Conor Cooney are inter county players through and through. Next young gifted and possibly inter county players of the future would be Enna Burke, Shane Cooney and Fintan Burke. Above average club players I would see as James Regan, Bernard Burke, Donal Cooney and Darragh Burke (he's been exceptional in the last two games I've seen) The rest are mostly solid club players with very few very weak links. If they play to form I think they have a good chance of winning the All Ireland out.

Not sure is D Cooney much more than solid, I'd have Sherry and a fit Sean Skehill in that group ahead of him

Wouldn't amaze me if Sherry was considered as an option for county in a position Galway are light in

I'm not sure how fully fit Bernard was this year, was quiet in a lot of games

But very strong starting 15 overall for a club side

Utopia Parkway · 20-11-2018 1:00am

Of course it also means Galway will likely be without the Thomas' lads for the entire league campaign. Wasn't a big deal last year as Mellows had nobody invoved but Thomas' will probably have 5 or 6 lads in the Galway squad next year.

MfMan · 20-11-2018 1:33am

jr86 wrote: »

Ballyea are a cut above anything Thomas's have played

The Galway championship hasn't been the best standard over the past few years, summed up by the fact that no Galway winner has won their semi final since Portumna 5 years back

We shall revisit this again on March 17 methinks.

Diabhal Beag · 21-11-2018 10:05pm

Goes without saying obviously but delighted to hear last night that MD is sticking around for next season. Regardless of that first 60 minutes of the final we had some fantastic days out this year and we're definitely in the mix next year. It's been a real pleasure to follow these lads around the country over the last few Summers.

evolving tipperary · 21-11-2018 10:30pm

Some carry-on, wha?

'This report hasn't been made public yet, as it has been the subject of legal correspondence.

Croke Park have commissioned Mazars, the international Auditing and corporate finance company, to conduct a full audit of Galway GAA finances, and they have been working in Galway for some weeks now.'

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/1121/1012498-galway-pay-390k-owed-on-2015-all-ireland-final-tickets/

Happyilylost · 22-11-2018 12:51pm

evolving tipperary wrote:

Some carry-on, wha?

Nothing new in it.

Audioslaven · 22-11-2018 2:54pm

Has Padraic Joyce got the U20 gig?

MfMan · 22-11-2018 2:58pm

Audioslaven wrote: »

Has Padraic Joyce got the U20 gig?

Ya, no mention yet of selectors.

Utopia Parkway · 22-11-2018 8:37pm

I presume Donal Ó Fatharta is staying over the minor footballers.

Padraic Joyce to take charge of the U-20 footballers.

Brian Hanley the minor hurlers.

And Jeffrey Lynskey moves from the minors to the U-20 hurlers.

jr86 · 25-11-2018 4:33pm

Took a while to get going but Corofin's class showed in the second half.

Can't see them losing to Ulster winners and Spiddal have been so dogged so far

With St Thomas's and Oran-Maree both playing Ulster teams in the hurling could Galway have 4 clubs in All-Ireland finals? Would be amazing if it transpired

Frozen Veg · 30-11-2018 11:47am

Fairly scandalous that both the 2017 and 2018 u21 hurling championships are ongoing the moment with neither looking like they'll be finished this year.

jr86 · 30-11-2018 1:02pm

Frozen Veg wrote: »

Fairly scandalous that both the 2017 and 2018 u21 hurling championships are ongoing the moment with neither looking like they'll be finished this year.

Such a shame as there's some cracking matches this weekend which would be ideal for a Spring/Summer's day

Oranmore play Thomas's I see - two teams who are far better off with their senior members getting a good December rest. Does Fintan Burke really need this now after a long season, and a likelihood of being a Galway senior panelist next year

Utopia Parkway · 30-11-2018 4:01pm

MfMan wrote: »

Ya, no mention yet of selectors.

Apparently John Divilly and Liam Sammon are part of his backroom team.

aidan24326 · 02-12-2018 12:25pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Apparently John Divilly and Liam Sammon are part of his backroom team.

John Concannon has been mentioned aswell.

leestone · 02-12-2018 9:48pm

Has the hurling squad for next year being named yet?

Happyilylost · 02-12-2018 11:33pm

leestone wrote:

Has the hurling squad for next year being named yet?

MD has said the panel is opened ended till the end of February. A lot of players missing (St Thomas, Oranmore, injuries) a lot of the U21 panel from last year brought in for the moment.

Utopia Parkway · 03-12-2018 1:53am

Happyilylost wrote: »

MD has said the panel is opened ended till the end of February. A lot of players missing (St Thomas, Oranmore, injuries) a lot of the U21 panel from last year brought in for the moment.

