Rail review and consultation launched

marno21 wrote: »

Nonsense. Mallow-Tralee will not be closed, and you can quote me on that.

not nonsense at all, it has been up for closure before and i have no doubt will be again, so i won't quote you on it. once ballybroaphy, lj waterford, rosslare, sligo are all gone, they're will only be 1 other before they start on the intercity lines, and it won't be ennis athenry. wouldn't surprise me if that out lasted the lot, because (well, just because)

marno21 wrote: »

There is still no rail service connecting Swords, or the airport, and there is no proper city centre NETWORK, an isolated station serving most of the country and a highly overcapacity 2 track section in the heart of the city.

and that needs to be dealt with, but the government do not wish to do anything about it. no amount of closures will change that. the government simply don't wish to put up the money. i no more like it then the next person but like i said before you get what you vote for. you can call for others to lose their services all you like but they're will still be no DU or line to swords, or a plan to deal with the capacity issues.

marno21 wrote: »

Meanwhile we are highly subsidising 2 criminally underused lines, where a proper bus service would more than suffice.

for who. certainly not for the rail users. for those who want bus services they're are plenty existing all ready.

marno21 wrote: »

Tralee and Sligo require less subvention than the Cork line. There's frequently packed trains on the Mallow-Tralee line, what would be the logic in shutting that down?

Are you just completely anti line shutting or can you not see how ludicrous it is that there are rail lines that require €550 per passenger per journey subvention? There's lines closed with decades that would be less waste than that.

Are you denying that both Sligo and Tralee have been previously suggested for closure? Where do you think closures will stop? Every since CIE was established in 1945 it has been in a spiral of continuous retrenchment and look where the company is today.

marno21 wrote: »

Tralee and Sligo require less subvention than the Cork line. There's frequently packed trains on the Mallow-Tralee line, what would be the logic in shutting that down?

Are you just completely anti line shutting or can you not see how ludicrous it is that there are rail lines that require €550 per passenger per journey subvention? There's lines closed with decades that would be less waste than that.

Marno, I'm not sure if you are new to the party, but we are now in the zone where 3 particular lines that have been pushed for closure since the 1970s are down to two. Waterford - Rosslare is gone. IE/CIE have been proactive in this as recently as 2002. Ballybrophy - Limerick may get the chop soon and then it will be Waterford - Limerick Junction. Once all 3 routes are closed, the death knell for other routes will sound as Tralee, Sligo, Westport/Ballina and Rosslare have been mentioned by CIE before.

Irish railway history is littered with closures to improve the financial situation. But since the first big raft of closures in 1963, the financial situation keeps on deterioating and once again we are back where it all started.