The rumoured new additions to the panel so far are Fintan Burke (St Thomas'), Kevin Cooney (Sarsfields), Cianan Fahy (Ardrahan), Sean Bleahane (Ahascragh/Fohenagh, Patrick Foley (Clarinbridge), Ronan O'Meara (Portumna), Kevin Hussey (Turloughmore), Sean Kilduff (Clarinbridge) and Jarlath Mannion (Cappataggle).

jr86 · 03-12-2018 10:09am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

The rumoured new additions to the panel so far are Fintan Burke (St Thomas'), Kevin Cooney (Sarsfields), Cianan Fahy (Ardrahan), Sean Bleahane (Ahascragh/Fohenagh, Patrick Foley (Clarinbridge), Ronan O'Meara (Portumna), Kevin Hussey (Turloughmore), Sean Kilduff (Clarinbridge) and Jarlath Mannion (Cappataggle).

Yeah, heard the same myself

fearruanua · 11-12-2018 1:53pm

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Gaillimh Abú!

I says · 12-12-2018 5:20pm

Any word on meeting?

cosatron · 12-12-2018 5:29pm

I says wrote: »

Any word on meeting?

the money was only resting in my account mr chairman, was a phrase commonly used

grbear · 17-12-2018 3:49pm

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/galway-clubs-want-answers-after-damning-audit-892456.html

Grim stuff and makes the administrators look like cowboys. It makes sound like it could be theoretically easy enough for someone to trouser a few bob and get away with it. Emphasis on theoretical mind, I'm not saying anyone did something like that.

The impression I get from that report is that they could possibly have afforded to keep the Mountain South site if they desperately wanted to.

grbear · 17-12-2018 11:47pm

https://twitter.com/cormicaneoghan/status/1074753795861680135?s=19

This whole thread. Sweet Jesus.

"Mike Burke: 'Misuse of Galway GAA credit card was a serious abuse of Galway GAA finances'."

"Mike Burke: I want to make quite clear that many of the people in management were totally unaware of the problems and were kept in the dark."

"Mike Burke says for the first nine months of his term this year, there was no information forthcoming from the Galway GAA office with regard to financial mismanagement."

"'Good riddance to those who have done a disservice to Galway GAA'"

"One delegate poses the question is there a provision for money missing on the year’s accounts?

Treasurer Michael Burke confirms there is money missing, there was unauthorised bonus given and tickets unaccounted for. But he can’t put a figure on it "

"Galway GAA Treasurer Michael Burke states for his nine months, he couldn’t get any information from certain individuals in Pearse Stadium. And if they were a private business they would be in receivership #GAA #galwayGAA"

"Question posed as to where is the missing money in Galway GAA by delegates? Did the management committee ratify the bonus? Michael Burke states to draw own conclusions but he must safeguard himself. #GAA #galwayGAA"

grbear · 17-12-2018 11:48pm

Sorry, I also included tweets from here

https://twitter.com/peterswellman/status/1074756209025171456?s=19

big_drive · 18-12-2018 11:41am

Whats the bonus that is mentioned for? All Ireland win '17?

Frozen Veg · 18-12-2018 12:28pm

Disgraceful stuff.

Not surprising when those at the very top are ex politicians.

Diabhal Beag · 18-12-2018 12:46pm

Absolutely raging with that. We're rightfully a laughing stock now.

The fact they'll get away with these dodge as **** dealings is gutting.

Clubs around the county down on their knees and fundraising for any bit of money they can get and you have cowboys "mishandling" huge amounts of money.

It'll take somebody like Pat McDonagh to rock the boar here. Burke saying all the right things but they'll just deny anything negative coming their direction.

grbear · 18-12-2018 1:13pm

big_drive wrote: »

Whats the bonus that is mentioned for? All Ireland win '17?

Don't think so. The big issue appears to be that bonuses were paid to some officials but they weren't properly accounted for. Bonuses were being abused basically.

By all accounts Burke went as far as he could last night when it came to telling people where the problems were. He couldn't name names as he'd be waking up to a solicitors letter this morning if he did. By making this carry on public knowledge he has done more for Galway GAA in the last 12 months than most officials will do in their entire careers.

Just read this little tidbit this morning. " Pearse Stadium has neither a money safe nor a cash register"

How many league games this spring alone had attendances over 5,000 people with a lot of them paying cash? There had to have been north of €50,000 in cash at the Stadium a few times this spring and no proper care taken. If the money bag had a hole in it a few thousand could have just vanished/been lost.

grbear · 18-12-2018 1:17pm

Noel Treacy last night " For the past six months there has been a serious negative briefing of Galway GAA and it has done untold damage to our county".

Yeah, its the people tackling the abuse of County finances and talking about it that are the problem.

big_drive · 18-12-2018 1:37pm

grbear wrote: »

Don't think so. The big issue appears to be that bonuses were paid to some officials but they weren't properly accounted for. Bonuses were being abused basically.

By all accounts Burke went as far as he could last night when it came to telling people where the problems were. He couldn't name names as he'd be waking up to a solicitors letter this morning if he did. By making this carry on public knowledge he has done more for Galway GAA in the last 12 months than most officials will do in their entire careers.

Just read this little tidbit this morning. " Pearse Stadium has neither a money safe nor a cash register"

How many league games this spring alone had attendances over 5,000 people with a lot of them paying cash? There had to have been north of €50,000 in cash at the Stadium a few times this spring and no proper care taken. If the money bag had a hole in it a few thousand could have just vanished/been lost.

Thanks. Wasn't sure if they'd meant bonus to the like of physio, strength and conditioning coaches , etc on back of all ireland

Not sure why officials would be entitled to a bonus?

Utopia Parkway · 18-12-2018 2:03pm

Amongst the many other things how did they manage to make only €120K from two Ed Sheeran concerts when Cork made well over a million from three?

Seems those rumours afterwards that the promoter basically made eejits of them in the negotiations were true after all. Cork had consulted with Croke Park about the concert negotiations while Galway thought they could do it by themselves and ended up being taken for a ride.

grbear · 18-12-2018 2:30pm

John Fogarty from The Examiner really put the concert mess into context today. Galway GAA made less than €2 per head while Cork GAA made almost €12 per head.

If Galway had made just €4 per head they'd have recorded a surplus for the year even after nearly €500,000 of extraordinary expenses like writing off €100,000 bad debt and paying off the 2015 All-Ireland final tickets.

big_drive · 18-12-2018 2:32pm

grbear wrote: »

John Fogarty from The Examiner really put the concert mess into context today. Galway GAA made less than €2 per head while Cork GAA made almost €12 per head.

If Galway had made just €4 per head they'd have recorded a surplus for the year even after nearly €500,000 of extraordinary expenses like writing off €100,000 bad debt and paying off the 2015 All-Ireland final tickets.

unreal when put into context like that

Tommy Kelly · 18-12-2018 6:38pm

It's well know a certain man at the top was caught with 60,000 euro cash in the boot of his car a few years ago. The same cnut isn't even a Galway man.

padd b1975 · 18-12-2018 8:10pm

grbear wrote: »

Don't think so. The big issue appears to be that bonuses were paid to some officials but they weren't properly accounted for. Bonuses were being abused basically.

By all accounts Burke went as far as he could last night when it came to telling people where the problems were. He couldn't name names as he'd be waking up to a solicitors letter this morning if he did. By making this carry on public knowledge he has done more for Galway GAA in the last 12 months than most officials will do in their entire careers.

Just read this little tidbit this morning. " Pearse Stadium has neither a money safe nor a cash register"

How many league games this spring alone had attendances over 5,000 people with a lot of them paying cash? There had to have been north of €50,000 in cash at the Stadium a few times this spring and no proper care taken. If the money bag had a hole in it a few thousand could have just vanished/been lost.

Gets very windy out that way too...

BENDYBINN · 18-12-2018 8:19pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Amongst the many other things how did they manage to make only €120K from two Ed Sheeran concerts when Cork made well over a million from three?

Seems those rumours afterwards that the promoter basically made eejits of them in the negotiations were true after all. Cork had consulted with Croke Park about the concert negotiations while Galway thought they could do it by themselves and ended up being taken for a ride.

Made eejits of them,are you for real?
Must feel so bad havin been caught out...........who’s foolin who here?

testtech05 · 18-12-2018 8:27pm

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Made eejits of them,are you for real?
Must feel so bad havin been caught out...........who’s foolin who here?

I would have thought it more likely based on the rest of the information coming out that the lack of return from Ed Sheeran was more likely to be down to "errors" in the accounting than poor negotiating.

Happyilylost · 18-12-2018 8:53pm

Tommy Kelly wrote:

It's well know a certain man at the top was caught with 60,000 euro cash in the boot of his car a few years ago. The same cnut isn't even a Galway man.

He's under investigation by AGS so something might come of it. Rest is a joke known around for too long. If Mountain South didn't happen and the draconian levies weren't put on clubs this may never of come to light. Too many clubs under too much pressure finally started asking enough questions as to where the money was going. Once thread was pulled it quickly unravelled.

I says · 18-12-2018 11:28pm

Fcuking sticky fingered fcukers I hope a criminal investigation finds and charges the culprits.

grbear · 19-12-2018 1:47am

I'll just share a more positive summary of last nights events from someone who is a bit more optimistic than me.

"Look I know the headlines are awful but last night will end up having been a very positive night for Galway in the long run.

1. If the plates had kept spinning a little longer then this whole affair could have been swept under the rug and the same [ban worthy phrase] gits could stay milking Galway for years.

2. Theres lot of money in Galway GAA now. The basic figures are really solid. Debt is at a manageable level and once the proper procedures for managing gate receipts are put in place then I'd expect that number to rise next year.

3. Airing this publicly is great. It'll force the adoption of higher standards which will make it easier to get the likes of Medtronic, Boston, etc. to come on board as a partner/sponsor. Theres been whispers around the carry on of [name redacted] for years so they were naturally wary of getting caught up when things went sideways.

4. They could have probably kept Mountain South based on these accounts but I guess if they want to get to the Airport Goldmine* then they need to get any debt cleared as quickly as possible.

5. They seem to have good people in the right positions now. Would have been way easier for the likes of Burke to leave this unchecked. "

I hope they are right.
*Airport Goldmine is this persons idea that the GAA are looking to ditch Pearse Stadium and move to a stadium built on the airport site. Calls it a goldmine as the airport site would supposedly make it a lot easier to host concerts and the like. Presumably while making a respectable return. Its a well thought out argument but I cant see it ever happening.

spurshero · 19-12-2018 4:10am

I think we can be just glad that Burke won the vote to become treasurer or I’m not sure we would have been any of the wiser by now
. I gaurantee not one person will face charges even though it’s fairly common knowledge who was up to no good . Noel Tracey had some neck to blame the last 6 months for all the negativity . Anyway onwards and upwards hopefully

jr86 · 19-12-2018 9:39am

Does anyone know how relegation will work in Senior Football Championship next year? Will they get away with sending 3 teams down again? If they do it could get very interesting indeed. Wouldn't surprise me at all if a shock relegation happened.

conamara · 19-12-2018 11:00am

Two down and two up next season.

grbear · 19-12-2018 12:00pm

Are you sure it's not 3 down? 2 down 1 up would leave the championship with an odd number of teams.

Back to the scandal, Eoghan Cormican of the Examiner is continuing to do the best job of reporting on the story in a national paper.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/galway-gaa-credit-card-was-used-to-pay-for-personal-expenses-892962.html

conamara · 19-12-2018 12:06pm

Sorry - i meant two down and two up! Half asleep posting earlier! How the two up happens is still to be sorted, there was some talk of a play off between the Intermediate final losers and a "3rd from Bottom senior team"

https://connachttribune.ie/number-senior-clubs-cut-new-galway-group-format/

"From 2019 on, the number of senior clubs will remain at 18, with a ‘two-up, two-down’ promotion/relegation arrangement in place."

fearruanua · 19-12-2018 3:47pm

conamara wrote: »

Sorry - i meant two down and two up! Half asleep posting earlier! How the two up happens is still to be sorted, there was some talk of a play off between the Intermediate final losers and a "3rd from Bottom senior team"

https://connachttribune.ie/number-senior-clubs-cut-new-galway-group-format/

"From 2019 on, the number of senior clubs will remain at 18, with a ‘two-up, two-down’ promotion/relegation arrangement in place."

I was under the impression that they wanted 16 teams. 4 groups of 4 by the 2020 championship???? maybe i was wrong.
So with the two up arrangement you are promoted by just getting to an intermediate county final?? Would that not take away from the county final??

jr86 · 19-12-2018 4:54pm

Yeah that doesn't make a whole lot of sense...

18 teams in the championship for the future would mean lopsided groups every year

I was sure it was aimed at getting it down to 16 aswell

And yes it'll definitely take from the intermediate final. 2 up and 2 down, why not 1 up and 1 down

? I definitely think something is being lost in translation here

ready4liftoff · 24-12-2018 2:58pm

Can anyone from any Galway posters on this forum tell me who is Galway Bay FM's sport Darren Kelly? He is to take over as Clare FM's head of sport from January 2019, taking over from Derrick Lynch who has moved to the Clare Champion. Looking forward to see what he will bring to Clare FM as a Clare Gaa fan myself. Any info on him and his style of commentary will be greatly appreciated.

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